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Spector Club - Part 11

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metallicafan18 said:
Got a question for you diehard Spector guys. I am going to check out a Spector bass tomorrow to trade my Rickenbacker 4001 for. Here is what I know about the bass:

The bass is an 88 or an 89. It was made as the Kramer era was going out of business. The cnc body is an NS2A, which would be the import, but the rest of the parts (Neck, electronics, hardware) are all US. The bass is all black, including the hardware. The neck is rosewood with the tomahawk inlays, brass nut, PJ pickups, HAZ-Lab EQ. The guy I am buying from is a member here and he seems to know his stuff, but I just wanted to get some other opinions on this bass. He said there are about 50 or so of these transitions made that he knows of. Anybody else have one or know anything about these?

Thanks!

Unless you are getting a huge chuck of cash back that's not a good deal .... I think most of us feel like the ns2a with factory inlays are worth about 4-600 maybe more or less depending on condition ...
 
jarrod cunningham said:
Unless you are getting a huge chuck of cash back that's not a good deal .... I think most of us feel like the ns2a with factory inlays are worth about 4-600 maybe more or less depending on condition ...

+1! I just sold mine on here 2 weeks ago, in close to excellent condition, for less.
 
Hello all you spector guys,

I have a question about euro lx black hardware. When you choose an option to have black hardware on euro lx basses, bridge is not brass but aluminum and nut is plastic or aluminum too. How does this affect the sound of the basses?

The black nuts on the Euro Models are carbon/composite (which is like a plastic) material.

I actually put one back on my Euro4LX-TW-35 recently. I just liked it better on that bass for some reason. Can't say why.
 
So even owners of current Lefty Euro's can't retro fit this new bridge?!?

Is the new "Righty" version going to be "larger" also, so that current Euro's can't be retro fit with it either?! :eyebrow:

FWIW, it should be for sale. Trace and I are both members of the Dremel Club.

Correct... owners of older "Lefty" versions cannot fit this bridge. It appears to be something that was done for Robbie Merrill and because the effort was put into place at the factory to do it, it'll be the new "Stock" bridge.

As for the up-coming new Euro-Standard Right Hand bridges with Intonation screws.

Yes. They are coming.

No they will not be larger and WILL fit any past SPECTOR Euro model.

Unlike the new Lefty bridge THEY WILL NOT BE A FACTORY option.

Here's the deal. To make them work correctly, the Czech shop would have to create new dies, and basically go to a larger bridge system. And Stuart and PJ were against changing anything that would exclude people. So after playing with some current Euro bridges back at the USA shop, they found a way to machine the screws themselves without having to recast the bridges.

SO HERE IS THE DEAL. They are working on figuring out how much the retrofit will cost. Meaning what are they going to charge for it.

But the fact is that shortly, all of you will be able to order a Euro Bridge in any configuration (4-string, 5-string, 6-string, black or gold) that will have custom intonation screws set in it from the NY Shop. They will ONLY be available on the SPECTOR wesbite in the online store and will not be "standard" on the factory Euro models. It's almost like a factory aftermarket mod.

They work really well. Are stable and durable. So once a couple of other things gets worked out. I'll let you all know pricing and when they will be available.

I spoke with PJ this morning about it and it will be very soon.

Perhaps right after Summer NAMM in a couple of weeks in Nashville.
 
False description .... hard to say but I'd ask for partial refund or file a claim with your CC company. Seller has an obligation to accurately describe item or be ready for the repercussions.


Seller finally responded and was surprise because her husband was playing it. She offered a full refund.....might see if she'd do a credit...
 
Correct... owners of older "Lefty" versions cannot fit this bridge. It appears to be something that was done for Robbie Merrill and because the effort was put into place at the factory to do it, it'll be the new "Stock" bridge.

As for the up-coming new Euro-Standard Right Hand bridges with Intonation screws.

Yes. They are coming.

No they will not be larger and WILL fit any past SPECTOR Euro model.

Unlike the new Lefty bridge THEY WILL NOT BE A FACTORY option.

Here's the deal. To make them work correctly, the Czech shop would have to create new dies, and basically go to a larger bridge system. And Stuart and PJ were against changing anything that would exclude people. So after playing with some current Euro bridges back at the USA shop, they found a way to machine the screws themselves without having to recast the bridges.

