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Stoner/Doom Bassists 84: Name That Amp!

#101
We recorded all the tracks for the Supervoid album individually and it came out great. Only change I would have made was something Corey had mentioned. We had to drop the newest track we had written from the album because the performance wasn't good enough. Our drummer struggled a bit with not being able to see us, as he was in the recording room and the rest of us were in the board room. Next time I'd at least like to stand in there with him with head phones so we could sync up a bit better.
 
#105
The_Janitor said:
I think BTB sounds great!
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thanks!

the trick is to get drum and guitar tones that are useable when recording, nothing extereme. The rest is just playing with the EQ of each track. we don't spend a lot of time trying to get the perfect sound from the amp/mic, again due to cost restraints which if you are recording live is probably something you're considering, just quickly find something even that doesn't have a lot of holes in and then let the EQ takeover.
 
#106
I didn't even use my pedalboard when we recorded. I wanted to move things along quickly so I walked in and banged out all my bass tracks in 4 hours. One mic on the cab and also took the DI off my amp. Put my tone in the hands of the engineer and he did a great job.

Next time I will probably use my pedals though. I typically only use one "live" tone anyways. Or maybe record direct and then reamp with my Wizard Fuzz after reading how that went for Sam.

Sometimes it's just easier to do things how the engineer thinks they will turn out best, so you only have to worry about playing your parts.
 
#108
Toastfuzz said:
This sounds like a best-of-both-worlds approach... anybody do it?

Personally I've never recording anything professionally so I cant weigh in
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it all works, just depends on the players.

this last album we only mic'd the drums, then had the guitar and bass DI'd so they can only be heard in our headphones. we played the songs like we normally do but only the drums were recorded. so they have a nice live feel with some tempo swings. then we went back and recorded the bass and guitars seperately afterwards. I would say this was my favorite way of recording so far. you get the energy of a live recording, especially the drums, and the precision of seperate tracking.
 
#112
beebassdude said:
its tough to do that with all the bleed, and its even harder unless your tempos are rock solid. if theres any stops/starts or gaps in the music its also really hard to guess where to come in.

i think bleed is the biggest issue tho, unless youre close mic'ing everything. i understand it saves money but it limits control of everything.

come to think of it, ive been in bands since i was 16, ive never actually done a live recording in a single band. everything has always been track by track, whether we were in a studio, a basement, or using a 4 track in a friends house.
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I agree. I've been in bands since I was about 14, the first time I was in a studio I was 16 and we did that live, but that was on tape and for demo purposes to play shows/clubs; not really intended for high quality or a release. That was also a much bigger room. Every other time after that was all track by track in some form.
I think the compromise is going to be that we're gonna record using both methods; all songs all live and then all songs track by track. I guess I'm fine with that, but... yeah the miscommunication, no one angry at all, just me really bummed out and even after I shot down every point with some fact weird opinions kept sprouting afterwards.
When we play live I'm juggling five things at once, I don't want to feel that way while recording nor do I wanna risk any regret of any kind as far as "oh I shoulda done that...".
 
#115
Our recording method: record drums first along with a scratch guitar and vocal track. Then bass. Then main guitar track. Then any additional lead guitar stuff. We have someone other than the player that's actively playing and recording hitting any pedals that need to be hit. Except for anything with a wah.

I'd really like to be able to play with our drummer when we record but we haven't found a good way to prevent the bass from bleeding into the drums.
 
#116
beebassdude said:
id gladly take a mark 4, the mark 3 200s are super rare and really pricey.
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Yeah, they rarely pop up. I was talking to a guy in Australia about one but he never pulled through. I think I've seen one or two in the States in the last 8 years. That's why I kind of gave up. I wouldn't mind a MK4 since they can be easily converted to Hiwatt spec or MK3 spec. I had a 120 and I wasn't a huge fan of the active EQ. Though, it did do much better on bass than guitar. I've heard that the 150's don't have an active EQ and are supposedly pretty darn loud. I've heard a MK4 200 one time through a 408 acoustic and it was insane. My dream amp is still an OR200, which I will always be on the look out for one. Even if it's for the rest of my playing life. But hopefully I can get one built within the next year or two :::cough:::dunwich:::cough::: :)

I love my B100 though. I plug a Rat Tail in front of it and it sounds huge through my Scumback loaded 4x12 (V4 4x12). It kicked my old V4, 120, and YBA-3 to CL sale ads. The Sunn Sorado is cool though. Just wish it was a bit louder.
 
#117
chillerthanmost said:
Yeah, they rarely pop up. I was talking to a guy in Australia about one but he never pulled through. I think I've seen one or two in the States in the last 8 years. That's why I kind of gave up. I wouldn't mind a MK4 since they can be easily converted to Hiwatt spec or MK3 spec. I had a 120 and I wasn't a huge fan of the active EQ. Though, it did do much better on bass than guitar. I've heard that the 150's don't have an active EQ and are supposedly pretty darn loud. I've heard a MK4 200 one time through a 408 acoustic and it was insane. My dream amp is still an OR200, which I will always be on the look out for one. Even if it's for the rest of my playing life. But hopefully I can get one built within the next year or two :::cough:::dunwich:::cough::: :)

I love my B100 though. I plug a Rat Tail in front of it and it sounds huge through my Scumback loaded 4x12 (V4 4x12). It kicked my old V4, 120, and YBA-3 to CL sale ads. The Sunn Sorado is cool though. Just wish it was a bit louder.
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i have a Bass 150 at the moment, i really like it a lot. its not SVT loud but its loud for sure, takes fuzz nicely as well and on clean its got just a little tube grit at the volume im using it at, probably more if i dimed it more.
 
#118
bassboysam said:
I have to disagree here.

We recorded our first 2 albums live off the floor. Everything was in the same tiny room and bleeding into everything else. We then just overdubbed some additional guitar parts to thicken up the sound and add leads. Also, if you are recording each instrument on a sperate track there is no reason why you can't go back an punch in to fix minor mistakes. Yes the better you know the materail the easier it will be. Our recordings were not perfect but they good enough and you have to listen very carefully to hear any issues. It was quick and cheap which allowed us to press vinyl and be able to breakeven.
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THIS IS ROCK N ROLL! Not rocket science, dime everything, hit the drums with sledgehammers, a room mic, hit record.

But really I agree with you Sam, also love the new artwork.

IME DIY is fine for demos or an EP but if I'm gonna record a full length with intentions of vinyl, I'm going to a studio. Even if I have a person whose verse in the equipment and software, the atmosphere in a studio where everything is out of my hands besides getting my track done correctly is a lot better. And I have a different, more "professional" attitude toward getting it done when its coming out my pocket.
 
#119
beebassdude said:
i have a Bass 150 at the moment, i really like it a lot. its not SVT loud but its loud for sure, takes fuzz nicely as well and on clean its got just a little tube grit at the volume im using it at, probably more if i dimed it more.
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Nice! I've heard good stuff about the 150. That's good to hear. What cab are you running it with? I've gone through a handful of cabs but have been enjoying my flatback 810 lately. After a handful of different cabs I've really come to enjoy sealed cabs.
 

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