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Source Audio OFD
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Easily creating, capturing and sharing scenes = priceless
Controlling it all with a nice Reflex would be even more priceless
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Controlling it all with a nice Reflex would be even more priceless
rsmith601
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I am on it!!!Controlling it all with a nice Reflex would be even more priceless
That's the problem when you come out with a revolutionary product, a bunch of people end up wanting to buy it
Quick initial review:
After quite a saga of trying to find a Canadian Source Audio dealer that was aware of its existence (one after another said it didn't exist), I ordered a Bass OFD from bassefx.com, which shipped really fast and got to Montreal with no extra customs fees or issues. I just messed around with it for 30 minutes and was very impressed. The flavours of the drives are all different enough to be meaningful, and the two options for clean blend are really great on my 5-string which otherwise gets farty on the low A (when it's grindy higher up).
I have a lot to figure out with this pedal, but I have two initial observations if there's going to be a software revision:
1. Given that it's possible to morph between presets, it would be great if you could morph between parameters within a preset, or at least per preset choose which parameter is controlled with the expression pedal. I don't have my (also just arrived) Reflex hooked up, but this could be really wild.
2. The clean blend knob could be rebalanced in a software update. There's a very small run of "overdriven with some clean mixed in" and a big run of "clean with some overdrive on top". So there's actually a relatively small sweep of the knob that is useful to me, apart from "only low end" which is a nice tone-rolled off simulation. Presets make up for this a bit since once you're set, you're set, at least theoretically.
3. I can immediately also see the usefulness of the neuro and app. . . .
Finally, a question for owners: has anyone gotten a good brassmeister sound? I love my B:assmaster but I would also love to copy it with this pedal. I tried the Octavia setting but at least initially all I got was a "nasally Octavia" when I boosted the mids.
After quite a saga of trying to find a Canadian Source Audio dealer that was aware of its existence (one after another said it didn't exist), I ordered a Bass OFD from bassefx.com, which shipped really fast and got to Montreal with no extra customs fees or issues. I just messed around with it for 30 minutes and was very impressed. The flavours of the drives are all different enough to be meaningful, and the two options for clean blend are really great on my 5-string which otherwise gets farty on the low A (when it's grindy higher up).
I have a lot to figure out with this pedal, but I have two initial observations if there's going to be a software revision:
1. Given that it's possible to morph between presets, it would be great if you could morph between parameters within a preset, or at least per preset choose which parameter is controlled with the expression pedal. I don't have my (also just arrived) Reflex hooked up, but this could be really wild.
2. The clean blend knob could be rebalanced in a software update. There's a very small run of "overdriven with some clean mixed in" and a big run of "clean with some overdrive on top". So there's actually a relatively small sweep of the knob that is useful to me, apart from "only low end" which is a nice tone-rolled off simulation. Presets make up for this a bit since once you're set, you're set, at least theoretically.
3. I can immediately also see the usefulness of the neuro and app. . . .
Finally, a question for owners: has anyone gotten a good brassmeister sound? I love my B:assmaster but I would also love to copy it with this pedal. I tried the Octavia setting but at least initially all I got was a "nasally Octavia" when I boosted the mids.
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Yes, this will be in the One Series distortion family, which is essentially the OFD on steroids, but in a simpler package. In those units you can cascade two distortion stages and have the 5 band parametric EQ either post, pre, or both. The dry signal can also be filtered.
Wait -- I'm confused. Will all of the sounds and parameters for the OFD be available in the One Series Bass distortion pedal? If so, what's the advantage of the OFD over the bass distortion?
Also, perhaps relatedly, two questions about the Neuro hub:
1. Is there currently a way to have it send MIDI program change messages with a preset that are different than the program change messages it receives, and perhaps on another channel?
2. It's unclear from the software manuals, although the demo video seems to suggest it can be done: is it possible to program a scene in which a pedal is bypassed, and then go to a scene in which a pedal is not bypassed so that a pedal is turned on and off with a scene?
Thanks!
Also, perhaps relatedly, two questions about the Neuro hub:
1. Is there currently a way to have it send MIDI program change messages with a preset that are different than the program change messages it receives, and perhaps on another channel?
2. It's unclear from the software manuals, although the demo video seems to suggest it can be done: is it possible to program a scene in which a pedal is bypassed, and then go to a scene in which a pedal is not bypassed so that a pedal is turned on and off with a scene?
Thanks!
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In addition to this, you can put two distortion stages in parallel, mixing them at the output... along with a wet/dry mix.
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For this question, my understanding would be that the advantages of the OFD would be 2 presets available via footswitch, and all the knobs and parameters available on the face of the pedal rather than through the app. But overall it would seem that the Aftershock has more options and features.
