wow... i totally missed the new thread post... haha
LOVE then new site
Cool. You and your Rex5 are there big as day.
And listened to your demo. You're wicked dude. Awesome playing.
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Spector Club Part 6
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Cool. You and your Rex5 are there big as day.
And listened to your demo. You're wicked dude. Awesome playing.
SITE UPDATE:
Still going through and recoding the special symbols. The world-wide web is run by an organization called the W3. It sets the standards for what is and is not allowed regarding the programming standards of HTML, the main programming language.
They added the support for "Special Symbols" a year or two ago... meaning using symbols like ™ and ®, which for legal reasons are all over the website.
Before this was supported, these symbols were code-level tags such as ™ and ® so the code for "SPECTOR®" would be SPECTOR® not SPECTOR with the symbol in the code.
Well... the site was developed on a private server (my server) in a non-public domain. That way everything could stay private. My server is state-of-the-art and I pay $$$ to my co-location/server management company to ensure this. The actual SPECTOR domain is hosted with a good associate and old friend of SPECTOR's and although this server is more than OK to handle the new site, security, etc... this server hasn't been updated to support special symbols.
So imagine all of our surpise when we uploaded the site and none of the symbols were visible. It's OK... perhaps most of you didn't even notice it. But since this is a code-level issue and I don't use a WYSIWYG editor... I code by hand. It's taking some time to get all 200+ pages updated. Which has set back the artist galleries.
I am, with the help of many of you, fixing little issues along the way. The occasional typo... Wrong information on some of the guitar spec pages (especially in regards to things like pickups, etc..)
Please be patient with us as PJ, Stuart and I go through the site and correct these things. PJ and I have looked at it so many times that we sometimes don't see some of the errors because we're looking for something else. And it's honestly the truth that our brains (all of us) will try to "fill in the blanks" in many instances.
The bottom line is that this site is only going to grow and get better over time. Your help, my faithful fellow die-hard SPECTOR evangelists, is very important to us.
I want to thank all of you personally for the assistance you've given in emailing me issues you've come across. And I am always available regarding things you might come across, a link that doesn't work, or graphic that doesn't load... these things are important.
My email address is [email protected] Please do not hesitate to use it.
Keep checking the site for changes and remember, from time-to-time clear your cache to see these changes.
Just hold the "Alt" or "Apple" key down on your keyboard and while holding it, press the "page refresh" or "page reload" button in your web browser with your mouse. This should load a fresh un-cached version of whatever page you are viewing at the time.
Thanks again!
JP
Still going through and recoding the special symbols. The world-wide web is run by an organization called the W3. It sets the standards for what is and is not allowed regarding the programming standards of HTML, the main programming language.
They added the support for "Special Symbols" a year or two ago... meaning using symbols like ™ and ®, which for legal reasons are all over the website.
Before this was supported, these symbols were code-level tags such as ™ and ® so the code for "SPECTOR®" would be SPECTOR® not SPECTOR with the symbol in the code.
Well... the site was developed on a private server (my server) in a non-public domain. That way everything could stay private. My server is state-of-the-art and I pay $$$ to my co-location/server management company to ensure this. The actual SPECTOR domain is hosted with a good associate and old friend of SPECTOR's and although this server is more than OK to handle the new site, security, etc... this server hasn't been updated to support special symbols.
So imagine all of our surpise when we uploaded the site and none of the symbols were visible. It's OK... perhaps most of you didn't even notice it. But since this is a code-level issue and I don't use a WYSIWYG editor... I code by hand. It's taking some time to get all 200+ pages updated. Which has set back the artist galleries.
I am, with the help of many of you, fixing little issues along the way. The occasional typo... Wrong information on some of the guitar spec pages (especially in regards to things like pickups, etc..)
Please be patient with us as PJ, Stuart and I go through the site and correct these things. PJ and I have looked at it so many times that we sometimes don't see some of the errors because we're looking for something else. And it's honestly the truth that our brains (all of us) will try to "fill in the blanks" in many instances.
The bottom line is that this site is only going to grow and get better over time. Your help, my faithful fellow die-hard SPECTOR evangelists, is very important to us.
I want to thank all of you personally for the assistance you've given in emailing me issues you've come across. And I am always available regarding things you might come across, a link that doesn't work, or graphic that doesn't load... these things are important.
