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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

#9,141
aguacateojos said:
I think my main hesitation here is that I've never really used reverb on a board before and every MIDI pedal I'm seeing is fairly expensive, seems like a high price for entry into an effect I might not even like using. Maybe I should look in to getting a cheap multi effect to at least give it a shot.
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That is where i am as far as delay and reverb go on bass as well. On other instruments and vox i use a lot of those efx as a studio engineer but as a bassist apart from some ambient room reverb for air I rarely use delay or 'verb on bass and when I do my Zoom pedals suffice. I will say that I am using reverb and delay a lot more on syth sounds in my creative space but live I am still playing bass so i just don't need more on my pedal board.

Check out a used Zoom MS60B or MS70CDR plenty of Reverb and Delays to choose from for cheep.
 
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#9,143
enjoi1018 said:
This is the stuff that will start to come out as it hits the market. Totally not a bad thing, especially for where this pedal is trying to fit into the market.

I think SA sells boatloads of the Collider. Which will fuel the compressor, EQ, preamp, and modulation spaceship they will build us!

Remember when we simply begged for a synth?
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When I read the press release, I thought...hmm nice but not for me. I already have a pair of H9’s that I’m happy with. How ever...guitarists are going to love em and probably sell truck loads. Which is a good thing.
 
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#9,145
gregmon79 said:
It’s about time some put an actual Freeze in their delay!!!!! Jeez that took forever. I know there’s other delays out there that do this sorta thing but to me they never quite made just like the EHX Freeze. This sounds like the exact thing abouts.
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Nemesis has delay hold, what your hearing is reverb hold though, no delay hold in collider. Ventris has reverb hold, and the added benefit of turning on the second reverb so you don’t loose any ambience when using the hold on the first reverb.
Melvin7822 said:
I will also echo that the Collider does not appear to be bass friendly. Losing the feedback filter low cut and high cut on the delay side and the bass and treble controls on the reverb side are a huge loss.
On a minor point, there’s no spillover on the reverb side.
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The tone control (treble) works on both delay and reverb essentially the same as the high cut from nemesis, most reverb some of the reverb engines has the bass control under control 1.
aguacateojos said:
I think my main hesitation here is that I've never really used reverb on a board before and every MIDI pedal I'm seeing is fairly expensive, seems like a high price for entry into an effect I might not even like using. Maybe I should look in to getting a cheap multi effect to at least give it a shot.
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A used hub and dimension reverb would get you a midi reverb around $200 or possibly less.
 
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aguacateojos said:
Hub is already on my board, I'll check out the Dimension. Thanks for the tip. Size might be a deciding factor but, then again, I thankfully ordered a PT Classic One instead of a Jr so there's space to work with.
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After foolishly watching the demo vid, I may have a Dimension up for sale. It's a great reverb pedal, has a wide range of sounds and the wide tweakability SA is know for. I don't use much delay, and while I really liked what the Collider can do, it may have me leaning more heavily toward the Ventris.
 
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Gibs210 said:
Nemesis has delay hold, what your hearing is reverb hold though, no delay hold in collider. Ventris has reverb hold, and the added benefit of turning on the second reverb so you don’t loose any ambience when using the hold on the first reverb.

The tone control (treble) works on both delay and reverb essentially the same as the high cut from nemesis, most reverb some of the reverb engines has the bass control under control 1.

A used hub and dimension reverb would get you a midi reverb around $200 or possibly less.
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well, the ehx freeze was always that type of hold. It’s always been unique. It’s not just a delay hold. The way it grabs the note isn’t just a delay hold. If that was the case I’d a been happy with any other delay hold I’ve tried on other delay pedals. Just sayin.
 
#9,155
enjoi1018 said:
Just to make sure I understand correctly: does this mean there is no way to swap engines on the Collider? I.e. take one of the Nemesis engines not programmed on the Collider, and save it on the Collider in place of say, the Oil Can delay?
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No one's addressed it directly, but reading between the lines I'm guessing that you do not get any additional engines in the Collider. I'm sure someone can check the Neuro app to confirm.
 
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I received my Micro gHost from Disaster Area earlier this week (pics to follow, I took a few, but my phone decided not to save them for some rando reason).

Any thoughts from people who are using other controllers when it comes to 'expression control'? I assume I can use the: External Expression Control: CC:100 (0-127) :: Assign parameters with Neuro Editor

...And setup one of the expression inputs on my ES-5. Anyone working this way and anything I should consider?

This would give me the opportunity to use a single expression control for multiple MIDI devices (Timeline delay, Atmosphere reverb, Future Impact Synth). To date I'm using a Neuro-Hub with my C4.

I'm not settled in to any one configuration yet re: Hub vs. Micro gHost, just playing around until something is comfy.
 
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enjoi1018 said:
Just to make sure I understand correctly: does this mean there is no way to swap engines on the Collider? I.e. take one of the Nemesis engines not programmed on the Collider, and save it on the Collider in place of say, the Oil Can delay?
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Adamixoye said:
No one's addressed it directly, but reading between the lines I'm guessing that you do not get any additional engines in the Collider. I'm sure someone can check the Neuro app to confirm.
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Agree. From everything I've seen it doesn't retain that feature from the Nemisis. There's no mention of it in the manual or any of the press/promo one-sheet info I've seen. Also, from our interaction here, I feel that that would have been volunteered up if it were a reality.
 
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enjoi1018 said:
Just to make sure I understand correctly: does this mean there is no way to swap engines on the Collider? I.e. take one of the Nemesis engines not programmed on the Collider, and save it on the Collider in place of say, the Oil Can delay?
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There is no burning and/or replacing engines like Nemesis and Ventris. These features are VERY complex to manage on our end and they are best suited for high end users. Collider is intended to be easier to use. It is also intended to be less expensive to develop so we can sell it for $349 and not $399.
 
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rsmith601 said:
There is no burning and/or replacing engines like Nemesis and Ventris. These features are VERY complex to manage on our end and they are best suited for high end users. Collider is intended to be easier to use. It is also intended to be less expensive to develop so we can sell it for $349 and not $399.
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I get the impression that this was designed for guitar players who don't ever plan to plug their pedal to a computer or a phone and everything is laid bare in the pedal knobs and interface. My guitar player is genuinely interested in this, while he thinks of my other Series 1 pedals as something that belongs on a space shuttle. I have tried to tell him for YEARS, that just because it can do something doesn't mean that you have to use that aspect. But he always felt like he was "paying for features he wasn't going to use." As a result, he is looking into getting one of these to replace the delay and reverb that he currently has because it is actually easier to use.
 

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