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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

So that Lars sucks thread got my attention last night.
Never heard of "... And Justice for Jason" before.
Was neat hearing bass on that album. Pretty Hamfisted job mixing it back in though.
I think if it were re released officially with mo'bass, I might actually buy it.
I grew up on Metallica but really grew to hate them over the Napster thing. Hating which has only gotten worse every time Lars opened his mouth.
Feel like a punk wanting to give that fool more money though.
Hopefully it will never happen so I don't get compelled to buy it.

I dig the AJFJ remix but, yeah, it could use a proper job so it doesn't sound like some dropped a bass track over the rest of the mix on one track.
 
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@The_Janitor Tnx for posting that.

I'm just glad people are digging it. I try to tell folks how good the music scene is in Madison, usually I'm met with dismissive eye-rolls (either literal or figurative). So yeah, glad you guys like it, Droids deserves the love. Also, at some of their shows they have a guy in a robot suit walking around, humping various bits of electronics or machinery (he's got a thing for jukeboxes).
 
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I want a reverse delay, but I doubt I'd really use it.
Grabbed some Red Mahogany stain and the accoutrements needed to get this drum kit up and running as a I'll practice on the small tom, then move on up to the others. Going to finish and seal the inside walls too (unless someone wants to try and stop me).

My buddy bought a Strymon Timeline and the Multi-Switch. About $600 total. It's Reverse delay is cool, but hard to fit it into songs often. That pedal is a monster though. Wowza.

If you seal/finish the inside walls, you'll be "stuck" with whatever moisture content is currently in the wood. Might make it more stable, but I think it will likely change the timbre of the drums in some way. I'm just guessing, but possibly brighter due to a harder more reflective surface. Just don't get anything on the bearing edges and you should be OK. I Linseed Oiled my kit after removing the wrap, inside and out, and it's still going strong after like 12 years. that definitely changed the tone. Rounder, and warmer.

drummer guys, this is a great deal right??

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That's an almost too good to be true deal. Like buy it now, holy Sh*t deal! Just the shells would be worth around $400ish. The cymbals I'd say even more than $400 themselves. The B8 is junk though.
 
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That's such a classic scene. and it hits such a visceral nerve. I tell people, the key to making good horror is to make it easy to identify with it.

I grew up in hard coal country and both my grandfather and his father were miners so it hit home for me. The Molly Macguire stuff and fighting over which mine to work in. Just hobble him then he can't give us any more problems. To think people really did that to other people, sheesh. That scene is brutal.

Man I watched Charlie Victor Romeo on Netflix Instant last night and that gave me chills. It was cockpit reenactments of plane emergencies from the black box recordings.
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That's what I thought, but cymbals aren't something I know much about. Every thing is a custom Z B k T A or some mix of those letters. I just recognized I once owned a ping ride and indeed paid a pretty penny even used.

Yeah when she tells him "god i love you "I just crack up.
Although I think most people don't laugh at that...:oops:

Back in the day my mom got sent to the principals office for laughing at that old Helen Keller movie. That break through moment where she shouts "wahturrr" proved to much.
 
My buddy bought a Strymon Timeline and the Multi-Switch. About $600 total. It's Reverse delay is cool, but hard to fit it into songs often. That pedal is a monster though. Wowza.

If you seal/finish the inside walls, you'll be "stuck" with whatever moisture content is currently in the wood. Might make it more stable, but I think it will likely change the timbre of the drums in some way. I'm just guessing, but possibly brighter due to a harder more reflective surface. Just don't get anything on the bearing edges and you should be OK. I Linseed Oiled my kit after removing the wrap, inside and out, and it's still going strong after like 12 years. that definitely changed the tone. Rounder, and warmer.

If I was to get a reverse delay, id get the Danelectro back talk.

As for drum finish. I was gonna do tru-oil/b. Linseed, but each shell is a different shade, and I hate things looking off. Being cheap and OCD, I watched a 7min vid of a guy sanding and staining with minwax, then clear coating. Came out really nice. He stained in his drums too.

