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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Yeah, I'm just skipping the ported design ideas entirely. It would be difficult to improve upon what I've already got between the two Duallies, so I might as well change it up for variety. I'm building it because I want to build something and I want a huge cab that will look fitting with the giant amp head.
 
I was thinking the Electric style. Staggered 2x15 enclosures, stacked vertically with an internal division between the top and the bottom. The design ideas I put together on my own matched pretty closely to the existing dimensions of similar cabs I've researched, so I figured it must be in the ballpark. The main priorities are being wide enough to have a 28" wide head sit on top and being loud. I know it's not going to go super deep if it's sealed, but that's fine since I'm probably going to be playing with a lot of gain through it anyway. So I figured I'd shoot for something punchy, akin to a sealed 810 type sound. If I want some more subs, I can always just plug in one of the Duallies next to it no problem, as it'll come out 4 ohm with the Eminence Legend CA154 drivers. I've always seen EA's site say they use the Kappa driver, but Eminence says they're recommended for vented enclosures only. Although I don't think I've ever seen ports on those 4x15 cabs, but it's hard to tell in the few pics there are online.



My amp would turn into a giant sledge hammer, waiting to pound human nails into the stage.

I think the Electricamp one might be primitively ported, but I can't remember. I think it's similar to the diagonal design Marshall was using for their 2x15 cabs for a while, so it might be sealed (but, you know, two of them). Either way, it's a badass cab.
 
I need to decide if I am going to see Truckfighters on Friday, but their are a bunch of good shows coming up so I might save my money. In the coming months: Red Fang with Big Business, Mastodon with Gojira (I don't care what the new Mast album sounds like their live show is killer), Young Widows, Ghost, I feel like there is another good show soon and it is escaping me. Truth be told I haven't listened to Truckfighters that much so I am not totally dying to see them or anything so it may get the ax.

GO SEE TRUCKFIGHTERS!!!

We played a show with Uzala a while back, I thought they were pretty good, but yeah, it's weird seeing a doom band with no bass player. The two player format works for some - Black Cobra is a good example - but if it's slow doom then I really notice the lack of bass.

Exception the no bass player thing: Beast in the Field, if anything is missing its guitar.
 
If you do go the TL-606 route, I encourage you to transpose them to 1/2" ply, add some bracing, and adjust the port for what ever driver you decide to go with. Will pay off in the long run.

You'll probably hear from me at some point as well. Eventually I want to build a 215 TL606 for my EVMs.

That or I've been thinking of doing somenthing crazy like a 215+folded 18...218+215
 
You'll probably hear from me at some point as well. Eventually I want to build a 215 TL606 for my EVMs.

That or I've been thinking of doing somenthing crazy like a 215+folded 18...218+215

If you want to do a real folded horn for sub lows, prepare to carry something big, and check out BRM's tuba designs.

Otherwise the TL-606 is pretty much a benchmark when you are talking about those EVM's.

Tell me more about this Special 6.

It is a little 6 watt, hand wired p2p amp. Very simple, has a single tone knob, and a volume knob that is push/pull for a gain boost. I run it with my Dually and it sounds pretty fantastic for a $130 used amp. It sounds killer through a 412 with guitar. It would be gigable for my guitards in the cover band, but not clean. As simple as it is, the tone knob is pretty powerful. It goes from bright chime highs to gritty lows. Not a lot of bass vs treble control though.
 
Not very doom, but I'm having difficulty finding clothes that fit. I'm between a small or a very fitted medium, the issue is my shoulders are too wide for most smalls and my height (like 6-6'1 I think) makes some smalls a wee bit short. Anyone in a similar situation found success anywhere, or should I find a place for cheap alterations?

This summer I want to try and get to like 10% or less body fat. Tomorrow's my last exam, then the rest of the month I can tweak my diet more (fixing things starts in the kitchen) and continue expanding my exercise regimen. Lean mean summer ahead.
 
Because there's the Electricamp 4x15 like Al Cisneros used to use, which is huge, with the drivers kinda in a diagonal formation, then there's also the Sunn 4x15 with the angled baffles (though with kinda low internal volume, which is probably why it was ported), and then there's also the Hiwatt 4x15 and the Marshall Lemmy style 4x15, which are, I think, just upscaled versions of their bass 4x12 cabs, drivers arranged in a square. Trace Elliot made a 4x15, too, and it was this shape, but ported.

You could also just find a good sealed 2x15 design and just double everything. Maybe even do two chambers (or four, if the 2x15 had each driver in a separate chamber).

how do you talk about 415s and leave out the 408 (the COOLEST one haha)

and what hiwatt 415 are you referring to? pics would be awesome as ive never seen/heard of one.
 
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Not very doom, but I'm having difficulty finding clothes that fit. I'm between a small or a very fitted medium, the issue is my shoulders are too wide for most smalls and my height (like 6-6'1 I think) makes some smalls a wee bit short. Anyone in a similar situation found success anywhere, or should I find a place for cheap alterations?

