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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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No whammy though.

PS-- Hmmm. Maple fingerboard and matching headstock? That's odd to me. I don't think I've ever seen a Duo Sonic, including reissues, that didn't have a rosewood board.

All the 90's models are original 50's duo sonic are maple. 93 they had mim 22.5" scale reissues I had one. Then 98 was Chinese affinity. This is a heavily modded affinity model. Got mustang parts
 
Not only here. I recently had an argument about amps on one of Facebook's Stoner/Doom groups. Dude claimed that all you need for a bass rig was a 100w amp, big cab and a mic. Go figure.
Well, that really depends on the 100 watt amp and big cab. V4B through an 8x10 or a Dually or some other efficient 2x15? That would get loud as shag.

My amp is only 180 watts, after all. And I'm frequently the loudest instrument on stage.

However, in some bands, it probably wouldn't cut it. And not any 100 watt amp will do.

Everyone, we've been having a little discussion on FB. We're trying to put together a bandcamp compilation of all our bands. 1 track from each. So if you have some recorded music or going to have something by October/November and would like to be included let me know.

It would just be something we could all use to help promote each other. If you are on Facebook, then send me (Sam Beydoun) a friend request and we can add you to the conversation.
My band's own bandcamp is in my sig. We won't have any new material recorded by then, most likely, but our first album is up.

Good luck on scoring a Mustang. Local CL had a Duo-Sonic listed today.

With you on "multiple genres."

Me and my buddy who are doing some recording both love heavy stonerdoomsludge but we've come to the realization that we'll never really be able to afford the gear it takes to pull that sort of material off in the right way.

I have always been a booster of cheap gear, but with doom, etc., I feel like it calls for higher quality equipment, especially when it comes to amps and recording gear. I just can't see ever being able to get there, but I have lots of other musical interests. I can always listen to good, heavy stuff and make other kinds of music I also enjoy but where lame sound quality doesn't have as great an impact.
Band that opened for Bongripper San Francisco, Chrch, used almost entirely old Peavey rigs and sounded heavy as shag.
 
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Everyone, we've been having a little discussion on FB. We're trying to put together a bandcamp compilation of all our bands. 1 track from each. So if you have some recorded music or going to have something by October/November and would like to be included let me know.

It would just be something we could all use to help promote each other. If you are on Facebook, then send me (Sam Beydoun) a friend request and we can add you to the conversation.

Awesome! We should have at least one track ready by then!

Also: we practiced today in a different room than usual, I was playing through an SWR ST-220 head and made a rookie mistake. Instead of dialing in the EQ I left it flat as we've been in kind of a hurry today and then complained that my dirt pedals sound like crap. The owner came over and just looked at me like I'm an idiot when I was talking to him. Then he went out after us and I spent like 15 minutes talking with him about amps. I'm pretty sure he wanted to make sure I'm not an idiot :D
Guitarist forgot his 1Spot and had to power his board through some generic wall wart that was lying in the room. There was an annoying squeal from his amp throughout the whole practice.
Definitely, out fist EP is going to be called The Cult Of SNAFU.
 
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All the 90's models are original 50's duo sonic are maple. 93 they had mim 22.5" scale reissues I had one. Then 98 was Chinese affinity. This is a heavily modded affinity model. Got mustang parts

Didn't know they made an Affinity model. $300 is crazy.

I had forgotten about the very early 50s Duo Sonics, before Fender put rosewood on anything I think.

Somehow I had it backwards--was thinking the Mustang came before the Duo Sonic (and Musicmaster) but I think the Duos and Musicmasters were mid-50s and the Mustang came along in '65 or so.
 
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Well, that really depends on the 100 watt amp and big cab. V4B through an 8x10 or a Dually or some other efficient 2x15? That would get loud as ****.

My amp is only 180 watts, after all. And I'm frequently the loudest instrument on stage.

However, in some bands, it probably wouldn't cut it. And not any 100 watt amp will do.

I am really NOT a fan of Stevie ray Vaughan or his brother Jimmy's band Fabulous Thunderbirds, but the bass player Keith Ferguson who, I think, played with both SRV and in the T-birds, has a book out. Haven't read it; don't intend to really, but I read somewhere that he said in his entire career he never played any stage with anything bigger than an 80 or 100W amp.

This may be BS--just something I read he supposedly said.

Of course, white boy blues is a far cry from doom, but still, I imagine that guy played a lot of big venues. Mic'd, PA'd...whatever...would like to know his setup and how he pulled this off.
 
I am really NOT a fan of Stevie ray Vaughan or his brother Jimmy's band Fabulous Thunderbirds, but the bass player Keith Ferguson who, I think, played with both SRV and in the T-birds, has a book out. Haven't read it; don't intend to really, but I read somewhere that he said in his entire career he never played any stage with anything bigger than an 80 or 100W amp.

This may be BS--just something I read he supposedly said.

Of course, white boy blues is a far cry from doom, but still, I imagine that guy played a lot of big venues. Mic'd, PA'd...whatever...would like to know his setup and how he pulled this off.
With a big, loud cab.
 
That guy had peavey 3620 cabs I think

I keep my rockmaster master (120w) at somewhere between 1-3. Into my dually, I easily compete with an unmic'ed drummer and I'm at least 75% certain the cops won't be called at that level.

I tried to do the reverse and Max the master and cut the pre and it was clean and so damn loud it was impossible to play near it or for any amount of time. It's got a weird setup you can turn the pre and "pump" (second gain stage) mostly off and the master still works and gets scary loud.
 
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Yeah, but even so, would a 100W amp push that much through a huge cab?

I really do not know amps that well (painfully obvious to everyone else here) but I would have thought that an amp with wattage that low wouldn't necessarily power a big cab.
Why wouldn't it?

The SVT is 300 watts. The cab that goes with it, at least the modern versions, can take 800 watts.
 
Everyone, we've been having a little discussion on FB. We're trying to put together a bandcamp compilation of all our bands. 1 track from each. So if you have some recorded music or going to have something by October/November and would like to be included let me know.

It would just be something we could all use to help promote each other. If you are on Facebook, then send me (Sam Beydoun) a friend request and we can add you to the conversation.

I'm hoping we have out first EP done by then, but we'll see. Also I don't have a Facebook so I'm SOL there!
 
The right 100W amp and cab combo could be just fine, however there's often a need for more than 100W for bass guitar. If that's all anyone ever needed then the SVT wouldn't exist.
Yeah, it really depends what kind of tone you're going for from the amp, what all the rest of the rigs are, what the situation is.

I do fine in a doom band playing a 180 watt amp. Of course, I wouldn't be doing fine if I needed to be that loud and also have a clean sound.
 
I was thinking more BBC with my "fabulous" comment

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'cause I am an eediot?
Bass cabs don't "need" a certain amount of power to work. You can play a 5 watt amp through an 8x10, and it'll still be considerably louder than that same amp with a small cab. Driver efficiency also really comes into play.

For example, the Greenboy Dually is a very efficient cab. Meaning that at a given power, it's notably quite loud.