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The hub takes in a program change message (with assignable channel) and then sends out the appropriate data to any connected Source Audio pedals, each of which can potentially have a different channel as well.
Yes, the hub currently is capable of doing this. It not only recalls presets and parameter values, but it can also engage and bypass pedals as well. Note that you can individually assign each pedal to be either true bypass or buffered bypass.
Thanks -- on #1, my question is about non-source audio pedals. I'd like to control an Eventide H9 and a Hub from the same MIDI Mouse. Am I right in thinking there's no way for the hub to send a DIFFERENT program change to the Eventide than what it receives?
Example: I send program #5 to the hub to change my SA pedalson channel 2. But I don't want it to do anything to the H9, so no program change is sent there. Later I send program change #6 to the hub on channel to. It switches SA pedals, but also sends program change #3 on channel 3 to the H9.
If this is impossible I can do MIDI mappings with the H9, it's just a little more work.
Also, since I still have time to return to the OFD, I would really like to know if it will have the software capabilities of the Aftershock. If I get the hub and run it all from a MIDI pedal, the extra knobs and footswitches don't matter so much, but the extra software capability would really matter.
Example: I send program #5 to the hub to change my SA pedalson channel 2. But I don't want it to do anything to the H9, so no program change is sent there. Later I send program change #6 to the hub on channel to. It switches SA pedals, but also sends program change #3 on channel 3 to the H9.
If this is impossible I can do MIDI mappings with the H9, it's just a little more work.
Also, since I still have time to return to the OFD, I would really like to know if it will have the software capabilities of the Aftershock. If I get the hub and run it all from a MIDI pedal, the extra knobs and footswitches don't matter so much, but the extra software capability would really matter.
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Yes! Take my money!!! In a smaller footprint pedal to boot. I'm very excited to get an Aftershock!!!
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I actually read all of this thread today, got a ton of info, bookmarks,etc... I'm supposed to get my OFD the end of this week, I'm excited but also a little nervous as I made a vow not to buy pedals for awhile and after reading through this I have a feeling that ill probably end up getting the Hub and midi mouse...
So a few questions for anyone who might still be watching this thread,
1. I know this pedal can do low gain, but does it also do touch responsive grind??
2. If I only wanted 4 different tones out of the OFD would I be better off just buying a 2nd one instead of the hub/midi setup?? I'm happy with having just 2 sounds outta my orbital and manta, with the OFD I envision 4 distinct tones so maybe the Hub would be too much for my needs??!!
Any replies are appreciated...
So a few questions for anyone who might still be watching this thread,
1. I know this pedal can do low gain, but does it also do touch responsive grind??
2. If I only wanted 4 different tones out of the OFD would I be better off just buying a 2nd one instead of the hub/midi setup?? I'm happy with having just 2 sounds outta my orbital and manta, with the OFD I envision 4 distinct tones so maybe the Hub would be too much for my needs??!!
Any replies are appreciated...
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I opted for the hub very quickly after getting the Manta and OFD. There are just too many options to not have the ability to save many many presets.
You can find the Hub used here and on Reverb for pretty cheap, with the cost of a MIDI mouse you're in the same ballpark as getting a second OFD anyway, so may as well get the better option.
LOL, im just afraid of another rabbit hole I guess.... In your opinion does the OFD do light breakup when digging in, I'm hoping to retire my tube pedals....
Edit: Doesn't matter, ill find out hopefully by end of the week....
Maybe I'm not getting this hub/midi concept, ill just have to read about it somewhere here...
Edit: Doesn't matter, ill find out hopefully by end of the week....
Maybe I'm not getting this hub/midi concept, ill just have to read about it somewhere here...
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+1 to the above, if you already have other SA pedals.
Also, I've had the MIDI mouse since shortly after it first came out--that's over 20 years ago--and it is one pedal for which I am continually finding new uses. It was brilliant it its design and I think it's still in version 1.
Edit: JohnK has a thread demonstrating low grind on the OFD. And that's one way I use it, too.
Also, I've had the MIDI mouse since shortly after it first came out--that's over 20 years ago--and it is one pedal for which I am continually finding new uses. It was brilliant it its design and I think it's still in version 1.
Edit: JohnK has a thread demonstrating low grind on the OFD. And that's one way I use it, too.
Since I've used my OFD for recording purposes, I wanted to share my band's latest song in order to give a flavor of the pedal in a final mixed and mastered track. I've used the TS9000 dirt to get that slight grit and to my ears it really sounds... warm and analog. The engineer/producer was reticent at first (when he saw me plug the OFD) but he finally used the wet (TS9000) track in the end and everyone was happy with the result. You can hear the bass kind of soloed with the drums at 1:32. The bass is a Squier 50's Classic Vibe Precision with a Joe Barden 50's P-Style Pickup.
