Stöner (former Kyuss)

[JES]

I just hope we can all agree that the umlaut makes it heavier.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

I just hope we can all agree that the umlaut makes it heavier.

I'm positive it's "tongue in cheek" much like the album cover.

 

[callofcthulhu]

It's not the worst thing ever.

Production is definitely amateur.

Good for them for keeping the faith.

But I feel like even 10-15 years ago this would've sounded a little stale....

And this is coming from someone firmly in the "QOTSA got too commercial" camp.

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

So I bought this LP on a whim seeing it has former Kyuss members. Anyhoo, of note is the recording because the bass is thundering and up-front. None of that rubberband, wet-noodle monkey business.

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Sounds like if White Zombie and Butthole Surfers had a baby.

That singer needs to never write another song though.

 

[ColoRADoKT]

Ouch this hurts. Sterile.

If they had a producer worth a dang, I can see some potential. But as it is, it's about as exciting as like watching snails mating.

 

[monsterthompson]

the mix works for me. my quick skim of the album revealed a mix of potential and disappointment. the track starting at 6:30 isn't bad. the vocals could've helped overall, but they are a bit of a drag, and the lyrics don't grab me. it almost feels like a deadpan parody of Fu Manchu.

looks like they are touring with Clutch this year.

 

[bolophonic]

This band is basically the Chickenfoot of stoner metal and Nick Oliveri is not a good dude. There are literally thousands of better bands doing this type of thing without the wife-beater aspect.

 

[JES]

This band is basically the Chickenfoot of stoner metal and Nick Oliveri is not a good dude. There are literally thousands of better bands doing this type of thing without the wife-beater aspect.

I did not know that. Extremely not cool. My umlaut joke is hereby retracted.

 

[Corigan]

Big fan of kyuss and stoner rock, but this one just felt flat to me. If you listen to green machine from Kyuss, that snare and those vocals are so in your face. This track, not so much.

This track the drums are vocals aren't really there for me. Bass tone sounds great.

I'll have to check out some of their other tracks.

 

[NoiseNinja]

Well, I was a bit rough on them, definitely sucks butt, I won't apologize for expressing that, but the bass is actually great, every other aspect of this is pretty much dread horrible, though the lyrics got to take the price for sucking the absolutely most.

Also maybe I should elaborate of what I meant by the production being horrible as well, it sounds sterile, which I what I meant by too polished but crappy at the same time, lo-fi productions can have their charm, I am even a big fan of lo-fi production, but usually that is because they sound everything but sterile, more alive and authentic so to speak, this doesn't however, it sounds completely lifeless and kills whatever life and authenticity there might had been left hidden somewhere in those tracks.

 

[danesdad]

I just hope we can all agree that the umlaut makes it heavier.

As it ALWAYS does!

 

[_Some Dude]

Doesn't groove.

 

[wmhill]

I was a little bit underwhelmed by the album, but not nearly as critical as many of the posts here. I mean it is stoner rock and they fit the genre just as one would expect. A lot of the complaints here are about the things that make stoner rock what it is. By design, it's a very low-fi low-tuned low-brow garage metal/rock genre that isn't for the masses. I hope some time on the road with CLUTCH will give them some edge without recreating the whole project. (They have a song about Evel Knievel, that can't be all bad! )

 

[consectaneus]

I'll bet they will kill it on the summer festival circuit. They have chosen a winning approach IMO.

 

[monsterthompson]

Doesn't groove.

agreed. i'm not a timing expert, but it feels kinda "on the grid" or uptight.

 

[Lenny JG]

I don't like it, but I can see why people do; I kinda guess the few peeps I know who would dig it right off the bat.

It's actually pretty good for what it is and I don't get all the smearing in the replies here. But hey whatever floats y'alls goats.

 

[Lenny JG]

I would hate to get so famous that I wasn't able to put out bad stuff anymore just to get it off my chest

Yeah dude, listen to 'Lift yourself' by Kanye West and tell me he didn't make it as a giant friggin joke. Lol

 

[_Some Dude]

It's actually pretty good for what it is and I don't get all the smearing in the replies here. But hey whatever floats y'alls goats.

For Kyuss fans, I think this is roughly the equivalent of when Metallica put out St Anger.

 

[jdaunt]

Listened to a bit of both the album and the live version (Live in the Mojave Desert, Vol. 4). The energy and dynamics are definitely better in the live version, bass is more in front in the studio version-it's still fairly prominent in the live one, but not as much as on the studio version, and the lyrics are weak in both of course. I'm seeing them open for Clutch in Detroit-trying to get tickets to one of the Machine Shop shows in Flint too, but the only ones available right now are $400 on StubHub, so unless that changes I'll be waiting until Dec to see them in the D.

 

[Riff Ranger]

I finally had a few minutes to give some of this a listen.

While QOTSA has been pretty hit-and-miss for me since Lullabies to Paralyze, it's its own thing that has at the very least stepped out of Kyuss' shadow.

I haven't heard all of it, but nothing I have heard from Nick Oliveri (outside of his contributions to QOTSA, which I think was better with him in it) or Brant Bjork or John Garcia ever did, or even came close. Unida and Hermano sounded like Kyuss clones, but at least they didn't sound like Kyuss wannabes; I can't say the same for Stöner.

I get the feeling that Oliveri, Bjork, and Garcia think they can make Kyuss happen again if they just keep trying, even 25 years later ("Sh!t don't change"—no sh!t!). I think Josh Homme and Scott Reeder realized long ago that Kyuss won't happen again.