SO HERE IS THE DEAL. They are working on figuring out how much the retrofit will cost. Meaning what are they going to charge for it.

But the fact is that shortly, all of you will be able to order a Euro Bridge in any configuration (4-string, 5-string, 6-string, black or gold) that will have custom intonation screws set in it from the NY Shop. They will ONLY be available on the SPECTOR wesbite in the online store and will not be "standard" on the factory Euro models. It's almost like a factory aftermarket mod.

They work really well. Are stable and durable. So once a couple of other things gets worked out. I'll let you all know pricing and when they will be available.

I spoke with PJ this morning about it and it will be very soon.

Perhaps right after Summer NAMM in a couple of weeks in Nashville.
All this is just par for the course in adding to the constant Spector model/option confusion (Geeze guys, c'mon?!). If a new righty bridge is made available, current lefties will just be able to switch the saddles around without the hassle of dealing with the larger (???) lefty bridge....which won't be available as a retro fit anyway. :eyebrow:

This is all confusing to me as adding intonation screws to the current Euro bridge would not be "brain surgery". Especially if done during production rather than a mod/retro fit. Like you said, Stuart and PJ have already figured it out. So why couldn't the Czech guys?

Why didn't the Czech guys (if they're going to cast a new bridge) put both height screws at the front of the saddles like the current (updated) USA intonation screw bridge? The intonation screw already supports the back end of the saddle so puting both height screws upfront is a much more stable design. This is why it was changed on the USA bridges. The "kitty corner" screw configuration is one of the major contributors to the Spector bridge being so hard to work with. It is not a stable design. It's a balancing act. (Sorry, but this has been one of my engineering pet peeves about the Spector bridge for 20+ years.) They got it right (finally) with the USA bridge. Why not follow up?

If I was Mr. Merrill, I'd be scrapping that bridge, getting a USA replacement ("Righty" if need be. Swap the saddles around. Spector nor anybody needs to produce a "left handed" bridge. Who cares what side of the saddle the intonation screw is on. This was totally unneeded. :scowl:) and telling my tech to get the dremel tool out.

This is all silliness. The saddles can be switched. A "lefty" bridge was never needed, much less a larger one.
There just seems to be a lot of design logic that falls through the cracks over at Spector. :hmm:

This isn't aimed at you JPS. You're just relaying what you're given.
This is just me thinking very out load. There's been a lot of head scratching stuff come from Spector over my 20+ years of using them.
Ultimately I prefer the NS bass to anything else, but they could be so much better if a little more design/implementation logic were involved.
Yes, Warwick's designs are very plagiaristic. But they're greater popularity could come from the fact that they don't seem to make a lot of head scratching moves like this. Just sayin'.......
 
It's here!
legend 5 classic bough right here on the classifieds. big tip of the hat to fellow TBer cyclomatic. Great guy to work with.

Unfortunately, something happened to the finish on the neck. It wasn't present when the seller had it, which leads me to believe the bass sustained an injury during shipping (although how I don't know, he packed it REALLY well).
There's a rough patch on the G string side between frets 2 and 4. I don't notice it while playing, but I don't want it to become an issue.
So my question is; what kind of finish is used on the necks of the legend series? I'm taking the bass to a friend to get it set up soon and I'm gonna have him take a look at the neck.
Thanks in advance.
Edit: just realized the pic of the neck is a tad blurry. Sorry about that.
so yeah, seems like this post might have been looked over by you Spector club regulars. so 2 things;
1) I'd like to put in a # request.
2) anyone know what i can do to fix the finish on the neck? So far I'm really liking the bass, but the rough spot on the back of the neck concerns me. Is there anyway to remedy this so It doesn't become a problem?
thanks in advance.
 
Yes, Warwick's designs are very plagiaristic. But they're greater popularity could come from the fact that they don't seem to make a lot of head scratching moves like this. Just sayin'.......

That Spector Euro bridge is the reason I bought a Warwick Streamer instead of a Spector NS 4 string. I'm not big on those 'floating' saddles. :hiding:

However I LOVE the Hipshot bridge on my USA Spector NS-5. It's perfection.

