A little late on this, but +1. I've yet to hear a clip that's been anything short of awesome from you yet man!
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A little late on this, but +1. I've yet to hear a clip that's been anything short of awesome from you yet man!
- Oct 19, 2010
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- Oct 19, 2010
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- 1,949
- Disclosures
- Endorsing Artist: Spector Bass / Darkglass Electronics / Tsunami Cables
It's kind of weird, actually. I decided to poke around a little tonight. The NS4CRFMs definitely had the matte brass bridges. I took the bridge off and it's heavy as hell so I'm thinking that it came from a CRFM for sure. The later models of these had the crown inlays as well but what's throwing me off is the serial number. The CRFMs had four digit serial numbers. Mine definitely has six, though they're quite illegible and it looks like NB0074. NB was what they used with the Euro4s.
The best I can gather, it's a Euro4 that was modded with the prior gen bridge hardware from a CRFM. Or it's a CRFM that someone messed with the serial number on to make it look newer than it actually is.
I typically enjoy splitting hairs (esp. here) but in this case, it doesn't really bother me all that much either way. The BTS circuit is decent but it will be history as soon at the US9v's become available again.
Besides, it's green. And a Euro. With tube quilted wings. A rare bird indeed. And a keeper, for sure!
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It's kind of weird, actually. I decided to poke around a little tonight. The NS4CRFMs definitely had the matte brass bridges. I took the bridge off and it's heavy as hell so I'm thinking that it came from a CRFM for sure. BTS circuit as well. The later models of these had the crown inlays as well but what's throwing me off is the serial number. The CRFMs had four digit serial numbers. Mine definitely has six, though they're quite illegible and it looks like NB0074. NB was what they used with the Euro4s.
The best I can gather, it's a Euro4 that was modded with the prior gen guts/hardware from a CRFM. Or it's a CRFM that someone messed with the serial number on to make it look newer than it actually is.
I typically enjoy splitting hairs (esp. here) but in this case, it doesn't really bother me all that much either way. The BTS circuit is decent but it will be history as soon at the US9v's become available again.
Besides, it's green. And a Euro. With tube quilted wings. A rare bird indeed. And a keeper, for sure!
Nah, just send it too me
Besides, it's green. And a Euro. With tube quilted wings. A rare bird indeed. And a keeper, for sure!
You got that right!
johnsonabq
Watch out where the huskies go...
It's kind of weird, actually. I decided to poke around a little tonight. The NS4CRFMs definitely had the matte brass bridges. I took the bridge off and it's heavy as hell so I'm thinking that it came from a CRFM for sure. BTS circuit as well. The later models of these had the crown inlays as well but what's throwing me off is the serial number. The CRFMs had four digit serial numbers. Mine definitely has six, though they're quite illegible and it looks like NB0074. NB was what they used with the Euro4s.
The best I can gather, it's a Euro4 that was modded with the prior gen guts/hardware from a CRFM. Or it's a CRFM that someone messed with the serial number on to make it look newer than it actually is.
I typically enjoy splitting hairs (esp. here) but in this case, it doesn't really bother me all that much either way. The BTS circuit is decent but it will be history as soon at the US9v's become available again.
Besides, it's green. And a Euro. With tube quilted wings. A rare bird indeed. And a keeper, for sure!
Purely speculation on my part but I've heard about CRFM's having surprising wood under the paint. You don't usually see Euros these days with that kind of wood. Maybe some kind of transition bass? I don't know. But the BTS circuit and the brass bridge with the gold matte finish are very CRFM. Do you know if that's the original finish? Maybe that's why the serial numbers are so hard to read?
Anyway... Kudos, gorgeous bass!
worshiprocker
Tonepump Junkie
- Aug 12, 2011
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The best I can gather, it's a Euro4 that was modded with the prior gen bridge hardware from a CRFM. Or it's a CRFM that someone messed with the serial number on to make it look newer than it actually is.
Besides, it's green. And a Euro. With tube quilted wings. A rare bird indeed. And a keeper, for sure!
Euro 4s had the same matte brass bridge that the CRFMs had. That tube quilt... that is just simply amazing.
johnsonabq
Watch out where the huskies go...
Euro 4s had the same matte brass bridge that the CRFMs had. That tube quilt... that is just simply amazing.
I thought the Euros had an alloy bridge?
worshiprocker
Tonepump Junkie
- Aug 12, 2011
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The LX models have the alloy bridge. Euros are "basically" CRFMs with inlays. all maple wings, brass bridge.... mine is the same way.
johnsonabq
Watch out where the huskies go...
This is from the Spector website describing the Euro4...
Original NS-Curved Body™
Solid European Maple Wings
Neck-Thru with MOP Crown Inlays
Early Models have Aguilar OBP-1™ 9v Tone Control
2002 First Generation 9v TonePump™ Units Introduced in 2002
Active EMG® Pickups
Schaller Strap Locks™ and Tuners
Gold Hardware - Polished Zinc-Brass Alloy Bridge
Serial Numbers restarted and "NB" added as prefix.
