never got into the 80s stuff either. i didn't get into music until i waa 14 or 15 and heard Stone Temple Pilots' Purple album.
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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
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1st album I ever bought - Star Wars Episode 1 Soundtrack
2nd - Paranoid (My brother liked 90's Metallica, and I knew Metallica liked Sabbath!)
Then I went on a Sabbath binge, and one day, while looking for more Black Sabbath, I saw an album by a band called Blind Guardian. Bought it, and thus began my metal wormhole. I went from band to band, based on who liked who or what label they were on or switching to. Never looked back. That's how I skipped pretty much anything remotely popular. Radio stuff? I know the band names, but that's it. Obscure European death metal? Oh, sure, I know all the lineup changes etc. But I love it, so I don't care that few others do.
2nd - Paranoid (My brother liked 90's Metallica, and I knew Metallica liked Sabbath!)
Then I went on a Sabbath binge, and one day, while looking for more Black Sabbath, I saw an album by a band called Blind Guardian. Bought it, and thus began my metal wormhole. I went from band to band, based on who liked who or what label they were on or switching to. Never looked back. That's how I skipped pretty much anything remotely popular. Radio stuff? I know the band names, but that's it. Obscure European death metal? Oh, sure, I know all the lineup changes etc. But I love it, so I don't care that few others do.
Cool music discussion. I would say, in my mind nearly all of the 80s stuff that was easily accessible via radio and MTV whether synthpop, hair metal or the hits of even more mainstream people like Bon Jovi or Bryan Adams, not to mention a ton of the 80s output of older, once-decent bands like Heart or artists like Elton John, was just excrement.
As mentioned, the horrible production techniques wuth gated drums and MIDI everything.
But beneath all that there was some great music happening, IMO, and a very wide range of music.
Butthole Surfers, Meat Puppets, Dinosaur, Jr., Jesus Lizard, Die Kreuzen, Killdozer, early Sonic Youth, early REM, Hunters & Collectors, Nurse With Wound, Coil, Birthday Party, Cocteau Twins, Minutemen, Husker Du, Mission of Burma, Bongwater, Galaxie 500, the best Nirvana stuff, Dwarves, Cows, The Flaming Lips, Spacemen 3...that's a pretty diverse roll call, and only scratches the surface.
I also dug some of the more interesting New Wave bands...Echo & The Bunnymen, Joy Division, Bauhaus, Siouxsie, The Cramps, Wall of Voodoo, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads, early Cure, DEVO, Shriekback, Wire, Screamers, The Vapors, Tenpole Tudor, etc.
Many of these bands were very bass-heavy too.
As mentioned, the horrible production techniques wuth gated drums and MIDI everything.
But beneath all that there was some great music happening, IMO, and a very wide range of music.
Butthole Surfers, Meat Puppets, Dinosaur, Jr., Jesus Lizard, Die Kreuzen, Killdozer, early Sonic Youth, early REM, Hunters & Collectors, Nurse With Wound, Coil, Birthday Party, Cocteau Twins, Minutemen, Husker Du, Mission of Burma, Bongwater, Galaxie 500, the best Nirvana stuff, Dwarves, Cows, The Flaming Lips, Spacemen 3...that's a pretty diverse roll call, and only scratches the surface.
I also dug some of the more interesting New Wave bands...Echo & The Bunnymen, Joy Division, Bauhaus, Siouxsie, The Cramps, Wall of Voodoo, Pere Ubu, Talking Heads, early Cure, DEVO, Shriekback, Wire, Screamers, The Vapors, Tenpole Tudor, etc.
Many of these bands were very bass-heavy too.
And as for Kiss, as one of the resident Old Poots here, lemme say, had I been born 10-15 years later, I expect I'd hate them also.
But, as the universe happened to unfold, I was JUST the right age to have been totally immersed in Kiss.
I realize Gene Simmons is a world class d-bag, and I understand that Kiss early on moved from being a glammy New York rock band off the streets to imitation comic book heroes and a marketing conglomerate, but I will stand behind at least their first couple albums.
