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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

So, after seeing the Aftershock video SA posted yesterday I have to say that thing is begging for a DI version with cabinet simulation on the DI output. Lacking those features I would still use the aftershock instead of my ValveDrive.

Now, during rehearsal yesterday I found myself in a kind of messy situation where I needed to adjust the HH sensitivity to control the Manta and ended up having to borrow the mac we use for samples to connect to the HUB by USB and make the change. I started to think that if I wanted to do that live I would not be able to. So I went into the manual and, maybe I am just that dumb, but I could not find a way tho make that adjustment in the pedal. Is there a way to do that?
Yes you are right, we actually just got some new microphones to mic an Amp properly, most of that previous video was direct signal and it's not what it's suppose to sound like. We'll post a new Aftershock video very soon... stay tuned!
 
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I have a question about the Lunar Phaser. I'm currently using one preset on my Manta to get a really slow sine LFO (soundcloud below), and while it sounds awesome I would really love to have two different envelope sounds on tap. My question is: can the Lunar Phaser replicate this sound? If yes I'm 100% buying it when it comes out.

0:00 is just the Phaser. 0:16 adds the TC Corona Chorus.
Full chain is MXR Bass Compressor -> Wren & Cuff Phat Phuk B -> Source Audio Manta -> (TC Corona Chorus) -> Darkglass B7K

Yes the Lunar can make this type of sound. While there are 3 very distinct Phaser types on the top Level right on the pedal, you will be able to access many more by plugging it to your phone, tabled or computer. Simple interface on the hardware and a sea of flexibility under the hood : )
 
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Okay, so I've had a lot of problems with these recent updates, but ultimately nothing was broken so as to be unfixable. Here's a quick list of the problems I encountered (and what the problem/solution was):

(1) Manta went nuts/seemed bricked during a firmware update (firmware recovery process worked)
(2) Firmware recovery of Manta never said it was successful, even though it was (not sure if software bug or hardware issue---ultimately irrelevant at this point)
(3) Hub Manager not recognizing Hub scenes (solved by power cycling the Hub; still having some Hub Manager issues, but a Hub power cycle usually works)
(4) Manta and OFD not responding to Hub Manager and 3rd Party MIDI commands (solved once I understood the new MIDI options present within the Hub Manager and firmware)

I'm recounting all of that to provide context for the following: there are a lot of explanations for what I am about to say. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing, but there's a chance I'm wrong.

Having said that, my Manta does not seem to be saving presets to Footswitch #2. I engage Preset #2 with the footswitch, adjust knobs, and try to hold the footswitch to save it, and when I let go of the footswitch, it goes into bypass. When I engage it again, it has not been properly saved. When I go through the exact same process on my Bass OFD, it works. Any ideas what is going on here?
 
My Zoom/Source Audio (SA)/Disaster Area (DA) pedalboard is *finally* done.

Audio chain:
TC Polytune 2 Mini -> Zoom MS-60B -> SA OFD -> SA Manta -> SA Orbital -> Zoom MS-70CDR -> MXR M81 Bass Preamp

Power supply is the Mooer Micro Power

MIDI and expression control:

Code:
        Dunlop Volume(X) -----.
        SA Hot Hand 3 -----.  |
                           V. V
DA DMC-3XL -> DA gHOST -> SA Hub -> SA pedals
     ^            |
     |            '------> USB Hub -> Zoom pedals
DA DMT-1


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My Zoom / Source Audio (SA) / Disaster Area (DA) pedalboard is *finally* done.

Audio chain:
TC Polytune 2 Mini -> Zoom MS-60B -> SA OFD -> SA Manta -> SA Orbital -> Zoom MS-70CDR -> MXR M81 Bass Preamp

Power supply is the Mooer Micro Power

MIDI and expression control:

Code:
        Dunlop Volume(X) -----.
        SA Hot Hand 3 -----.  |
                           V. V
DA DMC-3XL -> DA gHOST -> SA Hub -> SA pedals
     ^            |
     |            '------> USB Hub -> Zoom pedals
DA DMT-1


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What are your thoughts on the DMC3XL? I am still on the fence about mine.
 
What are your thoughts on the DMC3XL? I am still on the fence about mine.
It works ... but, a bit fiddly to use and program, and I would really like a display that could show named presets. The switches have different functions in different modes, something I have a hard time remembering. They also have different functions for momentary press and long-press, and I wish the time was longer for the long-press since I often get that intead of the momentary function. So, could be more use friendly, but has lots of functionality with a small foot print.
 
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It works ... but, a bit fiddly to use and program, and I would really like a display that could show named presets. The switches have different functions in different modes, something I have a hard time remembering. They also have different functions for momentary press and long-press, and I wish the time was longer for the long-press since I often get that intead of the momentary function. So, could be more use friendly, but has lots of functionality with a small foot print.
Exactly what I have been frustrated with. I think I will keep the OneControl for the H9 when I get the Solemate.
 
My Zoom/Source Audio (SA)/Disaster Area (DA) pedalboard is *finally* done.

