Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3

[LowWay]

Perfectly possible as there's a dry/wet blend on the master section. Also, you could assign one of the 4 voices to just be dry input.

Why not have a play around with it in Soundcheck?

I will. For sure. I'm just stuck in a hospital waiting room with no headphones right now.

 

[rsmith601]

I will. For sure. I'm just stuck in a hospital waiting room with no headphones right now.

Its funny, I have always owned large over-ear headphones for being on planes and such. Because of SoundCheck, I now added high quality earbuds to the equation. Very handy!

 

[LowWay]

I own a couple pairs of good iems, I just ran out of the house without grabbing some since I thought it was gonna be an in and out quickly for a scheduled blood draw.

Now I'm at work with my Akg k712s but too busy to play around.

 

[Taustin Powers]

Thanks for all the advice on using the Ladder filter. I think I am getting the hang of it.

Just published my first preset - a quacky filter with some distortion. It's named "Bass Ladder TP" if you want to check it out.

 

[rsmith601]

Thanks for all the advice on using the Ladder filter. I think I am getting the hang of it.

Just published my first preset - a quacky filter with some distortion. It's named "Bass Ladder TP" if you want to check it out.

It took me only 30 seconds to check out your new preset with a couple of different bass clips. Smooth Bass and Flatwound Bass clips are the best ones. Wurly Keys and Funk Drums are out there!! Excellent work.

 

[tonym]

Thanks for all the advice on using the Ladder filter. I think I am getting the hang of it.

Just published my first preset - a quacky filter with some distortion. It's named "Bass Ladder TP" if you want to check it out.

Nice job - just downloaded to check out with my flatwound bass tonight.

@rsmith601 - loving the SoundCheck. SO easy to work with.

 

[ShoesMagoo]

Would love to see a dual-channel SA One series modulation pedal in the future which allowed any 2 of the Gemini/Mercury/Lunar models to be loaded, perhaps like the way Collider does so that the order can be determined. Even cooler if it were knobby like Collider and had per-preset knob mappings for both the A and B sides. (I do know however that the larger format pedals are costlier/riskier.)

Yep. A Lunar/Gemini/Mercury revision in this format would be awesome. You'd be able to have access to all the stuff that currently requires the editor to get to.

 

[rsmith601]

Nice job - just downloaded to check out with my flatwound bass tonight.

@rsmith601 - loving the SoundCheck. SO easy to work with.

Thanks Tony! SoundCheck is a serious innovation!! Glad you like it.

 

[LowWay]

I should have just googled it. The google AI was actually surprisingly helpful:

The Source Audio C4 Synth pedal can be used as a state variable filter (SVF) thanks to its highly customizable engine and the Neuro Desktop Editor or Neuro Mobile App
.
Here's how to utilize the C4 as a state variable filter:
1. Understanding State Variable Filters:

• An SVF is a versatile type of filter that can produce low-pass, high-pass, band-pass, and notch filter responses simultaneously.
• It achieves this by using a combination of integrators and feedback loops, allowing for independent control over frequency, resonance (Q), and gain.

2. Using the Neuro Editor/App:

• Connect: Connect your C4 Synth to your computer or mobile device and open the Neuro Editor/App.
• Create a Preset: Create a new preset or modify an existing one.
• Filter Selection: Navigate to the filter section within the Neuro Editor/App.
• Choose a Filter: Select a filter algorithm that closely resembles or is designed as a state variable filter. The C4 offers a wide variety of filters, so look for terms like "SVF," "Multi-Mode," or "Ladder".
• Adjust Parameters:
  • Cutoff Frequency: This controls the frequency at which the filter starts to attenuate the signal. Adjust it to change the filter's center frequency.
  • Resonance (Q): Adjusting resonance will affect the filter's emphasis around the cutoff frequency. Higher resonance values create a more pronounced peak at the cutoff point.
  • Filter Mode: If the selected filter offers multiple modes, you can switch between low-pass, high-pass, band-pass, and notch filter responses. This allows the C4 to function as different types of filters.
• Modulation: Take advantage of the C4's modulation capabilities by using LFOs or envelope followers to modulate the filter's parameters, particularly the cutoff frequency and resonance. This can create dynamic and expressive filter effects.
• Save Preset: Once you've dialed in the desired SVF settings, save your preset to the C4.

