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squire vs fender
- Thread starter svestheday001
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It's like a Fender is SAE threads, but you don't have a nut in that spacing, so you grab a Metric nut, (Squier) and force that to work.
Matter o' fact, my Fender Standard Strat is excellent. And it is a world of difference better than my Mexican Squier Strat (yes, mexican Squier). The Squier is ok, but now after a few years the pots are so scratchy I can't play it. It also develops static when playing. The tuners suck, too. Great neck on it, though, but the fret ends are WAYYY too sharp.
Ya get what ya pay for, IMO.
They are not even comparable in terms of quality (and price) anybody that cannot tell the difference between playing a Squier and a Fender is either kidding themselves or just that ignorant of what to look for in a proper playing machine. You can get the tone close with a pickup swap but actually playing both with your own hands they are going to be two different beasts. As a previous poster said,it is especially noticeable in the fretwork, Squiers all have sharp fret edges.
EDIT: Just realized the date on this thread... why did you feel the need to revive this eian?
Food for thought, even your 8 year old Squier isn't as old as this thread....
Ummm.... allot of bad/wrong information here about Squiers but hey it is your opinion.
Way to resurrect a 10 year old zombie thread!
IMO when this thread was started there was a big difference between the quality of Squire and Fender. Now not so much. The Squire CV and VM lines are very nice instruments for the money and lots of people are using them as their main gigging basses.
IMO when this thread was started there was a big difference between the quality of Squire and Fender. Now not so much. The Squire CV and VM lines are very nice instruments for the money and lots of people are using them as their main gigging basses.
Way to resurrect a 10 year old zombie thread!
IMO when this thread was started there was a big difference between the quality of Squire and Fender. Now not so much. The Squire CV and VM lines are very nice instruments for the money and lots of people are using them as their main gigging basses.
Wow 2002!!! Did not look at that
Anyhow, I have owned allot of basses and a few 70's Fenders (all good ones) My 2 SQ Squiers equal any MIA made P basses I have ever played to this date except for pre CBS. Now I know SQ MIJ Squiers are not equal todays Squiers and were built as well as MIA Fenders but they are still Squiers. I owned a CV but traded it in a deal for one of the 70's Fenders and it was a great bass not to far under the 70's but the value of the 70's was hard to pass up.
I own a 97' Vista Musicmaster Short scale that is awesome, built very well. To say Squiers are built bad today or even up to a few years ago is wrong. In fact I had a 97 Squier that sounded as good as my 78' P bass and was allot lighter.
ChaosGwar said:My Squier P bass is Korena made. It sounds just as good as MIM Fender P basses, and has real chrome knobs instead of those lamo plastic number knob jobs.
Pick ups are a little weak, but isn't that what the volume knob is for?
Just off the top of my head, and I could be wrong but I think the manufacturing history of squire goes something like : Japan, Korea, Mexico and these days Indonesia and china for cv line.
I think most would agree the quality has gotten progressively worse with the exception of cv from china... Cv line is meant to recapture the magic of the 80 s Japanese squires.
It doesn't surprise me you like your Korean cause... I played a few in the past and they always felt great.
... there is so much info in this thread that is both misleading and outdated, that with all due respect, I suggest anyone interested in this information refer to the miriad of more current threads on the same subject ... it is too easy for someone to start reading this info and assume it is written in todays world ... let it die and go back to were it was, its dangerous .. JMHO
They are not even comparable in terms of quality (and price) anybody that cannot tell the difference between playing a Squier and a Fender is either kidding themselves or just that ignorant of what to look for in a proper playing machine. You can get the tone close with a pickup swap but actually playing both with your own hands they are going to be two different beasts. As a previous poster said,it is especially noticeable in the fretwork, Squiers all have sharp fret edges.
EDIT: Just realized the date on this thread... why did you feel the need to revive this eian?
Food for thought, even your 8 year old Squier isn't as old as this thread....
Disagree with all of that, especially the bolded part. Squier has no more a problem with sharp fret edges than Fender itself does.
+1 to C.Linton
I have a 2010 Squier Affinity Jazz 5 that out plays my 2005 Fender American Deluxe 5 Swamp Ash Jazz and any other MIM or MIA Fender Jazz I've played.
Did I just get a good one? Maybe.
Are there other good ones? Yes.
Are there bad ones? I suspect so.
Is Fender capable of making a bad MIA or MIM bass? Yes.
Lesson learned - if you want to buy a new bass and you're set on a Fender type instrument (p or jazz) go pickup a MIA and play it against a MIM then take the better one of those and play it against the Squiers in the store - walk out with the one that plays, looks and feels best to you.