Audio chain:
TC Polytune 2 Mini -> Zoom MS-60B -> SA OFD -> SA Manta -> SA Orbital -> Zoom MS-70CDR -> MXR M81 Bass Preamp

Power supply is the Mooer Micro Power

MIDI and expression control:

Code:
        Dunlop Volume(X) -----.
        SA Hot Hand 3 -----.  |
                           V. V
DA DMC-3XL -> DA gHOST -> SA Hub -> SA pedals
     ^            |
     |            '------> USB Hub -> Zoom pedals
DA DMT-1


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What are your thoughts on the DMC3XL? I am still on the fence about mine.

It works ... but, a bit fiddly to use and program, and I would really like a display that could show named presets. The switches have different functions in different modes, something I have a hard time remembering. They also have different functions for momentary press and long-press, and I wish the time was longer for the long-press since I often get that intead of the momentary function. So, could be more use friendly, but has lots of functionality with a small foot print.

Exactly what I have been frustrated with. I think I will keep the OneControl for the H9 when I get the Solemate.

Is the DMC-3XL programmable? I thought it mostly did PC up and down, what sort of other functions do you guys use it for?
 
Alright, can someone with a Manta running firmware v8 do me a favor and try to save a preset to preset #2 by holding down FS #2? And, if that works, put preset #1 into tap tempo mode and try to save a new preset to preset #2? Thanks.
 
Is the DMC-3XL programmable? I thought it mostly did PC up and down, what sort of other functions do you guys use it for?

It has a few options but not many man. Honestly, I find it aggravating that it doe snot navigate settings before enabling them. I asked hem about it for the H9 and they said it is a flaw in the H9 even though I can assign messages for incrementing and decrementing the programs. It's missing a few features. I think it's probably better for strymon gear.
 
Wow, sweet setup there!

What do you use on the cdr? Any soundclips?
No clips, I'll see what I can do next weekend. I don't really use the board yet :) but I think the CDR will be good for more or less crazy delays for synth and ambient noises, and maybe a touch of delay or reverb for more "normal" sounds. This board is at the moment for exploring and having fun at home, I doubt it will see a gig with my current band.
 
No clips, I'll see what I can do next weekend. I don't really use the board yet :) but I think the CDR will be good for more or less crazy delays for synth and ambient noises, and maybe a touch of delay or reverb for more "normal" sounds. This board is at the moment for exploring and having fun at home, I doubt it will see a gig with my current band.
I see... was hoping you could give me some ideas :P I couldn't really find much use for the delays on my MS60B which is why I downsized my MIDI controller last week.
 
Is the DMC-3XL programmable? I thought it mostly did PC up and down, what sort of other functions do you guys use it for?
It has some functions specific to certain Strymon, Eventide, Line6 for instance (looper start, stop etc) but in my case I use program change, and favourite program via the external tap tempo switch.

It can do program changes for three devices separately and with the external gHOST controller for the Zooms that means I have A=MS-60B, B=M-70CDR, C=SA Hub. You can do program changes separately in A,B and C modes, or you can program combinations of A/B/C in a program mode P where all units change programs simultaneously. I think that is quite powerful in how you can organize patches in each unit and then (re)use them in one or more program combinations.
 
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Most of you already have or know the Dimension Reverb all too well but I am so much in love wit this pedal I just have to share this.
It was recorded saturday with an iPhone 6 about 2m from the stage front. I'm tapping the notes and it sounds better than I could ever ask for.
The MWBD just got overthrown as my favorite SA pedal.
 
Okay, so I've had a lot of problems with these recent updates, but ultimately nothing was broken so as to be unfixable. Here's a quick list of the problems I encountered (and what the problem/solution was):

(1) Manta went nuts/seemed bricked during a firmware update (firmware recovery process worked)
(2) Firmware recovery of Manta never said it was successful, even though it was (not sure if software bug or hardware issue---ultimately irrelevant at this point)
(3) Hub Manager not recognizing Hub scenes (solved by power cycling the Hub; still having some Hub Manager issues, but a Hub power cycle usually works)
(4) Manta and OFD not responding to Hub Manager and 3rd Party MIDI commands (solved once I understood the new MIDI options present within the Hub Manager and firmware)

I'm recounting all of that to provide context for the following: there are a lot of explanations for what I am about to say. I'm pretty sure I know what I'm doing, but there's a chance I'm wrong.

Having said that, my Manta does not seem to be saving presets to Footswitch #2. I engage Preset #2 with the footswitch, adjust knobs, and try to hold the footswitch to save it, and when I let go of the footswitch, it goes into bypass. When I engage it again, it has not been properly saved. When I go through the exact same process on my Bass OFD, it works. Any ideas what is going on here?
Let me know if you keep having this issue. I have version 8 here on manta and can save on preset 2.
 
Let me know if you keep having this issue. I have version 8 here on manta and can save on preset 2.

I will try again tonight. I will say that up until a few weeks ago, I had not enabled Tap Tempo and I've been a little confused by the operation of the switches. However, I thought this should be straightforward and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, if anything.