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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

Hate to disrupt the MIDI discussion in the SA thread, and yes, I probably am being lazy...
Is there a way to search the SA Neuro site for presets? I know what I want, but there's 255 pages of presets and I can't seem to find a way of narrowing down what I'm looking for except by pedal type (that's how I got is down to 'only' 255...)
"Superstition" has turned up in a project's setlist and I'm looking for anything that approximates a Clavinet sound.
So if you can point me to such a preset, I'd appreciate it. If you can tell me how to apply search terms to presets, I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate it.

On the website: In the same row where you can filter for pedals there is a text search box over to the left. You can just add Clavinet there. "thehook" had a good one, maybe more, I think.
 
Hate to disrupt the MIDI discussion in the SA thread, and yes, I probably am being lazy...
Is there a way to search the SA Neuro site for presets? I know what I want, but there's 255 pages of presets and I can't seem to find a way of narrowing down what I'm looking for except by pedal type (that's how I got is down to 'only' 255...)
"Superstition" has turned up in a project's setlist and I'm looking for anything that approximates a Clavinet sound.
So if you can point me to such a preset, I'd appreciate it. If you can tell me how to apply search terms to presets, I'm sure a lot of people will appreciate it.

If you have a Browser open / available then I tend to find the search options on the Web version to be a lot easier to navigate:
Neuro Community by Source Audio
 
While looking around the Source Audio's blog site I stumbled across this page:
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It's really useful for understanding the Aftershock's desktop editor.
The list of distortion models and what they are based on is really useful to know. The Lunar / Gemini and Mercury's desktop editor controls should be very similar. If I'd seen this a few months ago, it would have saved me a fair bit of time and experimentation.
 
Each pedal (including the Neuro hub) should have it’s own MIDI channel so you can send messages to a specific pedal
Not necessarily. Given that the hub only responds to PCs and the pedals don’t, it’s fine to set Hub’s channel to be the same as one of the connected pedals. My Hub and C4 are on channel 2, every other device has its own channel.
 
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Not necessarily. Given that the hub only responds to PCs and the pedals don’t, it’s fine to set Hub’s channel to be the same as one of the connected pedals. My Hub and C4 are on channel 2, every other device has its own channel.
Disaster Area suggested just putting the Hub and the DMC Micro on the same midi channel, and let the Hub do the rest.
 
Not necessarily. Given that the hub only responds to PCs and the pedals don’t, it’s fine to set Hub’s channel to be the same as one of the connected pedals. My Hub and C4 are on channel 2, every other device has its own channel.
We can at least agree that pedals that react to both PCs and CCs should normally go on their own channel though, right?
 
We can at least agree that pedals that react to both PCs and CCs should normally go on their own channel though, right?
Yes. (Though I guess there could be cases where you might want two on the same channel, eg when running a duplicate pair of the same pedal or something. I’ve thought about running two C4s to be able to get four distinct notes in the harmoniser and four instances of a given waveform.)
 
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Not necessarily. Given that the hub only responds to PCs and the pedals don’t, it’s fine to set Hub’s channel to be the same as one of the connected pedals. My Hub and C4 are on channel 2, every other device has its own channel.
My Hub's been on Ch 1 for about 3 years! My Aftershock was also on the same Ch, once upon a time, that was the only way it would work. Thankfully things have moved on and progressed! I've now got 11 midi devices attached, which leaves 5 channel left.
 
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So after all these months of playing with a pedal one at a time, waiting for enough free time to really experiment, tonight I played around with sorting the pedals and finding a good starting point for multi effect mayhem on both bass and guitar. I should have gone to bed 3 hours ago. This was so much fun. Can’t wait to resume tomorrow.

I haven’t even started in with the hubs and midi controllers, just some loaded presets, knob twiddling and playing around.
 
View attachment 4401934 So after all these months of playing with a pedal one at a time, waiting for enough free time to really experiment, tonight I played around with sorting the pedals and finding a good starting point for multi effect mayhem on both bass and guitar. I should have gone to bed 3 hours ago. This was so much fun. Can’t wait to resume tomorrow.

I haven’t even started in with the hubs and midi controllers, just some loaded presets, knob twiddling and playing around.
Which pedalboard is this?
 
