Indeed. If I was interested in playing clean and loud, I'd be in trouble with my amp. But fortunately, I'm not.
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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
- Thread starter Korladis
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Conversely, though, it IS possible to overpower a cab with an amp that has too many watts? You check what the cabs are rated for before you pump too much through them?
This is what comes of using the same basic amp rig for almost 20 years then not playing for the better part of 15 years.
Yes. There's no such thing as damaging a cab through "underpowering" (though if an amp won't let you get as loud as you need to be in a situation, you could describe it as "underpowered" for that gig).
You can damage a cab with too much power. Either by causing the drivers to go further back and forth than they're designed to, or by sending so much power to it that the voice coil overheats and deforms/melts.
I think there's many situations where a loud, doomy band can do just fine with ~100W for the bass amp. Along with big, efficient cabs, EQ details can play a huge difference, especially if you're talking about a power trio with just one guitar to contend with. In some cases, you could cut pretty much everything below 70 Hz or so (leave that space for the kick drum), allowing the 100W amp to blast the rest of the frequencies nice and loud, as long as the guitar and bass EQ aren't fighting for the same frequencies, it will be plenty full, loud, and deep.
I've kept up with solid, powerful drummers in loud bands with 90-120 W of all-tube bass amp and done just fine.
That being said, those bands were not full-on doomed, stoned volume-worshipping multi-guitar multi-full-stacks types of bands. And I would never support any kind of blanket statement that "no doom band ever needs more than 100W bass amp power". That's just silly. But for SOME bands it does work.
I've kept up with solid, powerful drummers in loud bands with 90-120 W of all-tube bass amp and done just fine.
That being said, those bands were not full-on doomed, stoned volume-worshipping multi-guitar multi-full-stacks types of bands. And I would never support any kind of blanket statement that "no doom band ever needs more than 100W bass amp power". That's just silly. But for SOME bands it does work.
Yeah. My setup wouldn't work for everyone.
That said, 180 watts does all right, even with 2 guitars and keys/third guitar.
But it does come down to EQ, too. I don't have a whole lot going on really down low.
Sunday night wedding & boozin'. Drive home from KC this morning...drove straight to the office. Had to work on putting out some (figurative) fires immediately. Gotta mow parents' lawn after work. I sense an early passing-the-fugg-out tonight.
I've gigged my Traynor YBA-1 through an Ampeg 810 for a gig with the doom metal band I used to play with and blew hair back in a small bar/club. That was before I even had the Dually.
I saw that group chat on FB for the comp thing. Emotionally I want to participate, but I don't have any material or band stuff going on. I'm jamming with a new drummer tonight, so who knows what will happen, but I doubt anything will lead to having recorded tracks done in the near future.
I saw that group chat on FB for the comp thing. Emotionally I want to participate, but I don't have any material or band stuff going on. I'm jamming with a new drummer tonight, so who knows what will happen, but I doubt anything will lead to having recorded tracks done in the near future.
About to head in to band practice, got a backpack full of mics, cables and a 16 channel hard disc recorder. 24 channel mixer in the back seat next to my bass and pedalboard. Going to start getting stuff set up tonight, with the goal of being able to hit record and go next week. We'll see how it goes.
Ive done the mega stacks band before, with VEGA, a 100 watt head no matter how efficient the cab was, it wouldnt compete, 2 cabs maybe. And I still do the mega wall with GH & PVYHenge, although I have no one to compete with there.
So for this new band im making it a point to do more with less. Were going for guitarist with VTM60 with a 412 and my bass 300 (130watt) with my 218. Still plenty loud and heavy.
So for this new band im making it a point to do more with less. Were going for guitarist with VTM60 with a 412 and my bass 300 (130watt) with my 218. Still plenty loud and heavy.
There's only the tracks off the demo. The band hasn't practiced since a little over a year ago. The other dudes just sort of ghosted it and moved on.
I was going to say the same thing re: Warp Rig - what you call a demo could easily be called an EP. The quality is there.
Thanks man, I wish we had recorded more. We were about 3 songs into writing a full length when the band dissolved.
Well almost one year after my band was booked to open for Black Tusk, which was cancelled after Jonathan Athon's tragic death, we are scheduled to open for Black Tusk. I'm thinking it may be the night to debut the 2000s live. Hopefully at that point I'll have my dually, if not I'll use my 810. Should be loud enough miced, but still two full stacks.
I've noticed for like a month at least now craigslist ads are all weird. Like it will show a squier guitar but have the ad words of a drum kit and about half of the ads are like that. Some other people mentioned similar issues in DFW. You guys having that issue?
Also lately people are more and more saying "cash or trade up only" lol. Like guys with a 1999 Mexican strat or an old SS peavey head asking with presumably a straight face for $500 or vintage fenders, marshalls etc.
Clearly stuff is worth what you think it is, but why bother listing it for months on that assumption.
Also lately people are more and more saying "cash or trade up only" lol. Like guys with a 1999 Mexican strat or an old SS peavey head asking with presumably a straight face for $500 or vintage fenders, marshalls etc.
Clearly stuff is worth what you think it is, but why bother listing it for months on that assumption.
I just spent last 2 hours turning knobs in my Megalith. I think I got it tamed, but I had to read like 3 reviews and watch a few demos. The knobs are highly interactive on this beast, especially slope (which is kinda tone knob (KINDA)) and notch & notch shift (mids cut, again KINDA). It cuts a bit of low end until you engage the MORE switch, which is a boost and an additional gain stage and adds megatons of low end. So both switches on all the time. Once I got it dialed in, I found a sweet face melter setting. Too bad our next practice is in 2 weeks and until then I have no chance to try it out with the band. As usual, probably my setting won't cut it in the band and I'll go back to knob turning again.
I love this pedal. It pretty much has only three sounds: nasty, nastier, face melter
I love this pedal. It pretty much has only three sounds: nasty, nastier, face melter
