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SPECTOR® Club - Part 68

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Man it looks like I might be keeping my NS2A, no one is biting... o well I guess thats not a bad thing.

You need to work on your patience Donny. LOL ;)

As soon as my NS-5XL gets here I'll be putting my Euro5LX up for sale too. But like we were talking about in the previous thread, I won't "firesale" it. I'll just sit and wait. Of course any of you guys are free to PM me for the "club" price on anything I have up for sale. :D
 
OK......I got the 94 SSD that Jeff had that was Jaymi's at one point.....
Awesome bass.
BTW, Jeff is a perfect guy to deal with.

Anyway, truss rod broke.
No biggie right? They pull right out and all is right in the world because a new one slips right in....

Not in my case.

Somewhere down the line prior to ownership on TB by anyone, someone knew the truss rod was busted and did a hackjob repair. Which held up and allowed the truss rod to function for a while, but it was doomed to fail. (why someone didn't spend the $20 for a new one from the onset escapes me.......)

What they did was grind down a hex nut to fit in the channel to put pressure against the rod.
Well, the nut fractured and over time with adjustments being made to it, the pieces embedded themselves into the wood.

Also, because it's a 94, it has the brass capped truss rod (this is where the issue started).
If you look at the attached pic of the truss rod (with the circles).....the blue line is where the brass block split. The part with the yellow circle now lives where the red circle is.
And both are wedged into the channel because of the afore-mentioned "fix" with the ground down hex nut.

I talked to PJ and was going to send it back to Spector, but PJ knew a few guys here in town so I decided to try and get it taken care of locally.

So, as it sits right now....well, looking like the fingerboard may have to be removed to get all that crap out and a new rod put in.
The shop is reluctant to do any further "digging" to try and get anything out at this point.

I need to stress, Jeff had no idea, and I'm pretty Jamyi and Brett didn't even know this was an issue when they had it. Because the truss rod did function for the most part.
I was just the lucky SOB that it finally bought the farm on!! LOL!!!

So, take a look at the pics and I'll post more up if the shop takes any.

Fun times!!! LOL!!!!:bassist:
 

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A few more........

I took a small pick and was able to remove some of the fractured hex nut......Actually, I think someone stacked two in there.

But as you can see in the "clean" channel pic, the piece(s) that are wedged in there.
 

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Oh, not sure, if I posted this, but I took a 4 1/2" long 5/16" shoulder bolt and drilled/tapped the end to 10-32 (the pitch of the threads on the truss rod) to use as a puller.
It obviously won't work for my case (or the shop).
But if anyone ever needs to borrow it, shoot me your address and I'll send it along to you.
Might as well have it aailable for people to use if they need it.....
 

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I would like your thoughts on tuning:

A while back I tuned a 5 string to D standard (DGCFA#) vs B-G. I really liked that tuning but most of the guys I play with tune E standard.

Last year I bought an Eventide Pitchfactor on TB (got a good deal), and I am so happy I did.
I can tune up or down chromatically with the turn of a knob. With the blend set 100% wet, it sounds pure, too. I never touch my tuning keys, unless it's to tune my bass.
When my guitarists drop-tune, I drop to their low note, in standard tuning, using the PitchFactor. It makes life much easier.
 
Last year I bought an Eventide Pitchfactor on TB (got a good deal), and I am so happy I did.
I can tune up or down chromatically with the turn of a knob. With the blend set 100% wet, it sounds pure, too. I never touch my tuning keys, unless it's to tune my bass.
When my guitarists drop-tune, I drop to their low note, in standard tuning, using the PitchFactor. It makes life much easier.

Interesting. I like tuning in D standard because I like the low D and I really like the feel/tension of the strings. So this pedal could put the bass in standard tuning even though I've got it tuned D standard?
 
I suspect FoCo is the Fort Collins area. I lived in the mountains above Jamestown (in the Bar-K Ranch area between Jamestown and Ward) and went to high school in Nederland. I still have family in Boulder. Lots of devastation in those areas with all the flooding. Prayers go out to our bass brothers and sisters and all others in the area.
Amen...such horrible flooding.
Funny... I go to bump my NS4CR for sale and while I'm there I decide to show some love to all the basses you guys have there. Then I realize I just put all your basses above mine on the first page! I gotta get my act together. LOL :bassist:
Got ya this morning brother:D...hang in there.
I went from 4 to 5 to 4 to... 6string

might get a bit confusing... so please re-read lol

I didnt really have an issue making the switch.

My situation might be different because my
// 4 strings were tuned A D G C
// 5 string was C F Bb Eb Ab.

so.. my 4 was dropped a whole step from B E A D
and my 5 was dropped two steps from E A D G C

in theory now I have the range I was using before with ONE bass rather than 2. :hiding:

I never learned scales by "note names" but rather shapes... mainly because for the majority of the time i wasnt in "standard" tuning.

