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SPECTOR® Club - Part 38

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smadder said:
For anyone who wants or needs a small, easy, and portable (if necessary) recording solution, musician's Friend's Stupid Deal of the Day is awesome today:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid/

It's the M-Audio Fast Track Pro mobile with Pro Tools SE (though I prefer Garage Band, which this will work with flawlessly) for $99 shipped.

Nice! Just picked one up. Thanks for passing that on. Is Pro Tools SE Mac compatible? I'm assuming it is.
 
smadder said:
Just my opinion (and I'm assuming you have a Haz copy in the NS-2A as well), but it's probably mostly the pickups and how they are interacting with the Haz based on their intended tonal footprint as designed by EMG.

The preamps that EMG installs inside it's pickups (be they CSs, DCs, PJs, Alnicos, JVs, MMs, etc.) are all the same. The only different internal preamp they've got is in the X series, so unless you're comparing those with the regular EMGs, you're dealing with the same internal pickup preamps.

However, The way the coils are wrapped in EMGs (and this is across their models) differ to get the desired tonal footprint. 40DC humbuckers tend to have a more detailed and crispy high end than the P or the J, and the MM pickups are wrapped differently to get that Music Man tone.

Unless you have drastically different Haz copies in each bass (like someone replaced the pots, or they are different model years or something like that), it's just the way the pickups are interacting with the preamp. Again, this is just my opinion from my experience using EMGs. A good example: When I had Chuckles' LX5 with 40DCs and the smadder setup and the Ian Hill with regular EMG PJs and the smadder setup (before I put the X series in them), the humbuckers had a lot more high end than the PJs. You could even tell when everything was set flat. So in my opinion, you're just dealing with different tones because the pickups vary both in design and what the frequency response is for them. I doubt there's anything wrong with the Haz copies themselves.

And I'm in the same boat as you. I want the action as low as possible, but I'm a heavy right hander, so I have to end up settling for medium low action. When I was at Jaymi's delivering the Ian Hill, he lowered it and I had a really difficult time playing it because I pluck so hard with my right hand. Same when I tried his Wimbish. It really threw me off. So I'm thinking about consciously trying to change my plucking style, but at heart, as much as I love playing neo-soul, hip hop and funk stuff (which is the bulk of what I get asked for), I was weaned on rock and it's hard to unlearn how my right hand attacks the strings. But my left hand loves the feel and ease of super low action setups, I just need to think about if I want to make a decision to consciously change my right hand attack or just stick with what I've been doing for years. It really would take a lot of work to change it because instead of thinking about the music, I'd be thinking about my right hand, you know what I mean?

I wish I could have the best of both, but physics just won't cooperate with my desires ;).

Sorry if I rambled a bit, but I hope this helps.

You could always try plucking over the bridge PU. It'll change your sound a bit, but the strings are tighter there.
 
Nice! Just picked one up. Thanks for passing that on. Is Pro Tools SE Mac compatible? I'm assuming it is.

No problem! If I didn't have the Tascam US-100, I'd be all over it. The Tascam is very simple and straightforward - clean and quiet too (and it was inexpensive too). But the Fast Track has more features and extra input and MIDI capability, so it's really much better for more in depth recording.

Crap. Now I'm thinking about grabbing one and selling my Tascam. Damn you Musician's Friend!!!

Anyway, to answer your question: according to the web site, it has installs for PC and Mac. But if not (and you use a Mac) it'll go with GB with no issues and it also works with tons of other recording DAW suites/software.
 
For anyone who wants or needs a small, easy, and portable (if necessary) recording solution, musician's Friend's Stupid Deal of the Day is awesome today:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid/

It's the M-Audio Fast Track Pro mobile with Pro Tools SE (though I prefer Garage Band, which this will work with flawlessly) for $99 shipped.

Nice! Just picked one up. Thanks for passing that on. Is Pro Tools SE Mac compatible? I'm assuming it is.

I just picked one up, too :D

My previous interface was absolutely abominable :rollno:
 
Does that look like the MM114? I could be wrong on the type. I posted a picture it on this thread and that seemed to be what everyone thought. After looking at the might might site it looked identicle. I could be wrong though. Is there any way to verify which one I have?

Cableguy I'm betting its the preamp you don't like. Throw a tonepump in there and you will get all the growl you want. They don't make the mm114 anymore if I remember correctly

That's a bummer, I guess I'll need to start saving for that USA Spector 9V pre. :bassist:

I'm betting you're right though. I really like the sound of my Legend 5 with the haz copy.

Cableguy,

Post a pic again of the Pre in your Legend5. So we can confirm what it is.

P.S
The BTS pre is still in the white NS-2A, correct?
Which strings do you have on it now?

Try a Tonepump first before you before you invest in a USA Spector 9V pre.

I am the biggest fan of the Spector 9V pre, but for the price of the Tonepump. $99, You will get plenty of growl.
 
I have new bass day as of yesterday. I got the rebop five I posted a picture of but will do it again. It has the obp1 pre. It sounds absolutely great unplugged with Dunlop nickels. I still have not plugged it in. I was going to play with some friends but got really caught up talking to Jaymi, who by the way is way cool. I like it. It feels good. I can't give the amped report yet, although I could have plugged it in today to my amped portabass 112. It sounds so good acoustically. I like it a lot. I will give a gig report next Saturday night when I get home. I can't wait!
 
For anyone who wants or needs a small, easy, and portable (if necessary) recording solution, musician's Friend's Stupid Deal of the Day is awesome today:

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/stupid/

It's the M-Audio Fast Track Pro mobile with Pro Tools SE (though I prefer Garage Band, which this will work with flawlessly) for $99 shipped.

Nice! Just picked one up. Thanks for passing that on. Is Pro Tools SE Mac compatible? I'm assuming it is.

I just picked one up, too :D

My previous interface was absolutely abominable :rollno:

This is a great deal. What I use to record is just a model step up from this. This will work just as good for sure.

Whoever picks one of these up should be posting some clips soon.

You know how I love sound clips/comparisons. :D :bassist:
 
Here's a link to a website I found a mm114 pic on.

http://www.9mileguitar.com/product.sc?productId=1146

I don't know if they're still available or not. I will also attach a pic from my Legend.

Sam,

The NS2A looks the same as the picture you e-mailed me so I'm assuming it's the same pre. It sounds great, just a little too clean. I also have the same strings on both basses. Roto 66's.
 

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Okay then. This may be easier to adjust than you think. The EMG BT circuit has 2 dip switches on either the treble or bass pot circuit board (it depends on how old it is, but you'll notice it right away). It gives you 4 different options on what you want the center frequency to be on the treble control. You can open the back and change it around until you find something that sounds closer to what you'd like.
Here's the link to the EMG site that explains what frequencies you can choose from on the BTS control (which is the official name of what's in the NS-2A):

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Click on "product data sheet" in the lower right corner of the page to get the .pdf and on the second page there are illustrations showing which dip switch configuration provides which treble frequency center point for the treble pot. This may help get things where you want them to be.

Smadder - thanks for posting this!
I just realized that this is the same pre in my CRFM, so I'm going to have some fun tonight experimenting with the 4 different treble EQ curves.
I love the EMG BT pre - it may not have the low end grunt of the Tone Pump, but what it lacks in low end, it more than makes up for with increased mid & treble articulation.

I really want to buy or build a "Smadder Setup" Euro someday. I think I would really dig the unique tonal differences of your setup, and I wouldn't have to mod any of my existing Spectors - each of which already has a great voice that I'd like to keep intact.
 
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