rsmith601
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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3
- Thread starter gregmon79
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It's so nice to have everything tied together! A lot nicer tweaking settings on the laptop vs the phone for some reason.
Question though, is it normal practice to have to hit Scan Devices after powering up for One pedals to take orders from the Hub? When I power on and hit a preset, the SB2 and Nemesis pedals go to work but my Aftershock just sits there. If I hit scan and retry the preset, it works from then on out
Question though, is it normal practice to have to hit Scan Devices after powering up for One pedals to take orders from the Hub? When I power on and hit a preset, the SB2 and Nemesis pedals go to work but my Aftershock just sits there. If I hit scan and retry the preset, it works from then on out
*Disclaimer: I'm new to the Hub technology*
• Noticed that the knob-tweaking on the pedal parameter screen does not reflect instantaneously on the sound coming out of the one series pedal (on Mac). Is this a feature under development?
• Hence, what I'm doing is playing with the parameters on the neuro app (phone) and then clicking on the "read from pedal" button on the Hub manager (computer) to hear the changes and save scenes.
• Also, will the "browse sounds" section be available from the Hub Manager? didn't find the option.
Thanks for the help.
• Noticed that the knob-tweaking on the pedal parameter screen does not reflect instantaneously on the sound coming out of the one series pedal (on Mac). Is this a feature under development?
• Hence, what I'm doing is playing with the parameters on the neuro app (phone) and then clicking on the "read from pedal" button on the Hub manager (computer) to hear the changes and save scenes.
• Also, will the "browse sounds" section be available from the Hub Manager? didn't find the option.
Thanks for the help.
Loving the new Mac software - it works great wth the hub and my Gemini (and Aftershock once Bassdirect get them in). I'm using a One Control Gecko MKII midi switcher to control everything and it's working a treat (but as mentioned above, I have to press 'scan devices' every time I power up). I've been downloading user and artist presets from the neuro site and then importing them but I agree with bruno40gr, direct access from the Mac Hub editor would be better.
I reluctantly have my Mobius for sale but the Gemini is a worthy replacement that meets most of my needs (except the autoswell - guys, you really need to work on that algorithm!). Can't wait to set up some aftershock+gemini scenes
Photos to follow once the aftershock arrives.
I reluctantly have my Mobius for sale but the Gemini is a worthy replacement that meets most of my needs (except the autoswell - guys, you really need to work on that algorithm!). Can't wait to set up some aftershock+gemini scenes
Photos to follow once the aftershock arrives.
For your amusement or horror ...
Scrapped my smaller digital board to build a big "funboard" for experiments and general noise making. Wiring this was a *****.
Scrapped my smaller digital board to build a big "funboard" for experiments and general noise making. Wiring this was a *****.
Been rotating in and out various SA things. The DR has made it's way back on to my board, and Aftershock is pulling all sorts of duties now that I'm able to get everything talking to the Hub.
Really digging Smoked Glass and finding a really nice tone to sit with the Piano. Here's a little bit of it in action at practice, sloppy playing and all
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I've some questions for the Source Audio guys and whoever already has the Aftershock:
1) Is there any way to use the mobile editing functions together with using both input/outputs? (i.e. without having to unplug)
I'm having this in mind, could you tell me if this might work:
- I make a TRS mixer box. It has two TRS inputs and one TRS output. The output signal is a direct blend of the two input signals. One input signal will be from my other pedals, the other input signal will be from my mobile device.
- Signal chain is bass -> Aftershock input 1 -> [Aftershock channel 1 set to either clean, distortion or fuzz with noise gate] -> Aftershock output 1 -> External pedals -> Input A of mixer box -> Aftershock input 2 -> [Aftershock channel 2 set to clean with EQ and noise gate] -> Aftershock output 2 -> Amp
(note that I'm using output 1 -> input 2 as my 'effects loop' instead of output 2 -> input 2 because based on the manual, if I use the pre/post effects loop option, I only get one engine. However, I don't need to change the order of the effects, if I do, I can always just set channel 1 clean and channel 2 distortion or vice-versa. What I want to do is to use channel 1 as my 'heavy distortions/fuzz', send it into my B7K for tone shaping and convenient EQ knobs, and then send that back into channel 2 for a much-needed noise gate and 30hz low cut shelving filter)
What I'm hoping this will do is to allow me to simultaneously send audio signals as well as Neuro commands to the Aftershock (e.g. so I can hear in real-time what my tweaks are doing and so I don't have to keep unplugging). My only concern is whether the Aftershock will automatically detect that it is a TRS or TS, and turn the control mode on and off accordingly, but I doubt so because page 31 shows a daisy chain that can send both audio and neuro commands.
In fact, I'd take this one step further: @rsmith601 could I ask if the Neuro app only sends Neuro commands on the ring channel of the TRS? I'm making this hypothesis simply because it would make more sense that way. If so, I would make a TRS mixer box that routs audio from my effects loop to the sleeve of input 2, and neuro from my phone to the ring of input 2.
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2) How would I use the Neuro app together with the Hub? I think I saw some discussion on that earlier but I'm not 100% sure and I'd like to confirm if this works:
- At home, I save my various settings to the hub and recall them using MIDI messages. I will also save the settings to my Neuro app.
- At rehearsals, I'll leave my phone plugged in (if what I'm asking in question 1 can work). As and when I need to change a parameter, I will do the following steps:
(i) use hub+MIDI to load up the right preset
(ii) simultaneously load the same preset on neuro app
(iii) perform the appropriate tweaks from phone, send all, save settings on neuro app
(iv) press and hold on the hub to save the new settings
At the moment, there is no way to use the Neuro app directly with the Hub, right?