I still might just oil the inside, I've never heard how these drums sound so I can't say how they will change. I'm 99% sure it's going to be setup with the junk bottom heads cut away to allow for the lugs and rims to be put on while still acting as concert toms.

Why do nearing edges have to be left alone? I'll mask them off, but I'm curious. I get not reshaping it, but I figure any finish isn't that thick?
 
That's what I thought, but cymbals aren't something I know much about. Every thing is a custom Z B k T A or some mix of those letters. I just recognized I once owned a ping ride and indeed paid a pretty penny even used.



Back in the day my mom got sent to the principals office for laughing at that old Helen Keller movie. That break through moment where she shouts "wahturrr" proved to much.

In college, one of the professors in my department was super cool, ex-musician, eco-warrior, tracked grizzly bears with GPS type, but ended up teaching in Northeast PA LOL. He showed us a film about illegal immigrants and the real sad part about how the one guy is admitting to being an alcoholic plays and everyone of us is laughing our arses off. He looked shocked then cracked up himself. He said man you guys are brutal I thought that would be a touching scene that moved you.
 
I grew up in hard coal country and both my grandfather and his father were miners so it hit home for me. The Molly Macguire stuff and fighting over which mine to work in. Just hobble him then he can't give us any more problems. To think people really did that to other people, sheesh. That scene is brutal.

Man I watched Charlie Victor Romeo on Netflix Instant last night and that gave me chills. It was cockpit reenactments of plane emergencies from the black box recordings.
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Have you ever seen the movie "Matewan"? It's about the union movement in WVa mines.
 
Have you ever seen the movie "Matewan"? It's about the union movement in WVa mines.

Right before I moved to VA, I was doing an environmental education internship for the BLM about acid mine drainage and reclamation. Well we on the set they made and now a museum for the Molly Maguires movie to do a little tie-dye with acid mine drainage t-shirt shop for the children up that way. They had to build it since most of the stuff was gone. It was pretty trippy being there.

The town I grew up in had mines under some of the streets in my part of town and strip mines the mountain I grew up on. Depending on your ethnicity is what street/mine you worked in back in the day. I lived close to the border of the next town and on that section of the mountain the Avondale mine went on strike. So they brought Welsh miners down from Scranton to cross the lines and work it. One minor snuck down and started a fire to kill them for working their mine. No one was ever caught and all they could call it was a mine disaster but it was too strategic a planned/placed fire and they were on strike.

My great grandfather was killed in the mine and since it was too dangerous to go in there my grandfather went in and brought his father out. How doom is that.
 
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In college, one of the professors in my department was super cool, ex-musician, eco-warrior, tracked grizzly bears with GPS type, but ended up teaching in Northeast PA LOL. He showed us a film about illegal immigrants and the real sad part about how the one guy is admitting to being an alcoholic plays and everyone of us is laughing our arses off. He looked shocked then cracked up himself. He said man you guys are brutal I thought that would be a touching scene that moved you.

Most awkward in class movie was during 11th grade history. We had to watch some Nazi war crime flick. So anytime an atrocity is shown, this blonde blue eyed girl in class just starts laughing like its the funniest thing ever.

Entire class and the teacher are like o_O?? Then she had to stay after class, I assume the teacher wanted to confirm if she was a nazi or just on some kind of spectrum.
 
Is tie dye in mine run off safe to do/wear?

Yeah we would go to different sites to get different colors, mostly orange, some had red, some purple. We would dry it out so it was like a powder then make chalk or have the tie-dye shops. There was a company making industrial paint dyes out of it. It's nasty, there were runoff ponds from the mine that the ducks would have orange bellies when they would fly away from the ponds.
 
My great grandfather was killed in the mine and since it was too dangerous to go in there my grandfather went in and brought his father out. How doom is that.

My great grandfather died in the coal mines as well. The story is: they used these long hooks to pull down sections of coal from the roof? wall?, and when the big assed chunk of coal came down, it caught the hook and punched the handle end into his stomach area and kilt him.