My email address is [email protected] Please do not hesitate to use it.
Keep checking the site for changes and remember, from time-to-time clear your cache to see these changes.
Just hold the "Alt" or "Apple" key down on your keyboard and while holding it, press the "page refresh" or "page reload" button in your web browser with your mouse. This should load a fresh un-cached version of whatever page you are viewing at the time.
Thanks again!
JP
Yeah, I'm wordy but I believe in being thorough. I figured it might help you guys understand what the deal is.
And yes. I did get your message, sorry for not responding.
If you'll clear your browser's cache and re-check that page you'll find that it has been corrected! Thanks!
I've got a Euro 4 (not LX) with Aguilar pre for sale in the TB classifieds:
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=682852
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=682852
phatbastard,
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680230&highlight=spector
So, Euro 4 vs Euro 4LX
Solid body wings? Does that mean older Euro 4s have solid body wings and the LX's don't?
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=680230&highlight=spector
So, Euro 4 vs Euro 4LX
Solid body wings? Does that mean older Euro 4s have solid body wings and the LX's don't?
Ok, so according to the new model history, what kind of spector i have? 
ssd, european made, active emg's, emg-bts preamp, dot pearl markers, not flamed maple.
ssd, european made, active emg's, emg-bts preamp, dot pearl markers, not flamed maple.
That's easy (don't need the site for this oneOk, so according to the new model history, what kind of spector i have?
ssd, european made, active emg's, emg-bts preamp, dot pearl markers, not flamed maple.
).An early NS4CR. They added FM (NS*CRFM) to the opaque finishes as it stood for "Figured Maple".
ALL Euro4 or Euro5's, as well as any NSCR's have solid body wings. The LX's are ALL laminated.
Euro's were only from 2001 to 2003 (between the NSCR's and Euro LX's). Euro LX's took over in 2004.
Here are my Spectors:
The black one is an NS-2A. The other is a Euro 4LX in Ultra Amber Burst with a quilted maple top rather than the flame maple more commonly seen on the Euros.
Brighter lighting on this one... the old 2A shows it's age a bit more.
If you look closely at the fretboard of the 2A, you can see that I had just removed a set of those 'inlay stickers' you can buy on e-bay. The adhesive had actually removed some of the worn-in grunge from the fingerboard. I have since cleaned the entire board with Gerlitz Guitar Honey, so those shadows are gone.
Can I get a number?
The black one is an NS-2A. The other is a Euro 4LX in Ultra Amber Burst with a quilted maple top rather than the flame maple more commonly seen on the Euros.
Brighter lighting on this one... the old 2A shows it's age a bit more.
If you look closely at the fretboard of the 2A, you can see that I had just removed a set of those 'inlay stickers' you can buy on e-bay. The adhesive had actually removed some of the worn-in grunge from the fingerboard. I have since cleaned the entire board with Gerlitz Guitar Honey, so those shadows are gone.
Can I get a number?
Phat knows his stuff.
And PJ and I are eventually going to work on a matrix for the site because the way the model names change with Spector over time doesn't usually coincide with changes in the options. So the big changes in the Euro or CR models had to do with major things like moving from solid paint to stains... NS4CR to NS4CR-FM (FM stands for Figured Maple... with any Spector Model). The change to the NS4CR-FM to Euro4 had to do with adding the MOP Crown inlays to the neck and then again the move from solid maple wings to the sandwich wings now was the Euro4 to the Euro4LX...
The weird stuff is that many other features changed in the middle of these model's production runs. Like the TonePump with the Euro4... That model started out with the Aguilar and then a year or so into its production run the Tonepump was added.
There is a philosophy at Spector that a change in options doesn't necessary mean the model with the changed or new options should be a different or new model from what it is or has been. It's just got new options or features.
I think that substancial reworking of a model requires so that you don't confuse the newly reworked and significantly different model with the previous that it be named something new or different.
And PJ and I are eventually going to work on a matrix for the site because the way the model names change with Spector over time doesn't usually coincide with changes in the options. So the big changes in the Euro or CR models had to do with major things like moving from solid paint to stains... NS4CR to NS4CR-FM (FM stands for Figured Maple... with any Spector Model). The change to the NS4CR-FM to Euro4 had to do with adding the MOP Crown inlays to the neck and then again the move from solid maple wings to the sandwich wings now was the Euro4 to the Euro4LX...
