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SPECTOR® Club - Part 56

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#921
cjmodulus said:
Well guys, my band wants to go to a friend's home studio (he's a production student) to get a decent demo recorded! I'm excited, but I was wondering if anyone has any tips- I'd like to use either the hartke or the MXR DI to add a little bit of grit, but I'm afraid of scooping out my mids (both these pedals seem to have a bit of scoop with their drive modes engaged). It's a metalcore/post hardcore band (I know, not really my thing either, but the dudes in the band are good friends and they let me get away with some cool lines), and a lot f the bands our guitarist listens to are bands that have less-than-audible bass. I really want to be heard on these recordings, since whenever the guitarist is playing chords I'm usually laying down a groove, not just hammering roots.
One option is to just go with a clean sound, which I'm not against, but I'd like to get a little bit of grit if I can.
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do either of the pedals have a dry output? maybe run two channels and mix in a little grit. if it starts to sound phasy and thin though you'll probably have to pick one or the other.
 
#922
iceboxbass said:
You know there's a lot to that. I totally agree with you. When I play my Coda 5XL Jazz bass in a big auditorium, thru the big sound board and huge bass cab, for Sunday morning service, it really is a different animal. It has no problem cutting thru the singers, 2 electric acoustic guitars, keyboard, congas, drum set and total there's 11 people singing in our band. The drummer is the only one not singing. There's 12+ total on stage, depending on the season etc... I seem to be really digging the JJ sound more and more with my Coda. Hmmm...
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I've found that basses - especially Spectors - are like sports cars; you never really know what they are capable of until you run them balls-out.
My experience with my CRFM (with the EMG BT pre) was just the opposite of my NS-2. I loved the way the CRFM sounded at home, and at low volume rehearsals it was laying it down, but the first time I played it loud at a show, it sounded brittle, sterile and harsh compared to my Euro (with non-trim TP).
My CRFM and NS-2 sound almost identical when played acoustically, so I'm hoping a USA 9-volt pre will elevate the sound of that bass to where I want it.
Unfortunately, from the way things are looking, it may be a long time (if ever) before the 9-volt will be available again. I'll give it a few more months, & order a trim TP for the CRFM if the 9-v is still unavailable.
 
#924
cjmodulus said:
They do, I totally forgot about that! Looks like that's the most viable option for now, assuming the phase thing doesn't come into play.
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Not sure what software they'd use to record, but I think most have a phase inversion option. I had to use this recently when I tracked separate tracks from my RBI and U5. Makes a huge difference.
 
#925
Bredian said:
Q5 (Korean Legend predecessor), I think my mistake today was using the "active" input on the amp (paired GK MB115s) during a quick 35 minute outdoor gig w/o PA support (except vocals) as I had a hard time with volume until I cranked up the bridge tone control.

Thoughts. I know, passive pups with active pre. What do you do/suggest. Does your amp have an "active" input or switch?

Learning this bass on the fly (extra string) have played one indoor gig, one indoor all day sound check and this.
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Active are usually just a db cut(ie: -15db) so if that one isn't loud enough then go for the passive.
 
#926
Bring your bass and play it well, because thats what you do. The production guys job is to make it sit in the mix well. You might ask him if he needs you to bring anything other than your bass. (preamps, pedals, amps etc.)

Listen to the production guy, thats my tip.

cjmodulus said:
Well guys, my band wants to go to a friend's home studio (he's a production student) to get a decent demo recorded! I'm excited, but I was wondering if anyone has any tips- I'd like to use either the hartke or the MXR DI to add a little bit of grit, but I'm afraid of scooping out my mids (both these pedals seem to have a bit of scoop with their drive modes engaged). It's a metalcore/post hardcore band (I know, not really my thing either, but the dudes in the band are good friends and they let me get away with some cool lines), and a lot f the bands our guitarist listens to are bands that have less-than-audible bass. I really want to be heard on these recordings, since whenever the guitarist is playing chords I'm usually laying down a groove, not just hammering roots.
One option is to just go with a clean sound, which I'm not against, but I'd like to get a little bit of grit if I can.
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#928
My NS2A has been really a great bass. Lately I have used it for hard rock (AIC, Staind), blues/classic rock (SRV, Clapton, ZZ, etc) and worship (Tomlin, Lincoln Brewster, Hillsong) and it has excelled at everyone. Between the tone knobs, right hand placement, finger or pick it just rules. My playing, not so much, but my tone is great. Thanks to all you Spector guys for putting me on the path last year.:bassist::bassist:

