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source audio c4
- Thread starter drewphishesp
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I just now figured out that it doesn't consistently like my gen1 Voodoo Labs Pedal Power 2plus. I removed a couple pedals and swapped power cables and now it seems all fine. If it doesn't stay this way, I'll just resort to the walwart.
You need a midi to usb host device.
I use a disaster area designs micro.ghost but I think the neuro hub works too.
BurningSkies
CRAZY BALDHEAD
- Feb 20, 2005
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I've had really good luck with the Truetone CS12 for all my pedals including digital ones. I do my best to have the digital pedals on their own taps, but you can get away with daisy chaining depending on the pedals and how they interact. It has plenty of power on tap for most pedals with healthy draw and as long as you don't exceed maximum draw it doesn't care how much you have on any one iso (something to do with the class D design).
Yep, you can use the Hub as a host for the C4 or or a micro.gHost works too. I have both. Currently using the Hub since I also have a Aftershock and that doesn't have full MIDI implementation.
The C4 just keeps impressing me more each time I use it.
I've been programming my midi controller and since everything on the C4 is midi mappable, I can control keys and harmonies on the fly. So I don't need multiple presets of the same sounds in different keys anymore.
I can also control lfo beat subdivisions on the fly for amazing dubstop wobble sounds. I figured out how to use tap tempo or expression to control the lfo rate that the subdivisions correspond to.
Amazing stuff!
I've been programming my midi controller and since everything on the C4 is midi mappable, I can control keys and harmonies on the fly. So I don't need multiple presets of the same sounds in different keys anymore.
I can also control lfo beat subdivisions on the fly for amazing dubstop wobble sounds. I figured out how to use tap tempo or expression to control the lfo rate that the subdivisions correspond to.
Amazing stuff!
I'm sitting around still using just an expression pedal to control my C4 and I can say the same
Constantly being impressed by what it does.
Constantly being impressed by what it does.
Had the exact same idea about the wobbles and lfo subdivisions! Should be so easy with momentary CC's sent with soleman!
Yeah it works great with an MC6. I imagine the soleman would also work well. Here's a clip of me using the subdivisions.
Do you mind sharing your settings: how you set an external aux switch to do that? Thanks! I have an MC6 as well.
It's a little tough, because it's a combination of programming the MC6 and setting up the midi mapping in the C4. But I'll try to explain the process. Also keep in mind that the C4 was only doing filter duty. I used an Iron Ether Subterranea as the synth tone going in. You could totally do it all within the C4 though.
C4 Patch setup:
I set up a 4 pole low-pass filter patch in the C4 to be controlled by LFO 2. I also set up expression as control source 1 for the lfo speed to let me use an expression pedal.
C4 mapping:
I went into the midi mapping and assigned midi values to lfo 2 multiply (cc94), Remote Tap Tempo (cc93), and to external control source 1 (cc92)
MC6 Programming
I set up my MC6 so that the expression pedal sends Midi cc100. This is the default expression input on the C4.
I have a bank set up on the MC6 to control subdivisions and tap control.
I set up buttons for x1 (cc94 = 0) x2 (cc94 = 1) x3 (cc94 = 2) and x4 (cc94 = 3)
I set up a midi command for tap tempo. I set it up so when using this it also sends midi to disable the expression control. It sends (cc93 = 0) and (cc92 = 0)
If I want to use the expression pedal again I have another command on the MC to enable it by sending (cc92 = 3)
Hope this makes sense!
I also want to thank you for this. I am very new to Midi but the C4 is making wanna dive in with these sorts of abilities!
I'm very grateful for the info shared about this stuff and MIDI in general. I think I'm starting to figure it out....but I think I may be missing some basic knowledge about MIDI.
It seems that if I want to be able to control the C4 with my MC6 Midi controller with expression pedal>DMC ghost.micro and also load and edit patches, ideally I'd be able to have both my midi controller and PC plugged into the C4 at the same time via the USB port on the back of the C4. (Right?)
As it stands now i have to keep swapping the Mini usb cables between the C4 and my ghost.micro and my computer when test out a patch with the expression pedal. (I can audition it with the PC connected...just cant test with MIDI controller and EP.) It's tedious to have to swap the mini usb cables on the back of the C4 frequently. Is there a way to avoid having to do this?
I've tried using the SA TRS cable to input 2 and really don't care for the iOS interface and have found that it doesn't seem to let the C4 respond to MIDI commands consistently when it's plugged in anyway. Plus, I can't see more than 6 patches.
How are other folks approaching testing out with different MIDI triggers (expression pedals, switches)? Thanks!
It seems that if I want to be able to control the C4 with my MC6 Midi controller with expression pedal>DMC ghost.micro and also load and edit patches, ideally I'd be able to have both my midi controller and PC plugged into the C4 at the same time via the USB port on the back of the C4. (Right?)
As it stands now i have to keep swapping the Mini usb cables between the C4 and my ghost.micro and my computer when test out a patch with the expression pedal. (I can audition it with the PC connected...just cant test with MIDI controller and EP.) It's tedious to have to swap the mini usb cables on the back of the C4 frequently. Is there a way to avoid having to do this?
I've tried using the SA TRS cable to input 2 and really don't care for the iOS interface and have found that it doesn't seem to let the C4 respond to MIDI commands consistently when it's plugged in anyway. Plus, I can't see more than 6 patches.
How are other folks approaching testing out with different MIDI triggers (expression pedals, switches)? Thanks!
BurningSkies
CRAZY BALDHEAD
- Feb 20, 2005
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I'm using the Neuro-Hub with gets fed from the 1/8" output on the C4. The Hub gets the 5-pin MIDI cables and I have a USB that remains attached to the C4 and coils under my board when not in use.
I've found that more recent versions of the desktop Neuro-app are a bit wonky and it flakes and crashes on about 65% of my saves whether with the C4 or the AS though.
You might try connecting everything through a USB Hub to save wear and tear on your C4. I have all my USB Midi pedals connected to an inexpensive USB 4 port hub that I connect to my computer running Neuro Desktop and other programs. It's much easier to replace the inexpensive hub than to have issues with the USB port on your pedal.
What hub are you using for this? Have you noticed any issues going this route?
I'm guessing the path is C4 to the USB Hub, USB hub out to MIDI device and/or computer?
I guess this might make it a little easier. https://www.amazon.com/YCS-Basics-B...le+mini+usb+cable&qid=1575934058&sr=8-12&th=1
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