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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

I am using the Midi Moose, and powering all 4 pedals at the moment with a 1-spot and have no noise. I may purchase a voodoo labs 4x4. As of now it is noiseless so I may not! I hope you can find the problem. Do you have any power cables crossing audio, and or hub link cables. This may cause hum I believe.

Question on powering the SA pedals. Will end up eventually with 5 soundblox 2 pedals, PEQ, Hub and a Midi Mouse. Would a One Spot work, or would I need something more like the Voodoo Labs 4x4. Seems someone else was having an issue with the one spot, but not sure if that was the one spot or something else.

Thanks
 
Question on powering the SA pedals. Will end up eventually with 5 soundblox 2 pedals, PEQ, Hub and a Midi Mouse. Would a One Spot work, or would I need something more like the Voodoo Labs 4x4. Seems someone else was having an issue with the one spot, but not sure if that was the one spot or something else.

Thanks

I am powering a Hub, 2 SB2 pedals, a tuner and M5 all on a 1spot with no noise or issue. My controller is on a separate power line. I think your potential setup might be too much for a 1spot. I don't see a problem with using 2 1spots as long as your noise isnt too crazy.
 
I am powering a Hub, 2 SB2 pedals, a tuner and M5 all on a 1spot with no noise or issue. My controller is on a separate power line. I think your potential setup might be too much for a 1spot. I don't see a problem with using 2 1spots as long as your noise isnt too crazy.


My entire board is powered by a few 1-Spots and Poweralls from godlyke. I like both, but I think that the Poweralls are more quiet (either it is better quality or maybe the ferrite core helps?). The Powerall also has an extra 300mA capacity (2000 vs 1700). I think one or two of those should be fine without any problems.

My experience is that the SA pedals will not really create noise when daisy chained, which is not the case with other pedals...
 
Will pick up a one spot. Received an e-mail from guitar center with a $30 e-cert so will be close to free. Even if it doesn't work out for this, will be worth having.

Also just ordered a dimension reverb, so will be looking forward to getting that in.
 
The manta has a lot of flexibility. There are 7 modulation sources, each of which sound very different, coupled with over 20 filter types, a controllable sweep range, and lots of other options that really shape the sound in different ways. There are hundreds of sounds in there, so it's hard to capture them all in a video.

However, there are a few videos on YouTube that give a good overview of the sounds you can find in the Manta.
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Between those two videos, you can start to get a sense for the number of sounds the Manta can provide.
Very cool. I'll definitely have to try one out.
 
They are also in the classifieds with reasonable frequency. If you keep checking for the next two weeks or so I'm sure you'll see one.
 
Does anyone know if the distortions on the Manta are similar to those on the Multiwave? I seem to have read that somewhere before.

I'm asking because after really enjoying the distortion tone I dialed in on the Manta, I picked up a Multiwave Bass Distortion Pro today secondhand, and while it's a rather cool pedal with nice tones, I can't seem to dial in that exact same distortion tone on it as the Manta. I know I could just use the Manta to get this tone, but the idea of getting the Multiwave is so that I can free up my second Manta preset for another filter or something.

The sound I'm using is a kind of sizzly distortion mixed with the dry tone. I made a recording by sticking my Zoom H4n in front of my amp and recording, here it is - https://www.dropbox.com/s/77kv35ehx0r5joo/bass sound sample.mp3
Just to clarify, the exact sound I want is on the second note I play, the Hothand-filter is just to illustrate the range of the filter and most of the time I leave it in the lowest position like in the second note.

I can't seem to reproduce this tone on the multiwave. The manta is set to distortion type 3 (I think it's the octave distortion), drive turned about 75% and blend about halfway between dry and wet with low retain, and filter 12 (phaser). Yeah, I know there's a phaser on it. So what I did was to completely turn off the drive on the Manta and run the Multiwave into it, so the Manta is purely acting as a hothand-controlled phaser, since in theory that should give me the same result... but after a night of tweaking I'm hardly closer to getting this same sound. The closest I get is with some of the normal or foldback multiband settings, but still not there.

Does anyone know how I can get closer to this sound with the Multiwave?

Many thanks in advance for any advice!
 
The Multiwave was designed to be its own beast. First we did the guitar version. Then we did the bass version, which added a clean mix. Then we did the Pro version of the Bass version. Finally we did the SB2 version. Again, all of these grew off of the original Multiwave Distortion (SB1).

Manta had a different development path. The challenge here was to add in a wide variety of distortion types using the very limited code that was left after doing all the filter stuff. Also, they each needed to sound good with the all (or most) of the filter types. Ideally, we wanted to capture some of the OFD, some of the Multiwave, and also allow people to do single pedal Dubstep wobble. The last item required getting some additional synthyness that does not exist in the Multiwave alone. You will note that some folks were adding in synth pedals to do this....and we wanted to make it a one pedal solution. Because of all these things, the Manta distortions really became their own thing and are really not the same as what you find on the OFD or the Multiwave. Hope this helps!
 
Nic,

I had all three at one point, the OFD, Manta, and the MWBD. I can second everything Roger posted. They all are different flavors of distortion. I can't help you dial in the multi wave since I sold it a while ago, but from what I remember it was definitely in a different area than the Manta.