This summer I want to try and get to like 10% or less body fat. Tomorrow's my last exam, then the rest of the month I can tweak my diet more (fixing things starts in the kitchen) and continue expanding my exercise regimen. Lean mean summer ahead.

I'm in a similar situation at 5'11". My only solution is trying on lots and lots of different shirts to make sure they have the right length. Eventually I can find a medium that's more of an athletic fit. If you buy large you can have it altered but I try to find things that fit right.

The most difficult things are t shirts. I need to remember to get only those with synthetic fabrics because they shrink. I think once I start running before work in the mornings I can burn off some of this midsection and get into a few more shirts as well (I'm not overweight, just a couple inches need to come off. I'm something like 175-180lbs).

Freaking clothing.
 
I'm in a similar situation at 5'11". My only solution is trying on lots and lots of different shirts to make sure they have the right length. Eventually I can find a medium that's more of an athletic fit. If you buy large you can have it altered but I try to find things that fit right.

The most difficult things are t shirts. I need to remember to get only those with synthetic fabrics because they shrink. I think once I start running before work in the mornings I can burn off some of this midsection and get into a few more shirts as well (I'm not overweight, just a couple inches need to come off. I'm something like 175-180lbs).

Freaking clothing.

Idk my height, but those that say they are 5'11 and 6' I can tell I'm taller so either I'm taller or they lie about their height. Dunno my
weight either, except I was 260+ this time last year.

I always try to forgo synthetic fibers (I always feel they are super hot here in Texas). Pants and shorts I'm a 32" but I can pull them off without undoing anything, and yet a size 30" won't come up past my knees so not sure what that's about. They are the serious issue as I need new ones every 1-2 months it seems, shirts it's just a pain to juggle sizes and achieve a new wardrobe cheaply. Esp. I try to dress semi well, and if I get a job I'll be having to buy corporate level clothes $$$... Got a bunch of free suits, but the damn shoulder padding is a nightmare, look like Hilary Clinton lol.
 
I made a crude scale layout of the sealed 415 design. Outside measure of the cab is 32.5" wide x 52" tall x 16" deep. There's an internal separation between the top and bottom pairs, with each section having an internal volume of about 6.136 cubic feet. I played around a lot with the dimensions to try to get the balance of the width and height I wanted, getting enough separation between the drivers so I can brace everything well internally and keeping the internal volume somewhat close to other similar cabs I was able to compare against. I noticed a lot of homebrew 215 cabs with the staggered positioning had everything crammed really close together on the baffle and I didn't like that. Too much opportunity for it to flex, I think. I want to be able to get a brace in between them if I can. Already got all the parts priced out, but I'm still figuring a couple things out. I'll probably wait until Nick is done with the amp to start building it, just because I want to make sure the dimensions work with it.

6 fit tall monster Lego man for scale...

415withlegoman_zps467774e3.jpg
 
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Idk my height, but those that say they are 5'11 and 6' I can tell I'm taller so either I'm taller or they lie about their height. Dunno my
weight either, except I was 260+ this time last year.

I always try to forgo synthetic fibers (I always feel they are super hot here in Texas). Pants and shorts I'm a 32" but I can pull them off without undoing anything, and yet a size 30" won't come up past my knees so not sure what that's about. They are the serious issue as I need new ones every 1-2 months it seems, shirts it's just a pain to juggle sizes and achieve a new wardrobe cheaply. Esp. I try to dress semi well, and if I get a job I'll be having to buy corporate level clothes $$$... Got a bunch of free suits, but the damn shoulder padding is a nightmare, look like Hilary Clinton lol.

Do not wear suits with shoulder pads! Find someone who knows how a men's suit should fit and go to the thrift stores, try on a bunch until you find one that fits properly. Once you get one that fits you'll know what to look for, and there's good deals at the thrift stores if you take your time and look.
 
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I made a crude scale layout of the sealed 415 design. Outside measure of the cab is 32.5" wide x 52" tall x 16" deep. There's an internal separation between the top and bottom pairs, with each section having an internal volume of about 6.136 cubic feet. I played around a lot with the dimensions to try to get the balance of the width and height I wanted, getting enough separation between the drivers so I can brace everything well internally and keeping the internal volume somewhat close to other similar cabs I was able to compare against. I noticed a lot of homebrew 215 cabs with the staggered positioning had everything crammed really close together on the baffle and I didn't like that. Too much opportunity for it to flex, I think. I want to be able to get a brace in between them if I can. Already got all the parts priced out, but I'm still figuring a couple things out. I'll probably wait until Nick is done with the amp to start building it, just because I want to make sure the dimensions work with it.

6 fit tall monster Lego man for scale...

415withlegoman_zps467774e3.jpg
I dig. About the perfect height too.
Which drivers legends?
 
you know, while I LOOOVE the tone of my Bergs, Im really coming around to appreciate the value of a good ported cab again.. I think I played crap designed ported cabs for years and thought they all sounded like dog poo... but ported cabs have some REAL advantages, like more volume!
I'll never forget when we played our first show. We blew the dust off the rafters.
 
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