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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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Corey Y said:
That's the reason they both get the hype they do. They played crazy loud live shows, so they have these reputations as being noisy and huge sounding bands, but the albums really don't live up to that rep.
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That and after the fame Kevin shields went ape and bought like every pedal in existence. Read any thread, and you'll notice people see pictures and think "holy hell I need all of that to be badass". They don't realize he even states 90% of the time it's just him strumming while holding the whammy into a Marshall shredmaster, a reverb rack unit and a Marshall amp.

I never listened to anything new, but I know he stated he wasn't even sure anything needed to come after loveless. Probably because to sound awesome and like MBV he'd just have to rehash that album. his tone is that music and kinda self limits itself.
 
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Squanch72 said:
Son Volt and Wilco got me into alt-country so I'm alright with Uncle Tupelo and it's take me back nostalgia music I guess, nothing special though. I don't dig all of Wilco but some I really like. I do like the new Star Wars album. I love all the effects sillyness that Nels Cline does on it.
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Son volt from what my mom plays can be good. Wilco I bought their CD's and mom took them before I got a good listen. The soundtrack to the new film or is their an album called Star Wars unrelated to the film?





I think my idea of alt country falls more into a cowpunk, crunge (country grunge lol). I'm also really into Appalachian music, the beauty and timelessness counter pointed by the fact it all has a creepy Deliverance vibe.
 
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Blank_0101 said:
Son volt from what my mom plays can be good. Wilco I bought their CD's and mom took them before I got a good listen. The soundtrack to the new film or is their an album called Star Wars unrelated to the film?





I think my idea of alt country falls more into a cowpunk, crunge (country grunge lol). I'm also really into Appalachian music, the beauty and timelessness counter pointed by the fact it all has a creepy Deliverance vibe.
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There's some Wilco on the Jesus' Son soundtrack too.

You ever see the movie Searching for the Wrong-Eyes Jesus? You would probably dig that. It's got that depressing poor Appalachia and Southern vibe to it.
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Corey Y said:
That's the reason they both get the hype they do. They played crazy loud live shows, so they have these reputations as being noisy and huge sounding bands, but the albums really don't live up to that rep.
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I agree, although I would say that at the time, both bands had pretty unique sounds. As often happens, a relatively fresh band with something that might be considered remotely innovative comes along, and a week later there is a feeding frenzy among labels to sign (or manufacture) 50 bands that sound/look as much like them as possible. At least this was the way it often happened until recently. Then, for people who might have not been interested while it was happening, or who were too young at the time, or whatever (not saying this is true of you or anyone else here, at all--I know people here are more knowledgeable about music than the public at large) but a decade after the fact, it's often hard to differentiate between the initial band or style and the "coat tail riders and hangers-on. Most people wouldn't even consider it something to think about.
 
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Muddslide said:
I agree, although I would say that at the time, both bands had pretty unique sounds. As often happens, a relatively fresh band with something that might be considered remotely innovative comes along, and a week later there is a feeding frenzy among labels to sign (or manufacture) 50 bands that sound/look as much like them as possible. At least this was the way it often happened until recently. Then, for people who might have not been interested while it was happening, or who were too young at the time, or whatever (not saying this is true of you or anyone else here, at all--I know people here are more knowledgeable about music than the public at large) but a decade after the fact, it's often hard to differentiate between the initial band or style and the "coat tail riders and hangers-on. Most people wouldn't even consider it something to think about.
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They both definitely have a lot of good points and important cultural context for the time. A lot of bands just sort of develop a mythology of what the band is that has more to do with the context or some key live shows for a short period of time, than the actual recorded output. Some of them, without the context, don't seem to resemble their reputation at all. I think Sleep inhabits that in a huge way at this point. For the time they seemed really unique and heavy, but compared to everything that has come after, the band's recorded output doesn't really live up to the mythical stature as the peak of doom/stoner metal or heavy music in general.
 
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Blank_0101 said:
...I know he stated he wasn't even sure anything needed to come after loveless. Probably because to sound awesome and like MBV he'd just have to rehash that album. his tone is that music and kinda self limits itself.
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Good point.

Blank_0101 said:
I think my idea of alt country falls more into a cowpunk, crunge (country grunge lol). I'm also really into Appalachian music, the beauty and timelessness counter pointed by the fact it all has a creepy Deliverance vibe.
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I have a lot--I mean a LOT--of recordings of old rural blues and country stringband music from the 1920s and 30s. Hit me up if interested.

Corey Y said:
A lot of bands just sort of develop a mythology of what the band is that has more to do with the context or some key live shows for a short period of time, than the actual recorded output. Some of them, without the context, don't seem to resemble their reputation at all. I think Sleep inhabits that in a huge way at this point. For the time they seemed really unique and heavy, but compared to everything that has come after, the band's recorded output doesn't really live up to the mythical stature as the peak of doom/stoner metal or heavy music in general.
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Also good points. Yup.
 
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Youtubing around today, I've noticed the stuff I'm listening to gets listed as dark Americana/death country/southern gothic.

Trouble is that it's pretty much just scary alt country. That means it gets tossed in with psychobilly, rockabilly and that fast traveler kid folk punk stuff with banjos and saws. All of which I really don't like.

To generate a label for myself and what I want.

A juxtaposition of Antebellum and reconstruction attitudes and feelings, mixed into an ambient spacey darkness. Rock, blues and classic country techniques within the familiar yet otherworldly droning tinge of Hill people music, several galaxies removed. All with a slightly mythic twist on real ideas.

Edit: The Firefly and Serenity soundtracks do a good job instrumentally .
 
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Blank_0101 said:
Youtubing around today, I've noticed the stuff I'm listening to gets listed as dark Americana/death country/southern gothic.

Trouble is that it's pretty much just scary alt country. That means it gets tossed in with psychobilly, rockabilly and that fast traveler kid folk punk stuff with banjos and saws. All of which I really don't like.

To generate a label for myself and what I want.

A juxtaposition of Antebellum and reconstruction attitudes and feelings, mixed into an ambient spacey darkness. Rock, blues and classic country techniques within the familiar yet otherworldly droning tinge of Hill people music, several galaxies removed. All with a slightly mythic twist on real ideas.

Edit: The Firefly and Serenity soundtracks do a good job instrumentally .
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Less on the spacey side, but I think The Builders and the Butchers comes close?



 
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Babysitting a washing machine is much like watching angry paint dry.
Trying to dye some old sheets a stone/concrete color for the wife's costume.
Already lost one batch of dye to an unexpected spin cycle, won't be fooled again.
I suck at domestic.
 
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Blank_0101 said:
I've listened to them before, that whole second album for sure. Need to again to refresh myself in them.

Ray LaMontagne, totally not what I described, but he's on point too lol.
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I dig em, the singer annoyed the poopie out of me at first, but it grew on me.

...and with that I'm going home. Haunted house with wife, then a rock n roll show with one of my favorite local bands. Still recovering from Yob, but shag it.
 

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