Source Audio OFD

[adamaarts]

Nice tone !! And I really like the T40 style. Never had the opportunity to try one but I would like.
What settings did you use on your OFD ?

I finally had the opportunity to test mine with my band and I am very pleased with the result. I used it with my P Bass strung with Chromes and played with pick and fingers.
I plugged my OFD just after my VT Bass (I tried before and found the drives not so nice when passed through the VT Bass) and used one TubeDrive Low Gain setting and one Big PI setting. The results were really pleasant in the mix. The Big PI works really well : not harsh, present, and not lost in the mix.
I find the blend on this pedal very powerful : the dry and the wet tone mix very well. It doesn't sound artificial at all. Low end seems untouched and the eq is really well set.

My only complaint would be that it's not the most easy pedal to tweak on the fly, especially the eq. But once it's well set, it's really nice

I never paid attention when I was dialing it in, so I don't remember exactly. But I know it was tube drive and pretty high gain since the T-40 was set to a low output. The EQ I never touched so it had to be the same as my overdrive scene setting, which I don't remember off hand.

I also bumped a little EQ in the 2/2.1k area for more attack and some dirty compression both in mixing stage.

The Peavey was set to single coil, bridge pickup only, and tone fully up. That helped with the attack/snarl as well.

 

[ticol07]

I never paid attention when I was dialing it in, so I don't remember exactly. But I know it was tube drive and pretty high gain since the T-40 was set to a low output. The EQ I never touched so it had to be the same as my overdrive scene setting, which I don't remember off hand.

I also bumped a little EQ in the 2/2.1k area for more attack and some dirty compression both in mixing stage.

Thanks for your reply.
From what I heard, I guessed it was the Tubedrive. So I was right

I use it but with a lower gain, just to give some more gritty presence to the high mids, and it works very well.

Source Audio should create a multi effect in the spirit of the ms-60b or zoom B3 with the ofd drive models and it would be the perfect overdrive / fuzz machine

 

[ticol07]

Hello,

I have some other questions regarding the OFD, especially concerning the Hub use. I don't own it and was wondering how it worked :

1- What is needed to use the Hub on a pedal board ? Only on the Hub or another pedal is needed to scroll between the different stored presets ? If it's the case, which pedal is needed ?

2- Once a preset is activated, how do the OFD work ? Are there still 2 different settings available with the OFD, and is it possible to activate them or bypass them by using the OFD footswitches or it's only by using the Hub that I can do things?

Sorry for my misunderstanding. I am used to classic multi effects but not this new one.

What I would like is to have the ability to change the 2 settings of the OFD and then have the possibility to choose between the 2 of them or bypass.
Hope my questions are clear

This pedal is so nice that it's a bit frustrating to use only 2 presets ! But I'd like to keep my pedal board simple.

 

[adamaarts]

Hello,

I have some other questions regarding the OFD, especially concerning the Hub use. I don't own it and was wondering how it worked :

1- What is needed to use the Hub on a pedal board ? Only on the Hub or another pedal is needed to scroll between the different stored presets ? If it's the case, which pedal is needed ?

2- Once a preset is activated, how do the OFD work ? Are there still 2 different settings available with the OFD, and is it possible to activate them or bypass them by using the OFD footswitches or it's only by using the Hub that I can do things?

Sorry for my misunderstanding. I am used to classic multi effects but not this new one.

What I would like is to have the ability to change the 2 settings of the OFD and then have the possibility to choose between the 2 of them or bypass.
Hope my questions are clear

This pedal is so nice that it's a bit frustrating to use only 2 presets ! But I'd like to keep my pedal board simple.

1. You'll need a midi controller of some sort. One control Gecko and Midi Mouse are two popular choices. This will let you scroll between the scenes you create (presets)

2. When you save a scene to the Hub it will not affect the 2 saved presets on your OFD. So you can have 1 preset as overdrive, one as a fuzz, and have them always available no matter what scene you are one. To revert to these you'd click the footswitch to disable the scene effect, the click which preset footswitch you'd like. Then if you change the scene again it automatically goes back to the scene setting.

 

[ticol07]

Thanks.