Yeah, something of an Alice Cooper ripoff, and I am much more into Alice Cooper, Phase One than I am Kiss, but particularly Kiss' first two albums I contend have some cool, rocky tracks worth absorbing, and I like a few cuts up through Destroyer, at least. Starting out they were just a fun hungry rock band with a big gimmick...pretty juvenile lyrics, yes, but some cool songs and pretty fair, fairly heavy grooves.
Then again, I'm also old enough to genuinely like many of the cheesy 60s-70s horror movies that have been derided here. Derided, I say! Much to my chagrin!
But, as the universe happened to unfold, I was JUST the right age to have been totally immersed in Kiss.
I realize Gene Simmons is a world class d-bag, and I understand that Kiss early on moved from being a glammy New York rock band off the streets to imitation comic book heroes and a marketing conglomerate, but I will stand behind at least their first couple albums.
Yeah, something of an Alice Cooper ripoff, and I am much more into Alice Cooper, Phase One than I am Kiss, but particularly Kiss' first two albums I contend have some cool, rocky tracks worth absorbing, and I like a few cuts up through Destroyer, at least. Starting out they were just a fun hungry rock band with a big gimmick...pretty juvenile lyrics, yes, but some cool songs and pretty fair, fairly heavy grooves.
Then again, I'm also old enough to genuinely like many of the cheesy 60s-70s horror movies that have been derided here. Derided, I say! Much to my chagrin!
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Yep, 80's sucked for the most part...I look back at stuff I remember liking to see if it still holds up and lots of it does.
Pixies
Dwight Yoakam
Current 93
Psychic TV
einstürzende neubauten
Cramps
Replacements
This Heat
Swell Maps
Some Husker Du
There's actually a lot of stuff in thrash and hardcore I still play sometimes
Pixies
Dwight Yoakam
Current 93
Psychic TV
einstürzende neubauten
Cramps
Replacements
This Heat
Swell Maps
Some Husker Du
There's actually a lot of stuff in thrash and hardcore I still play sometimes
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Oh heck you know, the Star Wars original trilogy sound track was the first cd I bought. Super nerds unite!
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Oh heck you know, the Star Wars original trilogy sound track was the first cd I bought. Super nerds unite!
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I still think Jimi Hendrix's TTG Studios recording of Peace in Mississippi is one of the heaviest things I've ever heard. Also Spoonful of off Wheels of Fire. Or Mountain, those guys were heavy, at least for the time I guess. I guess the heaviness isn't necesarily about the tuning or content, but about the riff itself. I mean Immigrant Song and Moby Dick off of How The West Was Won are real heavy imo. I mean, here's some heavy KC.
But Sabbath still takes the cake for me really. Stuff like The Writ, Snowblind, Into The Void, Fairies Wear Boots, Hand of Doom, A National Acrobat. Also, just the Asbury Park recording is great, if I recall they're in C# standard, so War Pigs just sounds burly.
I agree with a lot of what's been said though about the 80s stuff, doesn't strike me as very heavy, just fast and angry. I think Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were heavier than a lot of the 80s stuff. And I absolutely concur with regards to the production in the 80s across the board. What the hell was everyone thinking? Good christ it's awful. As far as getting into music, my mom used to listen to a lot of Fleetwood Mac, and my dad was into a lot of grunge, but also 70s rock, so I always heard Zeppelin, The Who and stuff like that, but they didn't listen to Sabbath or anything. He also made me listen to classical music every morning much to my chagrin (though I enjoy classical plenty now). First CD I ever got from them was a Chuck Berry album after hearing Johnny B. Goode on the radio, then it was an Elvis album, then Beatles and Beach Boys. After that they kinda left me to my own devices, so the first two albums I ever bought myself were AC/DCs Highway to Hell and Paranoid. Then Zeppelin and Aerosmith, then into Hendrix and Cream and Yes and Mountain.
Yeah, I like the fantasy and sci-fi stuff in a lot of music. I catch poopie for loving Rush and Yes and prog rock so much because it's all about elfs and space and knights and stuff, but it's all AWESOME. I'd rather listen to a band sing about conquering the evil space dominion to free the elven princess of mars than another song about hot some girl in a bar is. Blech.