In my case more often than not I walk out with a Squier and a pocket full of cash.
I have a 2010 Squier Affinity Jazz 5 that out plays my 2005 Fender American Deluxe 5 Swamp Ash Jazz and any other MIM or MIA Fender Jazz I've played.
Did I just get a good one? Maybe.
Are there other good ones? Yes.
Are there bad ones? I suspect so.
Is Fender capable of making a bad MIA or MIM bass? Yes.
Lesson learned - if you want to buy a new bass and you're set on a Fender type instrument (p or jazz) go pickup a MIA and play it against a MIM then take the better one of those and play it against the Squiers in the store - walk out with the one that plays, looks and feels best to you.
In my case more often than not I walk out with a Squier and a pocket full of cash.
Check out the fretwork on the CV Squiers. I have seen basses that cost a grand that were not done as well as they are.
These threads leave me curious how much a Fender lover ever really picks up a Squier at all and on the rare occasion ever does so with an open mind, willing to give credit if it was deserved.
I wonder the same about the Squier lover, how often does he go to the music store and actually play all the basses he either can't afford or just refuses to buy due to the higher price, when he feels Squier is just as good and for much less.
Either way you look at it, it's odd that everyone swears their loyalty to one thing or the other, but ALWAYS claims to be intimately familiar with the brand they openly and admittedly do not care for.
It's kinda like saying I really don't care for a sandwich with onions & tomatoes when eating out, but every time I eat out I try sandwiches with onions & tomatoes just to reassure myself I don't like them.
I buy the idea that every so often a new shop may open with a new sandwich and a friend may convince me to have a bite but that's about it.
I taste it, I dislike it, I spit it out and stay away.
Just the same as the Fender lover may occasionally pick up the latest Classic Vibe series to see what all the fuss is about.
He picks it up and instantly all his bad feelings remind him of previous experiences with them and he checks it out with a very biased view and spits it out and stays away.
Same with the Squire guy, Fender may bring out a different line but due to the guys lack of money or feeling of it not being worth the high cost I can't see him spending a ton of time on it.
I see him more playing the Squier and selling himself on how much it fits his needs and is just as nice as the higher cost Fender.
Me personally, I like BOTH just fine.
Squier makes great stuff for the money, I'd even go as far as saying I feel like they are priced low for the quality.
Both of my CV's are excellent basses.
And I like Fender, and to me there's more to the cost of a Fender than just the bass itself.
Just like with anything name brand, a portion of that cost is strictly for the name itself.
There's a sense of pride in owning a Fender.
And your getting a great instrument for your money that can be depended on, and will hold it's value. And many more reasons.
I wonder the same about the Squier lover, how often does he go to the music store and actually play all the basses he either can't afford or just refuses to buy due to the higher price, when he feels Squier is just as good and for much less.
Either way you look at it, it's odd that everyone swears their loyalty to one thing or the other, but ALWAYS claims to be intimately familiar with the brand they openly and admittedly do not care for.
It's kinda like saying I really don't care for a sandwich with onions & tomatoes when eating out, but every time I eat out I try sandwiches with onions & tomatoes just to reassure myself I don't like them.
I buy the idea that every so often a new shop may open with a new sandwich and a friend may convince me to have a bite but that's about it.
I taste it, I dislike it, I spit it out and stay away.
Just the same as the Fender lover may occasionally pick up the latest Classic Vibe series to see what all the fuss is about.
He picks it up and instantly all his bad feelings remind him of previous experiences with them and he checks it out with a very biased view and spits it out and stays away.
Same with the Squire guy, Fender may bring out a different line but due to the guys lack of money or feeling of it not being worth the high cost I can't see him spending a ton of time on it.
I see him more playing the Squier and selling himself on how much it fits his needs and is just as nice as the higher cost Fender.
Me personally, I like BOTH just fine.
Squier makes great stuff for the money, I'd even go as far as saying I feel like they are priced low for the quality.
Both of my CV's are excellent basses.
And I like Fender, and to me there's more to the cost of a Fender than just the bass itself.
Just like with anything name brand, a portion of that cost is strictly for the name itself.
There's a sense of pride in owning a Fender.
And your getting a great instrument for your money that can be depended on, and will hold it's value. And many more reasons.
Quite frankly, I thought a very good joke at that!!
Unfortunately, here at the "political correct capitol of the world" J O K E S are usually looked at with disdain...
Me? I thought it was funny as hell!