3. Tips for Using the C4 as an SVF:

• Experiment: Explore the different filter types available on the C4 to find those best suited for your sound.
• Modulation: Experiment with LFOs and envelope followers to modulate the filter parameters for more interesting and dynamic results.
• Community Presets: Look for state variable filter presets within the Neuro Community cloud for inspiration and ready-to-use sounds.

By following these steps and exploring the C4's deep editing capabilities, you can effectively use it as a state variable filter to create a wide range of synth and filter effects.

 

[bassbrad]

I should have just googled it. The google AI was actually surprisingly helpful:

The Source Audio C4 Synth pedal can be used as a state variable filter (SVF) thanks to its highly customizable engine and the Neuro Desktop Editor or Neuro Mobile App
.
Here's how to utilize the C4 as a state variable filter:
1. Understanding State Variable Filters:

• An SVF is a versatile type of filter that can produce low-pass, high-pass, band-pass, and notch filter responses simultaneously.
• It achieves this by using a combination of integrators and feedback loops, allowing for independent control over frequency, resonance (Q), and gain.

2. Using the Neuro Editor/App:

• Connect: Connect your C4 Synth to your computer or mobile device and open the Neuro Editor/App.
• Create a Preset: Create a new preset or modify an existing one.
• Filter Selection: Navigate to the filter section within the Neuro Editor/App.
• Choose a Filter: Select a filter algorithm that closely resembles or is designed as a state variable filter. The C4 offers a wide variety of filters, so look for terms like "SVF," "Multi-Mode," or "Ladder".
• Adjust Parameters:
  • Cutoff Frequency: This controls the frequency at which the filter starts to attenuate the signal. Adjust it to change the filter's center frequency.
  • Resonance (Q): Adjusting resonance will affect the filter's emphasis around the cutoff frequency. Higher resonance values create a more pronounced peak at the cutoff point.
  • Filter Mode: If the selected filter offers multiple modes, you can switch between low-pass, high-pass, band-pass, and notch filter responses. This allows the C4 to function as different types of filters.
• Modulation: Take advantage of the C4's modulation capabilities by using LFOs or envelope followers to modulate the filter's parameters, particularly the cutoff frequency and resonance. This can create dynamic and expressive filter effects.
• Save Preset: Once you've dialed in the desired SVF settings, save your preset to the C4.

3. Tips for Using the C4 as an SVF:

• Experiment: Explore the different filter types available on the C4 to find those best suited for your sound.
• Modulation: Experiment with LFOs and envelope followers to modulate the filter parameters for more interesting and dynamic results.
• Community Presets: Look for state variable filter presets within the Neuro Community cloud for inspiration and ready-to-use sounds.

By following these steps and exploring the C4's deep editing capabilities, you can effectively use it as a state variable filter to create a wide range of synth and filter effects.

That is a creative use showing just how deep SA designs are. Kudos on your research and post.

Also Kudos as always to @rsmith601 and the entire SA staff for their creative efforts.

 

[Luke the Fluke]

Those of you with an artifakt on your bass board… what kind of thing are you using it for (apart from the killer filter)?

 

[InkCow]

For some reason, I can't get either of my USB midi compatible SA pedals (UW Bass, Spectrum) to respond to midi messages passed through the usb midi through on my HX One.

The messages are definitely being sent, if I connect the HX One to my Mac, I see them in MIDI Monitor.

It's not the end of the world since my midi controller (MVAVE Chocolate Plus) also has a USB host port, and they respond to that, but I'm curious why it's not working via the midi through on the HX One. If I could get it to work, it would mean I could use my controller wirelessly, which would be a nice feature.

 

[Taustin Powers]

Those of you with an artifakt on your bass board… what kind of thing are you using it for (apart from the killer filter)?

Besides the ladder filter, I haven't found much that is super effective or useful for bass so far. Playing around with the vinyl for a bass intro to a song, and it's alright, but most of these effects shine more on guitar parts.