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3) Also, regarding the manual ([Invalid or Expired Link Removed]):
- on Page 11, the manual says you have 3 possible presets, you can save one preset in each of the 3 switch positions.
- However, on Page 27, it says that you have 3 burn slots and one preset slot?
Am I misinterpreting this somehow? I know I asked about this quite a while back and at that time, the official Source Audio guys said that there's 3 burn slots (saves the 'hidden' settings, but knobs still work) and 1 preset (only on/off to get the exact same sound every time?). But the description on page 11 makes it sound like you can have 3 burn slots, and 1 preset slot for each switch position.
1) Is there any way to use the mobile editing functions together with using both input/outputs? (i.e. without having to unplug)
I'm having this in mind, could you tell me if this might work:
- I make a TRS mixer box. It has two TRS inputs and one TRS output. The output signal is a direct blend of the two input signals. One input signal will be from my other pedals, the other input signal will be from my mobile device.
- Signal chain is bass -> Aftershock input 1 -> [Aftershock channel 1 set to either clean, distortion or fuzz with noise gate] -> Aftershock output 1 -> External pedals -> Input A of mixer box -> Aftershock input 2 -> [Aftershock channel 2 set to clean with EQ and noise gate] -> Aftershock output 2 -> Amp
(note that I'm using output 1 -> input 2 as my 'effects loop' instead of output 2 -> input 2 because based on the manual, if I use the pre/post effects loop option, I only get one engine. However, I don't need to change the order of the effects, if I do, I can always just set channel 1 clean and channel 2 distortion or vice-versa. What I want to do is to use channel 1 as my 'heavy distortions/fuzz', send it into my B7K for tone shaping and convenient EQ knobs, and then send that back into channel 2 for a much-needed noise gate and 30hz low cut shelving filter)
What I'm hoping this will do is to allow me to simultaneously send audio signals as well as Neuro commands to the Aftershock (e.g. so I can hear in real-time what my tweaks are doing and so I don't have to keep unplugging). My only concern is whether the Aftershock will automatically detect that it is a TRS or TS, and turn the control mode on and off accordingly, but I doubt so because page 31 shows a daisy chain that can send both audio and neuro commands.
In fact, I'd take this one step further: @rsmith601 could I ask if the Neuro app only sends Neuro commands on the ring channel of the TRS? I'm making this hypothesis simply because it would make more sense that way. If so, I would make a TRS mixer box that routs audio from my effects loop to the sleeve of input 2, and neuro from my phone to the ring of input 2.
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2) How would I use the Neuro app together with the Hub? I think I saw some discussion on that earlier but I'm not 100% sure and I'd like to confirm if this works:
- At home, I save my various settings to the hub and recall them using MIDI messages. I will also save the settings to my Neuro app.
- At rehearsals, I'll leave my phone plugged in (if what I'm asking in question 1 can work). As and when I need to change a parameter, I will do the following steps:
(i) use hub+MIDI to load up the right preset
(ii) simultaneously load the same preset on neuro app
(iii) perform the appropriate tweaks from phone, send all, save settings on neuro app
(iv) press and hold on the hub to save the new settings
At the moment, there is no way to use the Neuro app directly with the Hub, right?
-----
3) Also, regarding the manual ([Invalid or Expired Link Removed]):
- on Page 11, the manual says you have 3 possible presets, you can save one preset in each of the 3 switch positions.
- However, on Page 27, it says that you have 3 burn slots and one preset slot?
Am I misinterpreting this somehow? I know I asked about this quite a while back and at that time, the official Source Audio guys said that there's 3 burn slots (saves the 'hidden' settings, but knobs still work) and 1 preset (only on/off to get the exact same sound every time?). But the description on page 11 makes it sound like you can have 3 burn slots, and 1 preset slot for each switch position.
Adamixoye
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Holy #%^*drool! That has to be one of the nicest boards in the history of history! Well played, sir!
Loving the new Mac software - it works great wth the hub and my Gemini (and Aftershock once Bassdirect get them in). I'm using a One Control Gecko MKII midi switcher to control everything and it's working a treat (but as mentioned above, I have to press 'scan devices' every time I power up). I've been downloading user and artist presets from the neuro site and then importing them but I agree with bruno40gr, direct access from the Mac Hub editor would be better.
I reluctantly have my Mobius for sale but the Gemini is a worthy replacement that meets most of my needs (except the autoswell - guys, you really need to work on that algorithm!). Can't wait to set up some aftershock+gemini scenes
Same problem for me. I have to hit Scan Devices on the hub after powerup for the Aftershock to respond to the Program change messages from the hub. Any ideas on why this is the case, or how to fix?
For your amusement or horror ...
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I absolutely love this.. I'm interested in the weight of the board and case( if it has one).
as I am totally trying to make my pedalboard like this except way simpler.
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Does it have a case?
I don't know the weight, I'll try the bathroom scales later ... but regardless I'd say it's "too **** heavy".
No case, at least not yet. I haven't planned for one because I don't expect to travel or gig with this board. Building a flight case could become a project in itself, I've thought about trying that.
I don't know the weight, I'll try the bathroom scales later ... but regardless I'd say it's "too **** heavy".
No case, at least not yet. I haven't planned for one because I don't expect to travel or gig with this board. Building a flight case could become a project in itself, I've thought about trying that.
Haha fair enough