My Hub's been on Ch 1 for about 3 years! My Aftershock was also on the same Ch, once upon a time, that was the only way it would work. Thankfully things have moved on and progressed! I've now got 11 midi devices attached, which leaves 5 channel left.
Speaking of midi...my FaderFox PC4 is here and on my board. Used mostly to control addional parameters on my Source Audio pedals. Having a dedicated output level on my Spectrum, C4 and Lunar for instance...very sweet indeed. It means I can get my output levels right when stacking effects.

No longer is there room for carefully placed coffee any more :eek: ...end of an era...and an Inbox of complaints and cautions!

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Speaking of midi...my FaderFox PC4 is here and on my board. Used mostly to control addional parameters on my Source Audio pedals. Having a dedicated output level on my Spectrum, C4 and Lunar for instance...very sweet indeed. It means I can get my output levels right when stacking effects.

No longer is there room for carefully placed coffee any more :eek: ...end of an era...and an Inbox of complaints and cautions!

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Coffee is good….
 
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Speaking of midi...my FaderFox PC4 is here and on my board. Used mostly to control addional parameters on my Source Audio pedals. Having a dedicated output level on my Spectrum, C4 and Lunar for instance...very sweet indeed. It means I can get my output levels right when stacking effects.

No longer is there room for carefully placed coffee any more :eek: ...end of an era...and an Inbox of complaints and cautions!

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$300 and that size seems a lot to pay for a few volume knobs. I have to believe you’re using it for other features as well.
 
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pedaltrain classic pro. Very light weight. Comes with gig bag. 32”x16” Cioks DC7 powers all 9 SA pedals with the included power cables. Each port can manage 660ma at 9v.

I got the Pro FX, but kinda wish I had got the Classic. I missed that incline. But I had gotten it on the Sweetwater Deal zone thing for like $50 off for being a "Demo" but for the life of me, I couldn't find where it was even touched. It turned out way too big, so I put it away and am now building up the Jr. MAX instead. This was when I decided to get into the SA pedals too, so they eliminate about 60% of what had been using. So I can easily downsize without much issues.

I have the Cioks DC7 too. Hands down the best power supply I have even owned and I have/do owned a ton of them through the years. It will power them power hungry pedals too. It will power the TC Plethora X5 and its 600ms needing self.
 
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$300 and that size seems a lot to pay for a few volume knobs. I have to believe you’re using it for other features as well.
Here in the Uk it's a lot cheaper comparatively, about £180ish delivered.
Because my entire board is midi enabled, it means that I can assign a knob to any parameter that I find on any device editor...in real time. I have had different patches on the PC4 to assign different functions. So I could have an H9, a Hog2, a C4 dedicated panel. I could have a dedicated EQ2 panel that has 10 knobs mapped to the sliders and a further to modify the Q's or frequencies. It's THAT powerful. It's a pity it hasn't got any CC assignable push buttons, that would make it even more powerful. I was weighing up the EC4 vs the PC4. The EC4 has encoders, I went for the one with more knobs :D
It's certainly not a device for everyone.
 
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How's the pots working when you power up the board ?
Do you have to turn the pot to "catch" the parameter and adjust from there or does the pedal "jump" to the new setting when you turn a pot ?
I guess it works the same with the EC3.
You can assign the PC4 to do either. I'm still working out how I'm going to use it. So far it's been pretty useful, although sourcing 3.5 TRS B to Midi 5 pin cables is a bit of head ache, and I'll need to work out how I can add 5v USB power to my board.
 
You can assign the PC4 to do either. I'm still working out how I'm going to use it. So far it's been pretty useful, although sourcing 3.5 TRS B to Midi 5 pin cables is a bit of head ache, and I'll need to work out how I can add 5v USB power to my board.
Custom Lynx does custom Type A 3.5mm to DIN cables, could perhaps send them an email to see if they can make you some Type B? I use these guys for MIDI and instrument cables and they have been great

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You can assign the PC4 to do either. I'm still working out how I'm going to use it. So far it's been pretty useful, although sourcing 3.5 TRS B to Midi 5 pin cables is a bit of head ache, and I'll need to work out how I can add 5v USB power to my board.
Does the PC4/pedals remember the last thing you edited without hittinh the save button ?
If that's the case than I have been missing something.
I'm remodeling the house so everything is in boxes but the EC5 is now on my to-get-list. Looks neat and useful.