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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out
- Thread starter Korladis
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Well here is where it all got ugly for me. We played our double headed on the 9/10th. The band got paid pretty decently, $700 a night or $350 each total. It was an out of town gig, so we had to rent a trailer, and covered the gas for the drummers pick up truck as he drove us all.
The issue came when it was time for pay out. Minus gas and trailer rental it came out to $320 a member. We usually take the cost of practice space rental out of the first months gig, rent is $200. I get handed $295, and I am cool. The singer on the other hand is given $195. The drummer who handles the band finances tells him, "collect from your other band for the other 100."
He throws a fit because, "There is no way the 4 other guys (in his side project) are going to cover that." The drummer tells him there are five of them, so coming up with $100 shouldnt be tough. He is still pissed because he has to pay double.
So now with the broken gear, I am pretty sure the locks are getting changed ASAP.
I have used that exact example while talking to my wife within the last week, someone complaining that 4 people can't scrounge up $100 a month between them, as the kind of thing that a horrendously narcissistic and flaky musician who will f*ck you over says.
The only thing I added was how then they will probably go grab some fast food, then buy a bag of weed or 6 pack of beer and later that month, a new video game, collectible sneakers or something else totally frivolous, but they can't afford $25 a month to play music, save up to record or what have you.
The only thing I added was how then they will probably go grab some fast food, then buy a bag of weed or 6 pack of beer and later that month, a new video game, collectible sneakers or something else totally frivolous, but they can't afford $25 a month to play music, save up to record or what have you.
Yep.
"I can buy this junk.... but cant pitch in on a practice space..."
That doesnt add up to me.
Oh man I could find a use for this Taurus 3...
http://www.talkbass.com/threads/moo...-sounding-analog-synth-bass-like-new.1077937/
http://www.talkbass.com/threads/moo...-sounding-analog-synth-bass-like-new.1077937/
I've never had to pay regularly for a practice spot, but if I did it would be a priority. Cook a couple of meals at home, buy the cheaper six pack, carpool or take the bus to work, skip a night at the bar, there's lots of ways to scrape up the few extra dollars...
For us, paying for the space is easy, its all gig money. Not my problem if he is responsible for the second band.
Morning fellas. Spent the last few days in the middle of no where Kentucky getting hammered and stoned all weekend. Mondays suck.
Catch up post: Gigs! Good!, Band issues! Bad!, Gear! Good!, Godzilla! Good!
Now for my post:
I jammed with a guitarist and drummer yesterday afternoon. Both guys really cool, good hang, lots of laughs, very good vibe amongst the three of us.
Played some Pavement, tried some Husker Du, both went aight, I need to 'shed a bunch for the songs.
The really cool part was the riff-jams. The first thing we did was an instrumental jam, drummer kicked off, I added a simple but cool riff, and the guitarist went to town on chords and solos. that was about a 10 minute jam. then to end the session, the guitarist asked if I knew "Dragonaut", and started playing the intro and main riff. I couldn't pick up the intro on the fly, but got the main riff sttled in and we did a 15 mintue jam, just riffing away, lots of solo work, drummer guiding us in changing tempos, which I just kept in the pocket, and added a little variation to the riff. Very Earthless, if that makes sense,
Totally great afternoon.
Funny introduction moment: Drummer rolls in and has a bottle of wine he made for guitar player, also has some home brews in a sixer carton. (both of them are home brewers.) I tell him I don't partake anymore, and he responds with "Did you replace it with anything?" (Pregnant pause). I told him no, but I'm cool with shrubs. He then proceeds to divvy out some to guitar player and himself, and goes on a long winded spiel about supply and stuff.
Guitar player then points to me and says "He's a cop." Drummer stops mid-sentence, and goes all saucer-eyed for about 10 seconds before guitarist starts to crack up.
Now for my post:
I jammed with a guitarist and drummer yesterday afternoon. Both guys really cool, good hang, lots of laughs, very good vibe amongst the three of us.
Played some Pavement, tried some Husker Du, both went aight, I need to 'shed a bunch for the songs.
The really cool part was the riff-jams. The first thing we did was an instrumental jam, drummer kicked off, I added a simple but cool riff, and the guitarist went to town on chords and solos. that was about a 10 minute jam. then to end the session, the guitarist asked if I knew "Dragonaut", and started playing the intro and main riff. I couldn't pick up the intro on the fly, but got the main riff sttled in and we did a 15 mintue jam, just riffing away, lots of solo work, drummer guiding us in changing tempos, which I just kept in the pocket, and added a little variation to the riff. Very Earthless, if that makes sense,
Totally great afternoon.