 

[bassbrad]

Those of you with an artifakt on your bass board… what kind of thing are you using it for (apart from the killer filter)?

It will likely not make onto a bass board as all too often find a use on my production duties, but I do occasionally use it on bass parts especially to get an uber vintage vibe or some wildly crunched up part.

 

[LowWay]

I think the filter alone is worth the price of admission. That's a juicy filter.

 

[_Tay_]

Those of you with an artifakt on your bass board… what kind of thing are you using it for (apart from the killer filter)?

I use it for a funky filter and flanger recently when i gig. It has a great flanger sound that can keep the low end of the bass too (same with any of its tape modulation effects) I also like to use the oscillate feature on one tune where we just make crazy sounds on one part of the song. That is the second switch on the flanger patch i use.

It is great for warm, slight OD sounds and wild bit crush/distortion sounds too.

Artifakt is capable of lots of wierd and wonderful sounds. Feel like i've only really scratched the surface of it and need to spend a lot more time with it.

 

[Luke the Fluke]

For some reason, I can't get either of my USB midi compatible SA pedals (UW Bass, Spectrum) to respond to midi messages passed through the usb midi through on my HX One.

The messages are definitely being sent, if I connect the HX One to my Mac, I see them in MIDI Monitor.

It's not the end of the world since my midi controller (MVAVE Chocolate Plus) also has a USB host port, and they respond to that, but I'm curious why it's not working via the midi through on the HX One. If I could get it to work, it would mean I could use my controller wirelessly, which would be a nice feature.

Unlike the mvave HX one is not a USB host. When you plug it into your Mac the Mac is acting as the usb host

 

[Luke the Fluke]

Besides the ladder filter, I haven't found much that is super effective or useful for bass so far. Playing around with the vinyl for a bass intro to a song, and it's alright, but most of these effects shine more on guitar parts.

I use it for a funky filter and flanger recently when i gig. It has a great flanger sound that can keep the low end of the bass too (same with any of its tape modulation effects) I also like to use the oscillate feature on one tune where we just make crazy sounds on one part of the song. That is the second switch on the flanger patch i use.

It is great for warm, slight OD sounds and wild bit crush/distortion sounds too.

Artifakt is capable of lots of wierd and wonderful sounds. Feel like i've only really scratched the surface of it and need to spend a lot more time with it.

I use it for a funky filter and flanger recently when i gig. It has a great flanger sound that can keep the low end of the bass too (same with any of its tape modulation effects) I also like to use the oscillate feature on one tune where we just make crazy sounds on one part of the song. That is the second switch on the flanger patch i use.

It is great for warm, slight OD sounds and wild bit crush/distortion sounds too.

Artifakt is capable of lots of wierd and wonderful sounds. Feel like i've only really scratched the surface of it and need to spend a lot more time with it.

Thanks all! I loved trying it, it was both fun and satisfying to use…
I loved the chorus flange time based section of the device - but toying if that alone is worth adding it to my board

 

[InkCow]

Unlike the mvave HX one is not a USB host. When you plug it into your Mac the Mac is acting as the usb host

I'm not using it as a host: I have a Bluetooth midi dongle that is connected to an SA 168 attached to SA pedal #1, and the midi through on that runs into the midi 5 pin input on the HX One. I'm trying to use the midi through from that.

It just so happens that the Chocolate plus also has a USB midi host and both work simultaneously.

ETA: the Mac was only monitoring in this scenario: the midi messages were still all being sent via the Chocolate Plus (or regular Chocolate, I have both).

 

[Luke the Fluke]

I'm not using it as a host: I have a Bluetooth midi dongle that is connected to an SA 168 attached to SA pedal #1, and the midi through on that runs into the midi 5 pin input on the HX One. I'm trying to use the midi through from that.

It just so happens that the Chocolate plus also has a USB midi host and both work simultaneously.

I am not a midi expert - but you've just described

Bluetooth -> SA168 -> Pedal
SA168 -> HX one

Try

Bluetooth -> HX one -> SA168 -> pedal