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source audio c4

#882
Proton Lenny said:
You know I can't resist some Blade Runner Brass!
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I had that sound loaded on a full bank of my ES-5 for about a year (4 spots + one clean/bypass)...each patch had the Blade Runner sound then an assortment of things following it, Timeline delays, chorus and/or Dr. Scientist Atmosphere (reverbs). Then I could pick and choose for use in ambient fill portions of our set or breakdowns in songs.
 
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#883
Hello,

I have three questions, please:
- How does C4 handle long slides over several semitones on a fretless - will it be smooth, or quantized?
- Can you configure the expression pedal to control dry/wet ratio?
- Can a regular expression pedal be used, and is there any benefit in using the dual expression pedal?
 
#884
ecmjazz said:
Hello,

I have three questions, please:
- How does C4 handle long slides over several semitones on a fretless - will it be smooth, or quantized?
- Can you configure the expression pedal to control dry/wet ratio?
- Can a regular expression pedal be used, and is there any benefit in using the dual expression pedal?
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I'll leave the fretless thing to others to discuss, though I've played my fretless with mine here and there and I haven't noticed that it doesn't do anything that comes across as weird.

-You can configure the express to control wet/dry or nearly any other adjustable parameter.

- I use a Dunlop expression with mine, though I've used a cheapo-junk GC expression without a problem as well. I use the Hub expression in, though I could also use the one on my ES-5 and do it by MIDI.
 
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#888
ecmjazz said:
Thank you for replying! So, it seems like the dual expression pedal will not bring any benefit with C4 over a regular expresion pedal?

Hopefully someone replies on the fretless question as well.
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I think with pedals that do x/y you can pick and choose what your axis do. And IIRC those are available on the drop-down. You can also apply multiple parameters to a single expression. So if you want a filter that sweeps frequency but also volume swells, or changes resonance, you can do that. You can also adjust individually the amount of sweep you want in a parameter.

For instance I have one patch where the expression sweeps frequencies on two filters, but one is set to do 40 to 100 (being 40% to 100%) while the other is set to 30 to 80.
 
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#889
I am not familiar with pedals, which do x/y. Do they have an ability to press in two directions - toes-heel, and left-right? Is Source Audio Dual Expression of such kind, as the only feature I could find listed is that it has two outputs, instead of one, which I couldn't figure out how could be useful with C4. Apologies, if my question is too basic.
 
#890
ecmjazz said:
I am not familiar with pedals, which do x/y. Do they have an ability to press in two directions - toes-heel, and left-right? Is Source Audio Dual Expression of such kind, as the only feature I could find listed is that it has two outputs, instead of one, which I couldn't figure out how could be useful with C4. Apologies, if my question is too basic.
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SA Dual Expression Pedal only moves in one direction, but has multiple outputs.

The one bizarre example of what you're talking about (an expression pedal with two axes of motion to control two different things) is on an older Zoom multi-FX unit that I own. There might be other examples, I'm just not aware of them.
 
#891
OK, in that case is there any benefit in using the SA dual expression pedal with C4? I guess both outputs of the expression pedal would feed the same signal, and actually C4 seems to have only one control input. I am asking just because I read in the C4 manual, that it should be used with the dual pedal, but maybe that doesn't have a real benefit over a regular, single-output pedal?
 
#893
ecmjazz said:
OK, in that case is there any benefit in using the SA dual expression pedal with C4? I guess both outputs of the expression pedal would feed the same signal, and actually C4 seems to have only one control input. I am asking just because I read in the C4 manual, that it should be used with the dual pedal, but maybe that doesn't have a real benefit over a regular, single-output pedal?
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The One Series pedals (like the C4) do not have normal 1/4" inputs for expression. You can use the 1/8" TRRS connections, either directly from the SA DEP, or connect an expression pedal into the Hub and the Hub will convert the signal to 1/8" TRRS.
 
#894
ecmjazz said:
OK, in that case is there any benefit in using the SA dual expression pedal with C4? I guess both outputs of the expression pedal would feed the same signal, and actually C4 seems to have only one control input. I am asking just because I read in the C4 manual, that it should be used with the dual pedal, but maybe that doesn't have a real benefit over a regular, single-output pedal?
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I would think that it's probably not something to worry about. If you want to get crazy, get one of these and play with it.

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#895
I would simply like to understand why should I buy that pedal, as there are far cheaper options. As far as I understand, their output is different than normal ones - is that because it is 1/8" vs. 1/4" on other expression pedals, or is it because it is TRRS vs TRS on other expression pedals? In both cases could I use a 1/8" to 1/4" adapter, ot TRRS to TRS adapter, as a cheaper alternative to buying the SA dual pedal, or the neuro hub?
 
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ecmjazz said:
I would simply like to understand why should I buy that pedal, as there are far cheaper options. As far as I understand, their output is different than normal ones - is that because it is 1/8" vs. 1/4" on other expression pedals, or is it because it is TRRS vs TRS on other expression pedals? In both cases could I use a 1/8" to 1/4" adapter, ot TRRS to TRS adapter, as a cheaper alternative to buying the SA dual pedal, or the neuro hub?
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Yes, yes, and not sure but I think that's been discussed before
 
#897
ecmjazz said:
I would simply like to understand why should I buy that pedal, as there are far cheaper options. As far as I understand, their output is different than normal ones - is that because it is 1/8" vs. 1/4" on other expression pedals, or is it because it is TRRS vs TRS on other expression pedals? In both cases could I use a 1/8" to 1/4" adapter, ot TRRS to TRS adapter, as a cheaper alternative to buying the SA dual pedal, or the neuro hub?
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If you're looking for standard expression, I don't see a need for that exact pedal. It does have two outputs to control multiple pedals, but has the added bonus of one of them also working as a 'sensor output' with certain specific SA pedals:

SENSOR OUTPUT: Connect to the SENSOR INPUT on Soundblox, Soundblox 2, Soundblox Pro, and Hot Hand effects pedals. Connect using the included 4- conductor 3.5mm cable.

If you're not using any of those related pedals...why not go with a standard pedal.
 
#898
ecmjazz said:
I would simply like to understand why should I buy that pedal, as there are far cheaper options. As far as I understand, their output is different than normal ones - is that because it is 1/8" vs. 1/4" on other expression pedals, or is it because it is TRRS vs TRS on other expression pedals? In both cases could I use a 1/8" to 1/4" adapter, ot TRRS to TRS adapter, as a cheaper alternative to buying the SA dual pedal, or the neuro hub?
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We need to give you a clear answer on this. Working on it!
 
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ecmjazz said:
I would simply like to understand why should I buy that pedal, as there are far cheaper options. As far as I understand, their output is different than normal ones - is that because it is 1/8" vs. 1/4" on other expression pedals, or is it because it is TRRS vs TRS on other expression pedals? In both cases could I use a 1/8" to 1/4" adapter, ot TRRS to TRS adapter, as a cheaper alternative to buying the SA dual pedal, or the neuro hub?
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I don’t think there is a particular functional benefit for the SA pedal if you are just using it for the C4 apart from it just being a really solidly built and well-thought out pedal that may serve cool outside functions for you in the future. Since the C4 already has internal settings to allow you to customize adjustment of multiple parameters via one expression signal the second one on the SA wouldn’t be useful (and many MIDI controllers also allow this routing functionality). The dual-expression is useful when used with non-MIDI/analog expression inputs so that you can control multiple pedals at the same time without an additional device like an Expressionator to route the expression signal
 

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