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Source Audio Sorcerers Society (S.A.S.S) Part 3
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rsmith601
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It is actually a very complex task that impacts the firmware on all 3 pedals, the installers for both Mac and Windows, the Android App, the iOS App, the Mac Desktop and the Windows Desktop, all the manuals, and more. There is also the likelihood that changing something in the firmware will break something else. Sorry!@rsmith601
Can we hope to map knobs on Lunar/Mercury/Gemini trilogy ?
I'd like to have a Mix knob on my Mercury...
It's just a simple algorithm in NeuroApp, no ?
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Would love to see a dual-channel SA One series modulation pedal in the future which allowed any 2 of the Gemini/Mercury/Lunar models to be loaded, perhaps like the way Collider does so that the order can be determined. Even cooler if it were knobby like Collider and had per-preset knob mappings for both the A and B sides. (I do know however that the larger format pedals are costlier/riskier.)
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That would’ve been my other suggestion but I think they are unlikely to want to go that route; would be a huge price tag. One beauty of the One Series + Hub is that they can function as standalone pedals and can be combined for a pseudo-multi-fx setup (albeit without the inherent ability to quickly switch the chain order).If we're doing wishlists here, I'm hanging out for the SA multi-FX box of doom, in which we can patch any assortment of SA effects in any order
Gigrig ???If we're doing wishlists here, I'm hanging out for the SA multi-FX box of doom, in which we can patch any assortment of SA effects in any order
I don't think it's going to happen, either - hellaciously expensive to make, and commercially risky. The Hub combined with a good switcher is probably as close as I'd get... which is probably close enough.
Hadn't heard of it before, but it looks kind of intriguing. Shame about the terrible website design, though; why do they make it so hard to figure out just what's on offer?
You haven't been searching for device drivers for discontinued, but perfectly good, products in the last 5 years, apparently.
I have
I do think that modulation is an area where the newer hardware available in the C4 or Aftershock would benefit a lot. Having three seperate units with only three patches each isn't going to move me to buy one anytime soon. A single One Series with 128 patches that can use all three pedal algorythms would prick up my ears considerably. Even a larger One Series unit (Ventris sized) with the option of two patches concurrently (if it also includes a trem) would certainly make me ditch my current Strymon Mobius for one.
However, from a sales perspective, will another modulation pedal sell well?
However, from a sales perspective, will another modulation pedal sell well?
If I remember correctly, the 1series modulators are a direct port of the Orbital Modulator algos with the only real changes being the features specifically related to the 1series design format such as stereo in/out and associated routing options, USB connection, expanded Midi control, and maybe some other hardware features. No additional modulation algorithm work was done, with exception of the Vertigo which is really just a stand alone pedal on it’s own.
An updated multi mod pedal would be a welcome addition to the line up, but I recall Roger mentioning that Modulation pedals don’t have nearly the sales numbers of Delay and Reverb, so it is unlikely that SA would make a larger format version, although I do think that version could be better suited for those effects.
On the other hand, my hope for the next SA pedal after the Ultrawave would be a Whammy/Pictfactor/HOG/POG killer pitch based pedal, but I digress…
An updated multi mod pedal would be a welcome addition to the line up, but I recall Roger mentioning that Modulation pedals don’t have nearly the sales numbers of Delay and Reverb, so it is unlikely that SA would make a larger format version, although I do think that version could be better suited for those effects.
On the other hand, my hope for the next SA pedal after the Ultrawave would be a Whammy/Pictfactor/HOG/POG killer pitch based pedal, but I digress…
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Same vote here!
Kind of doubt they'll kill the Pitchfactor/H9, I would settle for a Drop killer with extra features.
The thing that keeps me from buying SA pedals is they aren't bluetooth capable like the Eventide stuff is. I'd love to see that.
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What do you need them to do? One could plug a WIDI Master into the MIDI in port on the Hub and control all five attached pedals wirelessly. Likewise straight into the SA pedals which have a MIDI port (EQ2, Collider, Nemesis, Ventris).
MIDI is not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about being able to make changes to patches via bluetooth using the Neuro software. Making patches without having to hook up the pedal to my computer or having to use dongles to hook it up to my phone is a real plus in my book. I realize it's not an apples to apples comparison though. I'd just like to see it at some point.
rsmith601
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You must all realize that Bluetooth is not a panacea. In many ways, its not great at all.
1) Must have an antenna. Where does that go on a pedal??? H9 puts it under that screen. All-metal pedals cannot have Bluetooth. Period.
2) With Neuro you can talk to lots of pedals at the same time. Try that with Bluetooth. One at a time.
We will do it one day somehow, but it must be done in a way that fits the look and feel of our pedals and how they are used.
Obviously, we have thought about these issues a long time.
Before I stop being useful, I just want to say that's a great response with obviously legitimate and thoughtful concerns and barriers. There have also been times when I would like to access the Neuro app via bluetooth. But I'm fine using a dongle thing.
In other news, have you heard about the new movie from Steven Spielberg?
In other news, have you heard about the new movie from Steven Spielberg?
Do U think it can works in Live situation (smartphone's public) without problems ?
But we stiill need a (Sabrent) USB hub to configure all five pedals in the NeuroDesktop, even with the WIDI plug in the NeuroHub, for a less pedalboard cables ? if i've understand... Right ?
This is an important point.
Actually, wifi would be better but it requires static IP in the devices to be stable.
An example is Soundcraft Ui series digital mixers, their badly implemented wifi hotspot is a major problem.
Use cat5 cable or a static IP address for the builtin wifi and they work great.
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Is this for real? I long thought his life, with its brilliance and inherent tragedy, would make for a great film. Another great film candidate would be Art Pepper; if you haven’t read “Straight Life” I seriously recommend it.
