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Stoner/Doom Bassists thread 31: We never sleep

#483
askrere said:
Anyone know what that area of freq is? As is like is it the boomy range etc?
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That is low mids, upper lows. This is the where a mixing engineer would start cutting for guitars, and accentuating for a standard tuned bass to help it cut through without stomping on the kick.

i.e. more boom less rumble in comparison to say 120hz (standard "lows") and 63hz (sub-bass aka the kick drum thump freq.).
 
#485
those mammoth cabs look pretty cool.

and dunwich nick, have you ever played bass through a Klipp? the guy that had the OR200 that i passed on also had a Klipp for sale.

come to think of it, that guy in NC had the coolest collection of rare tube heads ive ever seen in one shop: 71 Orange Tolex Matamp GT100, Orange Matamp ORMAT 200, and a Laney Klipp. i should have bought one of them!
 
#487
well the non-klipp channel of the klipp is just a copy of the Superrgroup normal input channel, the Klipp channel can always be configured to just be a supergroup channel. the supergroup was laney's plexi/superlead amp but with ****in insane plate and screen voltages inexcess of 575V....thats just nuts.

I dont think it would be a super great bass amp unless u like playing a Bass through a superlead
 
#488
Ancient Tone said:
That is low mids, upper lows. This is the where a mixing engineer would start cutting for guitars, and accentuating for a standard tuned bass to help it cut through without stomping on the kick.
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Weird, I got mine still unused at my parents house. I say weird because asking and looking it is a low mid, upper lows boost. I guess all the threads were just people making crap up without trying it, because the general consensus was pure mud only suitable for bad dub.
 
#492
father of fires said:
From what I understand it's not a tube-stortion. It's a tube boost to give your amp extra preamp stages.
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they claim its based on the Klipp circuit which is a voltage starved differential amp which was after the first gain stage to achieve distortion without much output swing. Essentially a crude tube fuzz

im interested in making a Klipp clone but with reasonable screen voltages and an improved klipp which does sound as harsh atleast to some people.
 
#493
askrere said:
Weird, I got mine still unused at my parents house. I say weird because asking and looking it is a low mid, upper lows boost. I guess all the threads were just people making crap up without trying it, because the general consensus was pure mud only suitable for bad dub.
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Well I have not actually tried it, to be clear, just according to the spec sheet that is the conclusion that i would reach about it. If you got one i'd bust it out and try it, it would probably work best with a passive bass in E standard for adding some massive lows, the volume boost with an active bass would definitely dirty up your preamp, then again if you have an active bass with EQ you probably wouldn't need this. And with a detuned bass it wouldnt work with the lowest string very well, at that point it would seem more like a mid boost.


and "pure mud suitable for bad dub" is actually appealing to me for some weird reason.... :hiding:
 
#496
Ancient Tone said:
Well I have not actually tried it, to be clear, just according to the spec sheet that is the conclusion that i would reach about it. If you got one i'd bust it out and try it, it would probably work best with a passive bass in E standard for adding some massive lows, the volume boost with an active bass would definitely dirty up your preamp, then again if you have an active bass with EQ you probably wouldn't need this.


and "pure mud suitable for bad dub" is actually appealing to me for some weird reason.... :hiding:
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Maybe it'll be good for that impedance mismatched sound.
 
#497
Ancient Tone said:
Well I have not actually tried it, to be clear, just according to the spec sheet that is the conclusion that i would reach about it. If you got one i'd bust it out and try it, it would probably work best with a passive bass in E standard for adding some massive lows, the volume boost with an active bass would definitely dirty up your preamp, then again if you have an active bass with EQ you probably wouldn't need this. And with a detuned bass it wouldnt work with the lowest string very well, at that point it would seem more like a mid boost.


and "pure mud suitable for bad dub" is actually appealing to me for some weird reason.... :hiding:
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Guitar center kind of stole from me, and I complained and got enough coupons, and got it for free.

I have two BEAD basses and a E standard bass, my plan was to use it in front of my windsor tube amp for a dark driven tone. Why does it need to be a E standard bass?

I am excited for it as long as it doesn't cause so much boom and excess low that it drags the amp down.
 
#499
askrere said:
Guitar center kind of stole from me, and I complained and got enough coupons, and got it for free.

I have two BEAD basses and a E standard bass, my plan was to use it in front of my windsor tube amp for a dark driven tone. Why does it need to be a E standard bass?

I am excited for it as long as it doesn't cause so much boom and excess low that it drags the amp down.
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It would probably work well in front of the windsor. The reason is the fundamental harmonic relationship. With lower tuned basses your fundamental on Eb - B will be lower so it will accentuate the third - fourth harmonic causing a perception of a mid boost instead of a low end boost. While on an E standard bass on your lowest note it will accentuate the fundamental - 1st harmonic causing a more perceivable "low end" boost. Now I am presuming this based on general live sound / recording knowledge and not 1st hand knowledge, so YMMV and very well may.

This is assuming that the 200-400hz center frequency they describe has a filter more in a /\ or peak, shape (I'm assuming this based on their use of "center", which is the midway between two set points, instead of a shelf which only has one ending point basically, i.e. the highest frequency before cut off on a HPF and the lowest frequency on a LPF). I wanted to go with a graphic eq to get more or a shelf style eq so that all the low end frequencies are boosted, making it usable in just about any tuning. If the Mole is in fact a low shelf booster and the rise of the shelf starts at 200-400hz then in actuality it would work great with any bass.
 

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