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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread Part 28: Chicken Pot Pie

#948
Yeah, those hipster sellouts! ;)

I just want to know if there are any advantages to tapes to make them a valid source of media in today's marketplace. One could argue the validity of vinyl, but vinyl sounds good. Most of the websites I visit have a section for CD's or Vinyl. Nothing for tapes. Just sayin'.


edit**If they are valid, then maybe it is something to look into. I just had a guy tell me his order of preference for music is as follows: Vinyl, CD, Tape, MP3. He said MP3 is too low quality??? Don't most CD tracks start as MP3's? Someone help me understand...
 
#950
I think most of the people getting into tapes now didn't grow up with them or use them when they were popular. They suck all around. Poor sound quality, fast degradation, mechanical errors, stretched out - wow and flutter, rewind/fast forward. I hated tapes back then and I hate them now. They're just ******.
 
#951
Well, MP3 is a compressed file. I'm not completely sure, but I think it all depends on the bit rate. 160kbps and lower is pretty low quality, while 320kbps is pretty much CD quality. Most people I know go for FLAC rather than MP3. I've never been able to tell a difference, though.
 
#952
I don't have a high end system where I would notice the difference between a 320kbps/vbr0 mp3 and a FLAC. And even if I did, most of my music listening takes place at work (small computer speakers) and in my car, so MP3 is still better for me.

Audio cassettes/VHS tapes were some of the worst mediums ever accepted by the general industry for the exact reasons The_Janitor just described.
 
#953
LOCOPELAND said:
Well, MP3 is a compressed file. I'm not completely sure, but I think it all depends on the bit rate. 160kbps and lower is pretty low quality, while 320kbps is pretty much CD quality. Most people I know go for FLAC rather than MP3. I've never been able to tell a difference, though.
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I have heard a really crummy CD, but it sounds blatantly awful. Most burned CD's I have are the higher kbps. I think they sound great. But, I also have a premium sound system in my car (or what Mazda calls premium) :rolleyes: :p
 
#954
I don't mind mp3 @ 320kbps. I ripped all of my cds in lossless wav files which are usually around 900kbps or so. A lot of mp3 players (i'm looking at you ipod) won't play those so I downconvert them to mp3 320. I hear a very slight difference, but not enough to bother me. Like others said, I don't have a high end system, I'm either listening on consumer headphones, in my car or on some powered monitors at home. Sounds alright to me.
 
#956
I was just talking to my wife this past weekend about how I want to get a bunch of new albums from Small Stone. I couldn't decide if I should get CDs or LPs. My immediate response is "records, of course", but they're more expensive and I can get more if I buy CDs. I reasoned that I have waaaay too many CDs and I don't have any more room, so I should just get records. Then I heard my own voice coming out of my mouth and said "oh, uhh...records are WAY bigger than CDs, aren't they?". Ehhhhh...f*ck it, I will probably just get CDs, then I can rip them to a lossless format and have a physical backup. I just need to clean house and get rid of all the crap CDs that are sitting on my giant bookshelf. I do listen to my records, but I've been thinking about getting a new record player and figuring out how to hook it up to my JBL monitors for a couple years. I don't want to spend any more money, when I already have the means to listen to music in high definition. I can always go back and by my favorite albums of the batch on vinyl if I really want to.

If Small Stone offered digital downloads, I would do that. I don't really want to buy them all off iTunes though.
 
#957
JoeVictim said:
I just want to know if there are any advantages to tapes to make them a valid source of media in today's marketplace. One could argue the validity of vinyl, but vinyl sounds good. Most of the websites I visit have a section for CD's or Vinyl. Nothing for tapes. Just sayin'..
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Advantage to tapes?

When I lived in the ghetto a few years ago, my truck would get broken in to about weekly. I stopped locking my doors because I didnt want to find my windows broken one day.

They'd pull out all my cassette tapes and reorganize them on the floor, but they never took a single one.

I also drove a 5-speed manual, which was basically my assurance nobody would bother trying to steal the whole truck.
 
#958
Lazarus.Bird said:
Do you guys prefer the audio quality of MIA cassettes over MIM? haha
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-> No but they MIA one's tend to get the booty's shakin on the dance floor.

The_Janitor said:
I think most of the people getting into tapes now didn't grow up with them or use them when they were popular. They suck all around. Poor sound quality, fast degradation, mechanical errors, stretched out - wow and flutter, rewind/fast forward. I hated tapes back then and I hate them now. They're just ******.
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I grew up with tapes, and sure they got eaten and you had to rewind them with a pencil, and then they wore out from playing the same songs over and over... However I've said ti before and I'll say it again... they had their benefits.
1.) No skipping while skating, or riding the bus to school.
2.) Ease of dubbing and over dubbing tapes including the ability to tape albums and make them portable... since the portable turntable hasn't really come into fruition yet.
3.) So easy to stick a mic next to the TV and pull songs of MTV when they actually played decent music...

Also, most of what I've seen on Cannabis and Cancer involves the cannabinoids other than THC... It seems the more a strain is bred to be psychoactive it is found to possess relatively lower levels of the other anti-inflammatory beneficial compounds... If I remember correctly most of the medicinal anti-cancer effects are tied to CBD. There is a great film on this topic done from a research perspective called "What if Cannabis Cured Cancer"
 
#959
SO, can we all agree? Releasing a cassette tape is for nothing more than the exclusiveness of having a cassette tape? Exclusive=Hipster? Like you aren't in the Kool Klub? Oh well. I have yet to hear a valid reason to release a tape, so for the meantime I am writing cassettes off as nothing more than an attempt to be cool. (unless you actually have a tape player in your car, but even then, they make those CD to tape player things to run a CD player....)

I still think your Mason Jar packaging idea would be a big hit, Corey! lol.
 
#960
JoeVictim said:
SO, can we all agree? Releasing a cassette tape is for nothing more than the exclusiveness of having a cassette tape? Exclusive=Hipster? Like you aren't in the Kool Klub? Oh well. I have yet to hear a valid reason to release a tape, so for the meantime I am writing cassettes off as nothing more than an attempt to be cool.

I still think your Mason Jar packaging idea would be a big hit, Corey! lol.
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just like bands releasing vinyl............lol

and before somebody goes off on how amazing they sound and this and that, just remember vinyl is hip right now, just like anything else that is not the norm. theres a reason records died out long ago, and are currently making a comeback (because theyre big, fun, and cool).

if something is different, it will be cool in the underground music scene. im eagerly awaiting Mastodon to release their next album on 8 track.
 

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