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Stoner/Doom Bassists 55: Speaker whore anonymous
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Thats one of the biggest things about why I love my amp. Is a 400 watt tube amp hugely louder than a 300 watt tube amp? Nope, but it sure feels bigger. Hits compression a little later, better dynamic range, and those facking huge OT's let the low end pound.
ive never had my VR past 1pm with my cabs. anymore than that and id be too worried about it blowing my speakers. maybe its cause i use multiple speakers and not one cab but ive never had a volume issue with a tube head. my sunn 2000S and the sound city bass 150 arent as loud as the VR, but i dont need anymore volume than that.
and my VR stays clean for most of the time, unless im digging into the strings with a pick, which will cause grit on its own despite the volume. up around the 11-1pm area is where it starts getting a little dirty.
and my VR stays clean for most of the time, unless im digging into the strings with a pick, which will cause grit on its own despite the volume. up around the 11-1pm area is where it starts getting a little dirty.
Sometimes I crank the volume on my headphone amp up to about 1/4 of the way.
Not too often though.
Not too often though.
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My SVT-II (non-pro) was an awesome sounding amp, I could get it to the volume that worked for shows as long as I didn't use any dirt pedals, which frankly isn't something I'm ok with.
Whenever I would kick on my rat, everything would get dirtier, but not any louder, if anything it seemed to get quieter since I would end up dissolving into the mix more. Things were just topped out at the volumes I needed to play, if I had more headroom I probably would have kept that amp.
Whenever I would kick on my rat, everything would get dirtier, but not any louder, if anything it seemed to get quieter since I would end up dissolving into the mix more. Things were just topped out at the volumes I needed to play, if I had more headroom I probably would have kept that amp.
see that makes no sense to me. using any fuzz/dirt always has a natural boost to it. for example i can dime the volume on my bluebeard and turn my amps volume down, and still get pretty loud. i dont understand how turning on a distortion pedal would give you just gain and no boost. and ive owned a rat, you could definitely crank the volume on that and get louder, and not just dirtier.
YOU SMOKING TOO MUCH WEED IN CHI TOWN SON! lol
The amps headroom plus the input sensitivity can only take so much before it literally does nothing but sound slightly different with no volume change.
The Mesa 400+ is 500 watts peak not RMS. RMS is about 250-300 watts. It sounded good when I owned one, but the EQ is too limited, and it did not sound good when pushed. Very nice clean tone but as soon as it distorted or as soon as you added some OD or fuzz via a pedal the high end was very weak and brittle sounding. I was never able to EQ it out. I'm sure if I played with the graphic EQ I could have made it work but it was not worth it in my opinion. I prefer "simpler" amps.
i agree, but at least on mine with my configuration it takes a lot to get to that point.
I've never had my Fender 300 pro's volume past 3.5. That's medium sized room with no PA support. LOUD but still clean. I'll probably never get to hear it break up.
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Ampeg has it right...every tube amp I ever owned/played. In order to get the desired volume I would set them at the top of how "loud" they could get, from then on any volume adjustment/boost/pedal would not make the amp any louder, only dirtier sounding. There was no more room to boost anything up louder.
Keep in mind bongripper isn't like a normal band since our guitars are playing normal bass tuning range and I'm playing an octave below them in the sub-bass range. Both guitarists running a wall of cabs (2-6x12's, oversized 4x12, and oversized 2x15) with around 400 watts of power pushing each stack.
and in cstvt for the majority of the shows each guitarist would run a half stack and a combo, so each would have 6-12's and about 200 watts each. There's a lot of volume coming off them, so in order for the bass to be loud enough, I need to be able to produce a lot of volume.
Here would be a perfect situation for my non-existent (as of yet) amp idea: a tube preamp into a low watt tube power section into a big SS PA amp. The power from the tubes only creates enough oomph to achieve the correct level to drive the PA amp correctly.
Pre grind, power tube grind, and enough volume to liquify your innards.
Yep. But thats like rating my amp as a 650 watt amp. The problem is the RMS rating is the standard that most other companies use. The buyer just needs to be aware of this fact.
Warwick protube was supposedly like that. Never seen or heard one though.
Also SWR interstellar overdrive as well as H&K BATT. Preamp tube + poweramp tube in a preamp. There is also in the classifieds recently an Electro sonic C4, which should be the same was about $250 last I saw it, can't find it now.
Edit: found it.
http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=976016
I'm always behind the curve.
Anyone hear about these new clicky things that change the channels on your TV? Will wonders never cease.
maybe its just due to the tuning. i know in G i need to turn up but not much more. but i still compete with 4 412s with a model T and a matamp GT100 and i can still cut.
i need to get decibel meter at some point and put it on stage for a show just to see what we push. i remember mouth of the architect did this, they told me they hit like 120-130 lol.
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