But Sabbath still takes the cake for me really. Stuff like The Writ, Snowblind, Into The Void, Fairies Wear Boots, Hand of Doom, A National Acrobat. Also, just the Asbury Park recording is great, if I recall they're in C# standard, so War Pigs just sounds burly.
I agree with a lot of what's been said though about the 80s stuff, doesn't strike me as very heavy, just fast and angry. I think Soundgarden and Alice in Chains were heavier than a lot of the 80s stuff. And I absolutely concur with regards to the production in the 80s across the board. What the hell was everyone thinking? Good christ it's awful. As far as getting into music, my mom used to listen to a lot of Fleetwood Mac, and my dad was into a lot of grunge, but also 70s rock, so I always heard Zeppelin, The Who and stuff like that, but they didn't listen to Sabbath or anything. He also made me listen to classical music every morning much to my chagrin (though I enjoy classical plenty now). First CD I ever got from them was a Chuck Berry album after hearing Johnny B. Goode on the radio, then it was an Elvis album, then Beatles and Beach Boys. After that they kinda left me to my own devices, so the first two albums I ever bought myself were AC/DCs Highway to Hell and Paranoid. Then Zeppelin and Aerosmith, then into Hendrix and Cream and Yes and Mountain.
Yeah, I like the fantasy and sci-fi stuff in a lot of music. I catch poopie for loving Rush and Yes and prog rock so much because it's all about elfs and space and knights and stuff, but it's all AWESOME. I'd rather listen to a band sing about conquering the evil space dominion to free the elven princess of mars than another song about hot some girl in a bar is. Blech.
Yeah, pretty much how I feel about it. Like what's wrong with fantasy? It's fun. And a more entertaining story, to me, than the singer of some stupid band's talking about nailing some chick he met at a bar. To me, any lyrics about the standard topics have to be really, really well written not only for me to like them... but for them not to annoy me. That's one of my main complaints about 80s stuff. It's pretty much all the same song. "I love you/her." "I'm going to shag you/her." "I already shaged you/her." And "we're gonna rock you (on stage and in bed)."
shag it, I'm just going to tell the seller to send me the 4 ohm versions of the Faitals instead of having to wait like a month for him to get more 8 ohm ones.
Would have been my first, but they were given to me!
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I liked it when punk bands had something to say, hell I just bought an MDC live at CBGB 1983 record this afternoon. There's power in that pissed-off righteous indignation. I guess it seems like a lot of punk bands just sing songs about how punk rock they are, which to me seems like a decidedly un-punk thing to do.
But yeah, loved tons of stuff from the 80s from hardcore to thrash to early doom and death metal.
But yeah, loved tons of stuff from the 80s from hardcore to thrash to early doom and death metal.
My friend has a smaller looking slanted peavey 4x12 the logo is script not pointy and the 12's only say "green product" any idea what they are?
No good can pics he massacred the thing
No good can pics he massacred the thing
Oooh a sovtek Midget 50 with matching 4x10 for $250! Just made my hello hopefully it's available still, been 2 hours up.
I also just spoke to a guy who is selling an entire backline of 70's sunn PA equipment...literally truckloads of equipment. Folded 18's, 2x15's, he's got like 4 colisseum heads he's selling, he's got sunn microphones, mixers, he has it all. He says they're way louder than inf baffle cabs, and I believe him...what can you tell me about the head?
Supposedly they're similar to the JBL D140s that the 2000S would have had stock.
I have EV 15Bs in there right now. Great sounding drivers, but can't take a huge amount of low end really. I'm always worried about blowing them.
If the Faitals work well, I might keep one EV anyway, maybe try it in my Ampeg 1x15, see if I can get that sounding good via adjustment of the ports. If the Faitals don't work well, I'll just resell them. Or attempt to essentially copy a Dually. I think they probably will work, though.
Yeah. To me punk needs to be about something. Lyrics about how punk they are strike me the same as when a band writes about how metal they are... weak.
Snowblind and Into The Void are, unreservedly, my favorite Sabbath songs. Love Planet Caravan too.
The rest of your post is right on also.
I really wish Sleep would cover Into The Void. It would be so perfect for them.