Funny introduction moment: Drummer rolls in and has a bottle of wine he made for guitar player, also has some home brews in a sixer carton. (both of them are home brewers.) I tell him I don't partake anymore, and he responds with "Did you replace it with anything?" (Pregnant pause). I told him no, but I'm cool with shrubs. He then proceeds to divvy out some to guitar player and himself, and goes on a long winded spiel about supply and stuff.
Guitar player then points to me and says "He's a cop." Drummer stops mid-sentence, and goes all saucer-eyed for about 10 seconds before guitarist starts to crack up.
Sounds like fun times man. Hopefully I'm going to have a jam with a guitarist this week and maybe the same drummer I jammed with on Friday. The guy didn't really have his stuff together jamming on the fly, so I recorded some riffs and sent them to him with a click track, so he can write and practice something to it. Then I'll no for sure if he can hack it or not. Just heard from a guitarist last night, waiting to meet up with him. It's progress, at least.
Nice! Sounds like a good couple of dudes, hope it continues to work out. It reminded me of something that happened as I was heading to practice on Friday. I was hauling in my amp and pedal board when I heard someone yelling at me. "Hey dude!" Couldn't see who it was at first, then I spotted a shaved-headed, goateed dude two houses down.
He says "Hey you guys rock, can I come over and check out the band sometime?"
I told him I'd have to ask the guy that lived there (guitar player's house), he says OK, then I tell him we're setting up some shows, blah blah blah. Then he mentions that he's a home-brewer and offers to come over with a couple of growlers next time we have practice. I doubt Jon will want him to hang out, but I'll be nice to the dude and take his beer.
So I saw Gojira and Mastodon the other night.
Gojira is insanely good live. The only problem with them is that they have a bit of a nu metal vibe about their performance especially the bass player. I feel like he picked up most of his moves while watching a Deftones video or something.
Mastodon seemed really tired and played kind of sloppy. I will however stand by my previous assertions that The Hunter was written with live shows in mind. Those songs sound so much better than all their other stuff live. I think there are two reasons why. First, they are just less complex so they can pull them off a bit easier. Some of the older songs just sound so sloppy live, and I doubt many people could play them better. Sure other bands are faster or more technical but few bands are as fast and technical yet still play with such a good groove. I mean sure there are tons of metal bands that play faster more complicated stuff but it is usually very straight, Mastodon has way more feel. Second, there is just more room in those songs so they come across a lot better.
Both guitarists had Orange stacks and Troy had a Mesa 8x10 and 4x12. He also had what looked like an Orange 2x12 on top of each of the Mesa cabs but I think it was for looks. No idea what heads anyone was using because they were all in the back. I will have to say that Troy sounded much much better on his Warwick than he did his Signature Fender (I think those were the only two he used). The Warwick cut so much better but I am not sure what the tunings on each was so the Fender may have been his BEAD bass which could explain why it didn't cut as well.
Gojira is insanely good live. The only problem with them is that they have a bit of a nu metal vibe about their performance especially the bass player. I feel like he picked up most of his moves while watching a Deftones video or something.
Mastodon seemed really tired and played kind of sloppy. I will however stand by my previous assertions that The Hunter was written with live shows in mind. Those songs sound so much better than all their other stuff live. I think there are two reasons why. First, they are just less complex so they can pull them off a bit easier. Some of the older songs just sound so sloppy live, and I doubt many people could play them better. Sure other bands are faster or more technical but few bands are as fast and technical yet still play with such a good groove. I mean sure there are tons of metal bands that play faster more complicated stuff but it is usually very straight, Mastodon has way more feel. Second, there is just more room in those songs so they come across a lot better.
Both guitarists had Orange stacks and Troy had a Mesa 8x10 and 4x12. He also had what looked like an Orange 2x12 on top of each of the Mesa cabs but I think it was for looks. No idea what heads anyone was using because they were all in the back. I will have to say that Troy sounded much much better on his Warwick than he did his Signature Fender (I think those were the only two he used). The Warwick cut so much better but I am not sure what the tunings on each was so the Fender may have been his BEAD bass which could explain why it didn't cut as well.
Yeah, it was very "organic" according to the guitarist. free=flowing, everyone in the same head space, Just veryeasy feeling.
Congrats Kawai, that's the way jammin' should be. Funny burn on the drummer too lol.
It usually doesnt matter for me long term. I can turn a gloss neck to an unfinished neck after enough playing.