On another note I started taking my Legend 5 apart for a refinish. (thanks to my brother in-law for the paint overspray while painting my house:eyebrow:) While I have the MM114 out of my Legend 5 I'm going to pop it in my NS2A just to see how it sounds. I've been digging the TP but this is about as close to a US 9V as I'm going to get.
 
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#930
iceboxbass said:
I have not played the DC pups yet. All the 5r's I've played so far had either HZs or 40P5/40J or J/J. I'm thinking about going DC/DC or 40P/DC on my NS-20005. DeluucaJohn is one to give you info on the DCs.
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Cool,thanks Ice! Ive been after the Doug tone for awhile,but in a 5string format. Ill figure it out soon,and Im LOVIN my bass's tone,but more of that "PONG" tone that I love on the Stain record.
The USA 18vt is SICKLY clean and punchy,but not having a mid knob to crank up and no graphic eq on my amp (SVT7PRO) has me a little hungry for the "correct punch" in my mid department..I guess Ive been getting it a bit from using my bridge DC on 100% and my neck PU (DC) at 75%
Which is weird,It kinda messes with my brain to not be in the middle of my balance knob,I am a metal bass player,LOL! :D
 
#932
bunkaroo said:
Not sure what software they'd use to record, but I think most have a phase inversion option. I had to use this recently when I tracked separate tracks from my RBI and U5. Makes a huge difference.
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Cool. Ill have to look into it.

Clearwave said:
Bring your bass and play it well, because thats what you do. The production guys job is to make it sit in the mix well. You might ask him if he needs you to bring anything other than your bass. (preamps, pedals, amps etc.)

Listen to the production guy, thats my tip.
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Noted, thanks clearwave. I know I shouldn't be too worried, but I'm afraid that, if this guy listens to the same stuff as my guitarist (think a day to remember and miss may I) he might try to mix our stuff like that, especially if our guitarist mentions them. But I'll do what the guy asks, ultimately he knows more about all this stuff than I do.

cableguy said:
+1
I run my BDDI and a dry out when I record. Gives you choices and/or flexibilty during mix-down if needed.
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Good to know. Looks like I've got some experimenting to do.
 
#934
sethro said:
Cool,thanks Ice! Ive been after the Doug tone for awhile,but in a 5string format. Ill figure it out soon,and Im LOVIN my bass's tone,but more of that "PONG" tone that I love on the Stain record.
The USA 18vt is SICKLY clean and punchy,but not having a mid knob to crank up and no graphic eq on my amp (SVT7PRO) has me a little hungry for the "correct punch" in my mid department..I guess Ive been getting it a bit from using my bridge DC on 100% and my neck PU (DC) at 75%
Which is weird,It kinda messes with my brain to not be in the middle of my balance knob,I am a metal bass player,LOL! :D
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The 18v has a terminal for a mid control, but I have never been able to get answers on find how to aquire one of these.
 
#935
husky123 said:
Speaking of NS 2 tone. This is a very ROUGH edit (non mastered) of one of the tunes we did a few weekends ago. Still some work for the producer to do on it.

On this particular track it's my buckeye NS 2 (walnut back, ebony board) aka,. Big Earl, going into an ADL tube DI to the board. No amp sim, nothing.

Put some headphones on, crank it and give it a whirl.

https://soundcloud.com/husky123/the-end-rough-2013-02-24
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Sounds great Lee, nice tone:bassist:
 
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