The weird stuff is that many other features changed in the middle of these model's production runs. Like the TonePump with the Euro4... That model started out with the Aguilar and then a year or so into its production run the Tonepump was added.
There is a philosophy at Spector that a change in options doesn't necessary mean the model with the changed or new options should be a different or new model from what it is or has been. It's just got new options or features.
I think that substancial reworking of a model requires so that you don't confuse the newly reworked and significantly different model with the previous that it be named something new or different.
Here are my Spectors:
The black one is an NS-2A. The other is a Euro 4LX in Ultra Amber Burst with a quilted maple top rather than the flame maple more commonly seen on the Euros.
Brighter lighting on this one... the old 2A shows it's age a bit more.
If you look closely at the fretboard of the 2A, you can see that I had just removed a set of those 'inlay stickers' you can buy on e-bay. The adhesive had actually removed some of the worn-in grunge from the fingerboard. I have since cleaned the entire board with Gerlitz Guitar Honey, so those shadows are gone.
Can I get a number?
Very Nice. Love the NS-2A... have a black one myself. And your Euro4LX. Very nice. It's basically the Wimbish finish, minus the 1.5" nut and narrow neck. Very cool.
I don't give out numbers... you may have to wait a bit, but eventually you get one.
Anyway. Welcome to the family. You have some very nice Spectors!
If I'm understanding you correctly, this isn't accurate.
The adding of the MOP Crown inlays was in 1999 sometime while still NSCR's.
It was at the same time that the 5's became 35" scale and the Double S logo returned (I know, I bought a couple when this change happened).
The only changes that seemed to occure when 2001 rolled around and they became "Euro*" was the serial numbers started over with NB in front of them (NB****) and the Aguilar pre amp began to be used (not for long though).
If I'm understanding you correctly, this isn't accurate.
The adding of the MOP Crown inlays was in 1999 sometime while still NSCR's.
It was at the same time that the 5's became 35" scale and the Double S logo returned (I know, I bought a couple when this change happened).
The only changes that seemed to occure when 2001 rolled around and they became "Euro*" was the serial numbers started over with NB in front of them (NB****) and the Aguilar pre amp began to be used (not for long though).
True. Which is the reason for the matrix PJ and I have been talking about. My mistake... I have a tendency to think about the major visual changes between the models. That's how I've had to learn them to keep them straight.
The numbers did start over and the aguilar was also put in. But the MOP inlays which had just started right before the model name change was the major cosmetic difference, the serials and circuit... you can't see that. When you look at the NS4/5CR-FM models as a whole, the majority are dot neck (which is why we went with dot neck photos to represent that model).
The info on the site, which is directly from PJ and approved by him and Stuart prior to the site going live states that later models of the CR-FM series had the MOP...
This is why we know that the past models section is going to have some flaws until we can drill down and sort of explain the changes more as they happened and not necessarily as the model names changed. If that makes sense. Many times there are some cross-overs... or in-between units that are made.
It'll come in time. I think because so many people do care about the details and of course most people who get older Spectors and fall in love with them like most of us have, want to know what exactly they've fallen in love with.
So we're asking people to be patient because the past models section is more about generalities by majority (of the models as described). Because there are in almost every Spector Imports model run some off shoot or between model oddities that really don't fit what the "official" description says. So what are they really?
That's really the best explanation I have. I don't think that PJ or anyone at Spector wants to re-write the model histories, but in trying to clarify what the major changes were visually (because we wanted to use photos) between identifiable models the occasional "yeah but what about this..." is unavoidable. At least with the Czech and some Korean basses.
Solid wings were made out of one peice of maple from front to back while the sandwich wings have a maple top and alder back with aa slice of walnut inbetween.
Solid wings are just that. One solid chunk of wood, carved into a wing, either upper or lower. The wings are cut from the same boards so the pattern of the maple figuring matches from upper to lower.
In the LX modes three layers of separate types of wood.
Alder in the back, a thin slice of walnut in the center, and Maple on the top, are sandwiched and pressure bonded together to make the chunk of wood that is carved into the wing. So it's not a single, solid board that's been shaped, it's three separate boards bonded together that have been shaped.
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