My dream bass? A USA Spector with a Jazz neck, MM pickup at the bridge. Neck pickup not important. Maybe a P/MM combo would be killer!
 
cjmodulus said:
so yeah, seems like this post might have been looked over by you Spector club regulars. so 2 things;
1) I'd like to put in a # request.
2) anyone know what i can do to fix the finish on the neck? So far I'm really liking the bass, but the rough spot on the back of the neck concerns me. Is there anyway to remedy this so It doesn't become a problem?
thanks in advance.

Can't tell anything from your pics , take some better ones , repost and let's see hr we can do to help u ...
 
That Spector Euro bridge is the reason I bought a Warwick Streamer instead of a Spector NS 4 string. I'm not big on those 'floating' saddles. :hiding:

However I LOVE the Hipshot bridge on my USA Spector NS-5. It's perfection.

My dream bass? A USA Spector with a Jazz neck, MM pickup at the bridge. Neck pickup not important. Maybe a P/MM combo would be killer!
Yes, "Floating". That's an excellent way to describe it.
When I first saw the Spectors with the Hipshot bridges, I was highly hopeful of a company wide change as the Hipshot is an excellent high mass bridge that is much easier to work with and far more adjustable and stable, but......alas. :(
 
Seller finally responded and was surprise because her husband was playing it. She offered a full refund.....might see if she'd do a credit...

If you can get $150 back then I think that would be worth it.

If this helps with your decision.
Last night I ordered a new NS-2A nut from AJ at [email protected]
$20 for Brass. Its already in the mail on its way.

And there is a AGUILAR OBP-3 pre-amp for sale in the TB accessories Classified section. http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f129/sale-aguilar-obp-3-w-3pots-2-switches-786345/
(I have zero knowledge on compatible pre-amps...would this would this work in your NS-2A?)
 
jarrod cunningham said:
Can't tell anything from your pics , take some better ones , repost and let's see hr we can do to help u ...

Argh. Can't get it into focus. But it kind of feels like a patch of 'roughness' - can't describe it better than that. The bass had to sit in a few different warehouses over the weekend it was shipped. It seems to me like part of the finish melted to the plastic material around it. It wasn't stuck to anything when I opened it, however.
Would it be a good idea to just refinish the neck? Anyone know what kind of finish the legends have on the necks?
 
Argh. Can't get it into focus. But it kind of feels like a patch of 'roughness' - can't describe it better than that. The bass had to sit in a few different warehouses over the weekend it was shipped. It seems to me like part of the finish melted to the plastic material around it. It wasn't stuck to anything when I opened it, however.
Would it be a good idea to just refinish the neck? Anyone know what kind of finish the legends have on the necks?

Trace,
Please help Mr. cjmodulus with his Spector club number
(he posted pics a page or 2 back)
and help with his question about his legend neck.

cjmodulus, Can you take a photo of the neck blemish further away so it is in focus and then it can be zoomed in with a photo program?
 
Trace,
Please help Mr. cjmodulus with his Spector club number
(he posted pics a page or 2 back)
and help with his question about his legend neck.

cjmodulus, Can you take a photo of the neck blemish further away so it is in focus and then it can be zoomed in with a photo program?

will get on it in the morning. well, later in the morning. I should probably log off and get some sleep.
also, i watched your spector story video. very inspiring. I'm glad you're still playing music and getting as much enjoyment out of it as you can. wish you all the best.
 
so yeah, seems like this post might have been looked over by you Spector club regulars. so 2 things;
1) I'd like to put in a # request.
2) anyone know what i can do to fix the finish on the neck? So far I'm really liking the bass, but the rough spot on the back of the neck concerns me. Is there anyway to remedy this so It doesn't become a problem?
thanks in advance.
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If you can get $150 back then I think that would be worth it.

If this helps with your decision.
Last night I ordered a new NS-2A nut from AJ at [email protected]
$20 for Brass. Its already in the mail on its way.

And there is a AGUILAR OBP-3 pre-amp for sale in the TB accessories Classified section. http://www.talkbass.com/forum/f129/sale-aguilar-obp-3-w-3pots-2-switches-786345/
(I have zero knowledge on compatible pre-amps...would this would this work in your NS-2A?)


Are his nuts :hiding: ready to drop in or are they blanks?
 
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