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Star Trek: Picard

#122
Gorn said:
The ****** ******* inserted a piece of the TNG theme into a shot of a ship going to warp. They abused it. The moment in question had no drama or depth or gravitas. They tried to tug on the heartstrings of die hard TNG fans like me and it just pissed me off.
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The Goldsmith theme (which I first heard in ST: The Motion Picture, so I don't strictly identify it with TNG, but that's just me) is first of all quoted at the end of Picard's opening theme, played by a tin whistle (a possible callback to the Ressikan flute), similarly to how the Discovery opening ends with the Courage fanfare. In fact, based on the earlier (modern) series, I anticipated it would be used in this exact fashion when watching the first STP episode.
In this one the TNG theme (my own first exposure to it notwithstanding, its use is indeed meant to re-evoke The Next Gen) also appears earlier on, when JL first transports onto the ship to meet Whatshisface and his alter holo. In both (well, all three) instances I was not outraged at hearing it, but none too thrilled either.

By the way, I was re-listening to the intro themes while typing this, and the Voyager theme (also by Goldsmith) is pretty good too, while having Dennis McCarthy's DS9 theme play over reading some tributes to Aron Eisenberg in one of the comments almost got me sobbing. Those were the tunes.
 
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#123
Commodore Oh’s sunglasses are crooked. Also, why sunglasses at all if she’s Vulcan? The inner eyelid!

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Edit: Or her fake eyebrows aren’t symmetrical. Or maybe she’s arching one eyebrow. ;)

OR - Wait for it - Maybe she’s not Vulcan!!!
 
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#129
I remembered the inner eyelid from TOS.

I’ve been cheating by reading Picard episode reviews. The consensus is Oh is Vulcan, though it could be a misdirection. Too many details for my puny brain to process. Maybe they explicitly said but it escaped me.

Discovery prompted me to watch The Menagerie as a refresher. The TOS sets were so crude! But it’s fun.
 
#130
Vulcans and Romulans both evolved on Vulcan so they're still the same species, as far as I understand what speciation is. In canon they're always referred to as an offshoot. But Romulans left Vulcan only a few thousand years ago and they can certainly interbreed. There are some Romulans with facial ridges above their eyebrows but that was never clearly explained. Either way, none of them need sunglasses, especially on Earth in the 2400s with perfect weather and probably a totally reconstituted ozone layer, thus making the creative decision to put sunglasses on one ridiculous.
 
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#133
Lame explanation for Commodore Oh’s sunglasses.

Star Trek: Picard's Showrunner Opens Up About the Sunglasses and Swears

[Showrunner Michael Chabon] also added in a comment that Oh’s sunglasses were designed to play off the “stereotypical undercover government operative trope,” noting that officer’s noted studies of human behavior have led her to adopt certain tactics that “produce the desired effect” of intimidation, like cops or soldiers. This includes Ray Bans.
 
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#134
Alkali Ike said:
Lame explanation for Commodore Oh’s sunglasses.

Star Trek: Picard's Showrunner Opens Up About the Sunglasses and Swears

[Showrunner Michael Chabon] also added in a comment that Oh’s sunglasses were designed to play off the “stereotypical undercover government operative trope,” noting that officer’s noted studies of human behavior have led her to adopt certain tactics that “produce the desired effect” of intimidation, like cops or soldiers. This includes Ray Bans.
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I was reading that. Apparently there was a q&a where he answered more questions. He addresses vaping and profanity in 2399. I don't know this Michael Chabon person but I don't like him.
 
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#135
Gorn said:
I was reading that. Apparently there was a q&a where he answered more questions. He addresses vaping and profanity in 2399. I don't know this Michael Chabon person but I don't like him.
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I must have read the same Q&A. I don’t like him either. He comes across as an ignorant hipster.
 
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#136
So after Ep 3, we have stand-ins for the Millennium Falcon, Han Solo, a princess (not the Leia kind), and Picard is either Luke Skywalker or Obi Wan Kenobi. Maybe “Han Solo”’s holographic assistant is like Chewbacca, or R2D2 if R2D2 spoke English.

These pretzels are making me thirsty. This show is making me angry.
 
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#137
Gorn said:
I wonder how many others like me are begrudgingly gonna pay for it. There's got to be a lot. I know I'm not alone in my hatred of JJ trek and Discovery and the TNG movies but I wonder if other weirdos like me can abstain and just not watch it. I can't not watch it.
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I have the same issue with the Alien franchise. I’m gonna pay my money and go watch every new movie and be miserable after. :rollno:
 
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#138
woodyng2 said:
I have the same issue with the Alien franchise. I’m gonna pay my money and go watch every new movie and be miserable after. :rollno:
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I only saw parts of Covenant but Prometheus just didn't make any sense. They had some ideas and made a beautiful movie but it didn't make any sense as a part of the franchise. But instead of coming up with new sci fi, it's more financially viable to tie it to a successful franchise. Instead of putting the Star Trek name on two shows and three more in the works that don't appeal to fans of the existing franchise, they could've made something new. Discovery and Picard are beautiful looking tv shows with solid budgets. But it's not Star Trek. The only good example I can think of where it worked was with Battlestar.
 
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