Hello Mapleglo....you expressed my sentiments about all the series.....I got used to TNG over time and enjoyed it and Loved it once the Borg were introduced....Although it is hard to watch all of TOS now, it is the series I grew up watching in the 70s and have a deep connection to that series and all the cast
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Star Trek: Picard
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Alkali Ike
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Q was great. He was a douchebag but he was funny.
Yup. Body horror and feathered fedoras. The heart and soul of what makes Star Trek great. Remember when they used to explore planets and civilizations? I miss that.
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Watching with closed captions on so I can track all the unfamiliar names, I’ve noticed a lot of scripted “Mmm hmm” filler in the dialog. Reminds me of Sling Blade. Mmm hmm.
I love 7 of 9 as a character. She was great in Voyager and not just visually. She still looks fantastic though. Oof. I didn't hate her portrayal of her character in this episode like I hate Patrick Stewart's portrayal of Jean Luc Picard in this show. She still had her efficient/super genius freed Borg thing going on but clearly had been through a lot over the last 15 years or so. I hope she sticks around. It's only been four episodes but I get the impression that by the time this season is over, it'll all be a jumbled mess with unresolved story lines and sloppy development from behind the scenes drama and rewrites and firings and shenanigans. What's this big secret? Soji is the destroyer of what? Why do Romulans hate androids? Did the Romulans send her into the past which created the Borg? I feel like it's gonna be something like that. They're gonna retcon same huge element of Star Trek canon and it's gonna be silly.
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This may be my final outright criticism of Picard because I’m drifting further and further into petty nitpicking. Truthfully, in spite of my criticisms, I’m enjoying the show.
The Star Trek universe has become extremely complicated. It’s impossible for the writers to reconcile 50 years of canon and make everything fit perfectly. They’re trying to tell new stories and attract a new audience while being faithful to what others of us already “know”.
It’s not 1967 or 1987 or even 2007 any more. Younger viewers expect more action, they may not know much if any of the canon, yadda yadda yadda. Star Trek has to move forward or it would die.
To make everything sort of work, the writers have to play fast and loose with things like time travel. I find this tedious and troublesome, but that’s what they feel they have to do. I accept it as long as they’re telling me a good story. I like the stories of Discovery and Picard. But I have to bend my mind a little in order to wrap it around what they’re doing. I guess that’s my problem.
My criticism of Picard is more basic. The writing just seems amateurish sometimes. It’s like they wrote a first draft, made a couple quick changes via a committee, and filmed it. There’s a strange lack of polish to the dialog and even the acting sometimes. It rings false to me in ways that draw my attention. It’s actors reciting written dialog. Sometimes they have to mutter “Mmm hmm...” because that what the script tells them to do, even though nobody does that except in Sling Blade.
On the plus side, they’ve spared no expense on things like sets and special effects. The show looks and sounds fantastic.
It seems like they didn’t lavish that much time and attention on the dialog and perhaps some of the directing. Or maybe actors like Patrick Stewart reach a point in their careers where they can’t be directed, like Marlon Brando in his later efforts.
Watch it and decide for yourself. Don’t be deterred by negativity from random internet strangers like me.
The Star Trek universe has become extremely complicated. It’s impossible for the writers to reconcile 50 years of canon and make everything fit perfectly. They’re trying to tell new stories and attract a new audience while being faithful to what others of us already “know”.
It’s not 1967 or 1987 or even 2007 any more. Younger viewers expect more action, they may not know much if any of the canon, yadda yadda yadda. Star Trek has to move forward or it would die.
To make everything sort of work, the writers have to play fast and loose with things like time travel. I find this tedious and troublesome, but that’s what they feel they have to do. I accept it as long as they’re telling me a good story. I like the stories of Discovery and Picard. But I have to bend my mind a little in order to wrap it around what they’re doing. I guess that’s my problem.
My criticism of Picard is more basic. The writing just seems amateurish sometimes. It’s like they wrote a first draft, made a couple quick changes via a committee, and filmed it. There’s a strange lack of polish to the dialog and even the acting sometimes. It rings false to me in ways that draw my attention. It’s actors reciting written dialog. Sometimes they have to mutter “Mmm hmm...” because that what the script tells them to do, even though nobody does that except in Sling Blade.
On the plus side, they’ve spared no expense on things like sets and special effects. The show looks and sounds fantastic.
It seems like they didn’t lavish that much time and attention on the dialog and perhaps some of the directing. Or maybe actors like Patrick Stewart reach a point in their careers where they can’t be directed, like Marlon Brando in his later efforts.
Watch it and decide for yourself. Don’t be deterred by negativity from random internet strangers like me.
Just finished episode 4 and it was surely a happy surprise to see Seven back.
I wonder how many more misfits Picard is planning on adding to his crew?
I am honestly about to abandon this show...it's really not got me interested.
I'll probably give it to the next episode, but unless it improves a lot, that'll be it for me.
I wonder how many more misfits Picard is planning on adding to his crew?
I am honestly about to abandon this show...it's really not got me interested.
I'll probably give it to the next episode, but unless it improves a lot, that'll be it for me.
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I haven't watched any of the series yet but I enjoyed the trailer. I think it was about 42 seconds into the trailer, it shows Picard approaching the Anaheim Convention Center. The idea of Picard at NAMM really intrigues me.
Well she didn't do much in episode 4. But she had some great storylines in Voyager, as flawed as that show was.
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Did they choose the character name “Elron” at random? It makes me think of L. Ron Hubbard.
Oh yeah, yes, Jeri Ryan still looks great.
Oh yeah, yes, Jeri Ryan still looks great.
I guessed it was a reference to Elrond, from Lord Of The Rings.