In bands ive been in... we all still call out an open low notes B E A D G C and whatever... but it doesnt mean its actually a B... its just easier to call out stuff.
Since I've learned to play 6 string guitar, I can watch the lead guitar to see what notes/cords that he's moving to.
Well my bass is tuned B-E-A-D-G and my 6 string guitars are tuned like 7 stringed instruments. B-E-A-D-G-B (there's usually an e here, but not on my guitars) so it mimics the bass exactly.
It's usual play and go with chrods, only the top string is different, unlike standard E tuning where strings 1 and 2 are tuned slightly differently :)

Plays great!
Cool, thanks! But did you have to learn different fingering positions for compound cords strumming on your guitar? As standard finger patterns wouldn't work for the changed tuning.
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In with a NS2-JJ Watercured Redwood that I recently got from Sam.
Sooooooooooooooooooooooooo jealous:D I want one in a 5r down the road soon. :bassist:
Oh, not sure, if I posted this, but I took a 4 1/2" long 5/16" shoulder bolt and drilled/tapped the end to 10-32 (the pitch of the threads on the truss rod) to use as a puller.
It obviously won't work for my case (or the shop).
But if anyone ever needs to borrow it, shoot me your address and I'll send it along to you.
Might as well have it aailable for people to use if they need it.....
Sorry to hear about that mess...kudo's on your engineering of the extractor. That is very cool...hope I never need it. :ninja:
Last year I bought an Eventide Pitchfactor on TB (got a good deal), and I am so happy I did.
I can tune up or down chromatically with the turn of a knob. With the blend set 100% wet, it sounds pure, too. I never touch my tuning keys, unless it's to tune my bass.
When my guitarists drop-tune, I drop to their low note, in standard tuning, using the PitchFactor. It makes life much easier.
Very cool:bassist:
 
hehe, I'm going to be doing this swap when my bass comes back from the shop. TP to BQC, that is.

The stock non-trim TonePump that would have been in that bass is a 2-band EQ and was VERY harsh, IMO. The newer TPs have a trim pot to control the output gain and they're much better at having an even and less harsh output.

I found that even running it at 18V with active pickups, it was still too much for my amp to handle without the dB drop and a limiter. :(

I'm hoping the BQC will do what I need it to and make it a better sounding bass with more control.

Thank you for the info, the BQC in mine is 18v and works great with my amp don't have to mess with input or master volume.
 
OK......I got the 94 SSD that Jeff had that was Jaymi's at one point.....
Awesome bass.
BTW, Jeff is a perfect guy to deal with.

Anyway, truss rod broke.
No biggie right? They pull right out and all is right in the world because a new one slips right in....

Not in my case.

Somewhere down the line prior to ownership on TB by anyone, someone knew the truss rod was busted and did a hackjob repair. Which held up and allowed the truss rod to function for a while, but it was doomed to fail. (why someone didn't spend the $20 for a new one from the onset escapes me.......)

What they did was grind down a hex nut to fit in the channel to put pressure against the rod.
Well, the nut fractured and over time with adjustments being made to it, the pieces embedded themselves into the wood.

Also, because it's a 94, it has the brass capped truss rod (this is where the issue started).
If you look at the attached pic of the truss rod (with the circles).....the blue line is where the brass block split. The part with the yellow circle now lives where the red circle is.
And both are wedged into the channel because of the afore-mentioned "fix" with the ground down hex nut.

I talked to PJ and was going to send it back to Spector, but PJ knew a few guys here in town so I decided to try and get it taken care of locally.

So, as it sits right now....well, looking like the fingerboard may have to be removed to get all that crap out and a new rod put in.
The shop is reluctant to do any further "digging" to try and get anything out at this point.

I need to stress, Jeff had no idea, and I'm pretty Jamyi and Brett didn't even know this was an issue when they had it. Because the truss rod did function for the most part.
I was just the lucky SOB that it finally bought the farm on!! LOL!!!

So, take a look at the pics and I'll post more up if the shop takes any.

Fun times!!! LOL!!!!:bassist:

Looks like you're in the same boat as my ReBop. :( We're currently lifting the fingerboard, so we can cut & pull the rod.

Dang Mike! What's that repair gonna end up costing?

Hopefully not any more than I'm paying to have the same work done to my 'Bop.
 
Last year I bought an Eventide Pitchfactor on TB (got a good deal), and I am so happy I did.
I can tune up or down chromatically with the turn of a knob. With the blend set 100% wet, it sounds pure, too. I never touch my tuning keys, unless it's to tune my bass.
When my guitarists drop-tune, I drop to their low note, in standard tuning, using the PitchFactor. It makes life much easier.

That would mess with my head! The resonance of my bass in my hand wouldn't match what the note coming out of the PA/Amp was!
 
hehe, I'm going to be doing this swap when my bass comes back from the shop. TP to BQC, that is.

The stock non-trim TonePump that would have been in that bass is a 2-band EQ and was VERY harsh, IMO. The newer TPs have a trim pot to control the output gain and they're much better at having an even and less harsh output.

I found that even running it at 18V with active pickups, it was still too much for my amp to handle without the dB drop and a limiter. :(

I'm hoping the BQC will do what I need it to and make it a better sounding bass with more control.

Out of all the Spectors Euros I've owned, the one that has been around the longest is the one I put a BQC in. I really like it. I have really grown to appreciate the Tone Pump, but I think I prefer the blend and mid control on the BQC.
 
Last year I bought an Eventide Pitchfactor on TB (got a good deal), and I am so happy I did.
I can tune up or down chromatically with the turn of a knob. With the blend set 100% wet, it sounds pure, too. I never touch my tuning keys, unless it's to tune my bass.
When my guitarists drop-tune, I drop to their low note, in standard tuning, using the PitchFactor. It makes life much easier.

Very interesting - I'd be interested to hear some clips, especially of how it might handle a low B to say Bb or A.
 
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