So if I understand well :
- the hub is a storage unit. Saving a scene doesn't change what is stored in the OFD itself.
- the midi controller is there to scroll between stored settings
- if a scene is activated, it becomes the active setting for the OFD, no matter what is stored in the OFD
- if the midi controller is shut, the OFD is the same as before, with its 2 settings.

Interesting !

And it's easy to use that whole system by itself or does a computer is needed to storage new presets and eventually change their orders ?

 

[FretNoMore]

The default behaviour is that a recalled scene from the hub does not change the presets in the pedal, which is both good and bad depending on what you like. The drawback is the scene is gone once you step on a switch, which can be a problem if you want to use the setting for only parts of a song, like a regular bypass switch. You'd have to have a second "empty" scene you can scroll back and forth to to simulate a bypass switch.

There is however a setting in the newer hub version that lets you save the scene to the pedal, overwriting the pedal's preset. I use it this way, it makes the pedal behave more like a regular stomp box.

 

[adamaarts]

Thanks.

So if I understand well :
- the hub is a storage unit. Saving a scene doesn't change what is stored in the OFD itself.
- the midi controller is there to scroll between stored settings
- if a scene is activated, it becomes the active setting for the OFD, no matter what is stored in the OFD
- if the midi controller is shut, the OFD is the same as before, with its 2 settings.

Interesting !

And it's easy to use that whole system by itself or does a computer is needed to storage new presets and eventually change their orders ?

You have it all right.

It's easy to use by itself. When you adjust a preset that you want to save as a scene and not on the pedal, you just click and hold save on the Hub and it will assign it to the last midi PC number selected.

So you would select preset 10 on your midi controller, engage a preset on the OFD (or leave it off for a bypass scene) , adjust to a sound you like, press and hold save on the Hub. Now every time you select midi PC 10 it will select that scene you just made.

If/when you add more source audio pedals it's just as easy. You just adjust 2 pedals after selecting a midi scene, then save on the Hub as you would with just 1 pedal. And it will now save all setting on all pedals hooked up to the hub.

 

[ticol07]

It sounds great and simple !
Just need some money and I'll be ready

 

[quincy_j_clomo]

It sounds great and simple !
Just need some money and I'll be ready

my thoughts exactly! I originally bought the OFD thinking "this will be the last OD pedal I'll ever need." But then I played around w/ it and decided that I HAD to have access to more than two presets, and I HAD to be able to morph between them w/ the expression pedal. now my $140 pedal is turning into a $300-$400 monster. Still totally worth it, though!

 

[ticol07]

my thoughts exactly! I originally bought the OFD thinking "this will be the last OD pedal I'll ever need." But then I played around w/ it and decided that I HAD to have access to more than two presets, and I HAD to be able to morph between them w/ the expression pedal. now my $140 pedal is turning into a $300-$400 monster. Still totally worth it, though!

Yes, I imagine how nice it can be. However the total price is not cheap and it adds 2 more elements to the pedal board.
Why are we always wanting more ?

 

[Adamixoye]

The Hub, HH3, 3rd party MIDI Controller, etc., all become a lot more cost-effective if you have more than one SA pedal. For just one SA pedal, it is a significant investment. For 2+, it just makes sense.

 

[FretNoMore]

Given that each SA pedal is really a whole bunch of effects packed into one box I think they are great value, even when adding the Hub and a MIDI controller (which I think are must-haves to really get full use of the pedals).

 

[nshuman]

The Hub, HH3, 3rd party MIDI Controller, etc., all become a lot more cost-effective if you have more than one SA pedal. For just one SA pedal, it is a significant investment. For 2+, it just makes sense.

Given that each SA pedal is really a whole bunch of effects packed into one box I think they are great value, even when adding the Hub and a MIDI controller (which I think are must-haves to really get full use of the pedals).

Indeed.

First off, the MIDI controller should not even be factored in because it does not come with any pedal, even very expensive ones. Big Box Strymons, Eventide Factors, H9s, will still need some sort of MIDI controller for program changes, especially to control multiple units.

Second, at the price of the hub, even for one pedal, you are still way under the price of a similar pedal with now MIDI capability.

Third, the HH3 should not even be considered in pricing here, it's the same as an expression pedal, you'd have to buy it no matter what exp capable you buy.