These are two differences from what we're talking about. That's what makes this bass so unique.
worshiprocker
Tonepump Junkie
- Aug 12, 2011
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you are right, I was mistaken. What I can attest to is that the Euro zinc brass alloy bridge is almost identical to the solid brass bridge. I own both, both are killer, although I have solid paint on my CRFM so I'm not sure the top wood grade. My guess is its a really early Euro4 and got some CRFM parts. There are said to be some NS2As that got NS2 parts at the end of the Kramer Era.... some really cool oddball basses out there.
johnsonabq
Watch out where the huskies go...
I do like my NS4CRFM, It's solid black so I don't know what kind of wood it has. Saturday we learned King's X / Over My Head. I ran it through a B3K and it rocked.
I still have to play with the dip switches to see what setting I like on the treble control.
worshiprocker
Tonepump Junkie
- Aug 12, 2011
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I do like my NS4CRFM, It's solid black so I don't know what kind of wood it has. Saturday we learned King's X / Over My Head. I ran it through a B3K and it rocked.
I still have to play with the dip switches to see what setting I like on the treble control.
if/when you get tired of the BT circuit throw a tonepump or obp 2 in there. Love my TP
One of the reasons that Jade became Jade was that the grain was nothing to write home about. Excellent piece of wood sonically though, wouldn't you agree?
johnsonabq
Watch out where the huskies go...
if/when you get tired of the BT circuit throw a tonepump or obp 2 in there. Love my TP
When I can I'm replacing the OBP-3 in my Euro5LX with a 9v and I'll probably put the aggie in the CRFM.
It's kind of weird, actually. I decided to poke around a little tonight. The NS4CRFMs definitely had the matte brass bridges. I took the bridge off and it's heavy as hell so I'm thinking that it came from a CRFM for sure. The later models of these had the crown inlays as well but what's throwing me off is the serial number. The CRFMs had four digit serial numbers. Mine definitely has six, though they're quite illegible and it looks like NB0074. NB was what they used with the Euro4s.
The best I can gather, it's a Euro4 that was modded with the prior gen bridge hardware from a CRFM. Or it's a CRFM that someone messed with the serial number on to make it look newer than it actually is.
I typically enjoy splitting hairs (esp. here) but in this case, it doesn't really bother me all that much either way. The BTS circuit is decent but it will be history as soon at the US9v's become available again.
Besides, it's green. And a Euro. With tube quilted wings. A rare bird indeed. And a keeper, for sure!
Euro 4s had the same matte brass bridge that the CRFMs had. That tube quilt... that is just simply amazing.
All somewhat correct and incorrect if incomplete.
Early Euro4 & 5 basses still had the matte (solid brass, no "alloy") bridge. Mine is NB0508 and still has the matte bridge.
A few extremely early ones still had the previous (NSCRFM) series EMG preamp. The OBP-1 (mine came with this) took over for a short while before the first Tone Pumps came in.
All Euro LX series basses (Early 2004 to present) have the Zinc/Brass "alloy" bridge. Not sure what this "alloy" is as brass has zinc already in it.
Betrayer_Bass
Profanity Fish.
- Sep 24, 2011
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Wrote and recorded a new track last night and today...
Apologies in advance for the Tool fans here
https://soundcloud.com/trailight/now-i-am-become-death
This is really nice! Great work!
I'll paste in my current work in progress (I tried to before but I fail at boards)
https://soundcloud.com/darkspore/bloodstainsv2/s-cEGYI
johnsonabq
Watch out where the huskies go...
All somewhat correct and incorrect if incomplete.
Early Euro4 & 5 basses still had the matte (solid brass, no "alloy") bridge. Mine is NB0508 and still has the matte bridge.
A few extremely early ones still had the previous (NSCRFM) series EMG preamp. The OBP-1 (mine came with this) took over for a short while before the first Tone Pumps came in.
All Euro LX series basses (Early 2004 to present) have the Zinc/Brass "alloy" bridge. Not sure what this "alloy" is as brass has zinc already in it.
That kind of bears out my thought that the bass is a "transition" bass.
I misused the term alloy (as did the Spector website in a way) as brass is already a copper-zinc alloy. There are many different kinds of brass with varying amounts of copper and zinc and even other metals added like nickel, tin, and manganese. I think they are referring to how they just cut down on the cost of the brass bridges by putting more zinc in with the copper since copper is so expensive these days. I think Spector is trying to be honest though in that they let you know that what they call a zinc-brass alloy (Which is still brass, is there a metallurgist out there who can correct me if I'm wrong?) is simply a lighter weight brass and therefore possesses less of the one quality that bridges need, and that's weight.
Maybe Patrick could tell us the reasoning for his use of the term zinc-brass alloy in the Spector website. I suspect that's it.
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