 

[Adamixoye]

Indeed.

First off, the MIDI controller should not even be factored in because it does not come with any pedal, even very expensive ones. Big Box Strymons, Eventide Factors, H9s, will still need some sort of MIDI controller for program changes, especially to control multiple units.

Second, at the price of the hub, even for one pedal, you are still way under the price of a similar pedal with now MIDI capability.

Third, the HH3 should not even be considered in pricing here, it's the same as an expression pedal, you'd have to buy it no matter what exp capable you buy.

I totally agree with the second and third points (even though I mentioned the HH3, that was sort of in response to the flow of the conversation, but you're right, it's just like any other expression pedal in the context of this conversation).

I disagree somewhat with the first because adding a MIDI controller to those units does not increase the number of presets you have available, it only makes preset switching easier. You literally don't need them in the same way you do with a Hub-centric SA system. In a Factor series pedal you still can access all 100 presets with just the pedal itself, it's just a pain. But with a SB2 pedal, you only have 2 presets period unless you add a Hub and a MIDI controller (or keep your Hub connected to a computer with USB).

 

[quincy_j_clomo]

to be clear, i wasn't exactly complaining. $140 for the OFD alone is well worth it. I've seen many boutiquey single-channel OD's that cost as much or more and only have one good sound, not to mention features like the variable clean or low-passed clean blend, 3-band eq, noise gate, and a second channel capable of a completely different but equally awesome sound. add multiple presets and the ability to morph between drive settings w/ an expression pedal (or control any other parameter for that matter) and $350 sounds pretty reasonable if you can scrape it together. I can joke all I want about the pain of funding it, but the end result is phenomenal.

 

[nshuman]

I totally agree with the second and third points (even though I mentioned the HH3, that was sort of in response to the flow of the conversation, but you're right, it's just like any other expression pedal in the context of this conversation).

I disagree somewhat with the first because adding a MIDI controller to those units does not increase the number of presets you have available, it only makes preset switching easier. You literally don't need them in the same way you do with a Hub-centric SA system. In a Factor series pedal you still can access all 100 presets with just the pedal itself, it's just a pain. But with a SB2 pedal, you only have 2 presets period unless you add a Hub and a MIDI controller (or keep your Hub connected to a computer with USB).

For #1 I emant if you compare the price. I.e. SB2+hub is not crazy when you consider the price of a Factor pedal. But, I agree that it becomes super cheap when you consider multiple SB2 pedals compared to 1.

 

[ticol07]

To be clear, the total price seems fair to me. It's less expensive than buying the same amount of separate pedals.
My only problem is that every time I think I'm done and have the good amount of effects, a little voice is always singing to me "come on, you could have more"
And in this specific case it would a lot more effects in a not so big package...

 

[nshuman]

Hey guys, I am not thinking you guys are unreasonable and I understood what you meant. I was just thinking out loud.

 

[Adamixoye]

For #1 I emant if you compare the price. I.e. SB2+hub is not crazy when you consider the price of a Factor pedal. But, I agree that it becomes super cheap when you consider multiple SB2 pedals compared to 1.

I just thought you were saying that you would have to get a MIDI controller anyway for any of those big boxes, which really isn't true. SB2 + Hub + MIDI controller puts you in the range of just a Factor pedal (undiscounted it's $169 + $99 + maybe $109 for a MIDI mouse = $367 vs. $400-500 for the Factors), but it is still cheaper. And it's better if you can get a MIDI controller for the big ones as well.

 

[nshuman]

I just thought you were saying that you would have to get a MIDI controller anyway for any of those big boxes, which really isn't true. SB2 + Hub + MIDI controller puts you in the range of just a Factor pedal (undiscounted it's $169 + $99 + maybe $109 for a MIDI mouse = $367 vs. $400-500 for the Factors), but it is still cheaper. And it's better if you can get a MIDI controller for the big ones as well.

AH, ok, sorry, misunderstood your reply.

Yes, you are absolutely right. I meant more if you needed to do multi pedal scene changes and anything complex beyond preset changes.

In the end, I think that they are pretty awesome deal, and so are those more expensive pedals