Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

[bassboysam]

So....what kind of effects you use live then?

i should specify, analog synths and octaves that can be tricky to track, i don't use live. digital and predictable for me. in the studio i have time to setup and the extra effort is worth it for the analog tone.

 

[eyeballkid]

Gotcha. I was having a crisis where i thought one of the few things i actually KNEW as good and constant in the universe had shifted.

 

[Blank_0101]

I like my analog and my digital. I hate digital OD/fuzz/distortion and I hate analog delay, both equally worthless to me.

@askrere what are you looking for out of analog that you get from digital? Specific effect types?

The OC2 is the ultimate octave down in my opinion. But I wouldn't use it for anything outside of standard tuning.

Oh the OC-2 was cheap so I bought it, only using it on guitar and keys, and keys was good, guitar meh. The OC-3 I had before tracked my lower tuned (drop C) guitar at the time really really well. So hoping it'll sit right on everything other than my down tuned bass.

 

[Blank_0101]

I'd love an isolated Peavey musician 400 spring reverb and tremolo clone. Said this before, still stands, unless I can find a schematic, and then see if anyone can point me at circuits in production like theirs.

 

[eyeballkid]

Man fellas, been playing the Ashdown rig... holy hell do i like it!

 

[Bassic Playing]

Man fellas, been playing the Ashdown rig... holy hell do i like it!

Any sound clips coming?

 

[mc_muench]

I'd love an isolated Peavey musician 400 spring reverb and tremolo clone. Said this before, still stands, unless I can find a schematic, and then see if anyone can point me at circuits in production like theirs.

Ive always wanted a supermoon clone into a spring reverb in one box.

Got word that my rockmaster is in tranist via band van. Guys dropping it off while on tour.

 

[eyeballkid]

Any sound clips coming?

I might be able to make a demo video soon.

 

[Korladis]

analog effects are more useful in studio. i wouldn't mess with them live

Wait... what?

i should specify, analog synths and octaves that can be tricky to track, i don't use live. digital and predictable for me. in the studio i have time to setup and the extra effort is worth it for the analog tone.

I'm honestly not sure which effects of mine are analog and which are digital. I would assume the Bass Big Muff and Swollen Pickle are analog, and the wah is digital, but I don't know. I have no idea how the EHX Holy Grail works, and it just replaced the Digiverb I was using before, that was digital.

The two effects I have coming are fairly obviously digital.

 

[Korladis]

Full set:

 

[Blank_0101]

So to show my age, I've never used a slide projector or even seen one in use in person.

I have a set of like 200 slides my friend gave me that are all USSR military vehicles for identification practice. It would be cool to get that up and running. If I could get a free one or cheap from thrift store? Is the bulb likely to be hard to source of worn out?

 

[The_Janitor]

slide projector bulb - Google Search

 

[D.M.N.]

New Precision bass arrived today. Just got a brief play over my lunch period, but I'm liking it. Needs some setup work (bit of truss rod adjustment, re-set the action, adjust pickups) and a string change (came with GHS flats, which, from the short test, I prefer to the Fender ones, but I'm still going to sling on some RS66s), but it's pretty sweet. The finish on the '62 body, which is an '02, is WAY thinner than my '06 Precision. I may just leave the paint as it is, though I'm still debating re-ranching it. We'll see. The '58 neck is very comfy, and it has a great finish on it, as I would expect from the AV series. Definitely deeper than the '62 neck, but I've become far less picky about neck shape than I used to be.

If I decide to keep it, I think I'll have reached critical mass on basses and am going to need to sell some, guess I'll figure that out later. The Orville T-bird I was thinking of trading for disappeared, so the Precision will stick around for a little bit at least. Now if I could just track down a Greco Thunderbird II...

 

[Bassic Playing]

Now if I could just track down a Greco Thunderbird II...

You'd be in Thunderbird heaven, trust me. I wish I had 3. Apart from lack of upper fret access, its my holy grail bird.

 

[D.M.N.]

You'd be in Thunderbird heaven, trust me. I wish I had 3. Apart from lack of upper fret access, its my holy grail bird.

I'm going to try to go down and visit Tbird1958 sometime soon and try out his II, see how I feel about them. I'm finally coming to terms with the fact that I'm a Precision bass man, and from I've heard those Grecos are about as close as I'd get in a Tbird. Wider, more Fender-like neck, one pickup with lots of growl in a sweet spot. And that might be the route of it more than just the Precision, I just like one pickup. Barring the Ric and EB-3, which I do like the combo of both on, I only ever use the neck pickups on the Jazz and Thunderbird, and on the Ric I primarily use the horseshoe I'd probably be totally fine with it as a 4000. I really love the way the Bird body feels as far as how it supports my right arm, so it seems like the Greco would be a good middle ground between the features I like in a precision and a thunderbird. Plus, the IIs just look cool all stripped down, and I'd love to refinish one in Ice Blue Metallic.

 

[Korladis]

You should really try a T-bird IV in series.

 

[Bassic Playing]

I'm going to try to go down and visit Tbird1958 sometime soon and try out his II, see how I feel about them. I'm finally coming to terms with the fact that I'm a Precision bass man, and from I've heard those Grecos are about as close as I'd get in a Tbird. Wider, more Fender-like neck, one pickup with lots of growl in a sweet spot. And that might be the route of it more than just the Precision, I just like one pickup. Barring the Ric and EB-3, which I do like the combo of both on, I only ever use the neck pickups on the Jazz and Thunderbird, and on the Ric I primarily use the horseshoe I'd probably be totally fine with it as a 4000. I really love the way the Bird body feels as far as how it supports my right arm, so it seems like the Greco would be a good middle ground between the features I like in a precision and a thunderbird. Plus, the IIs just look cool all stripped down, and I'd love to refinish one in Ice Blue Metallic.

'Good middle ground between P and Bird' is exactly how I think of it. I would describe the tone as being Precisiony, but with a little more upper mid aggression. The neck is very precision-like, and the 33' scale makes it feel very similar, without that long reach your normally get with birds. You'd want to put a new strap pin in the normal modern placement though, the Grecos originally have them on the upper 'horn' I think, which is neck dive city (That's how mine was, anyway). Little more head dive than modern birds because of the bigger headstock, but nothing too major with a nice strap.

 

[Bassic Playing]

You should really try a T-bird IV in series.

I want to try this. Do you know where I could find a decent wiring schematic?

 

[Korladis]

'Good middle ground between P and Bird' is exactly how I think of it. I would describe the tone as being Precisiony, but with a little more upper mid aggression. The neck is very precision-like, and the 33' scale makes it feel very similar, without that long reach your normally get with birds. You'd want to put a new strap pin in the normal modern placement though, the Grecos originally have them on the upper 'horn' I think, which is neck dive city (That's how mine was, anyway). Little more head dive than modern birds because of the bigger headstock, but nothing too major with a nice strap.

Interesting that they're 33" scale, like Rics.

I want to try this. Do you know where I could find a decent wiring schematic?

Probably online somewhere? I didn't do it myself, I had it done at the same time as having it setup BEAD and getting the tone pot replaced with a pickup switch.

 

[D.M.N.]

'Good middle ground between P and Bird' is exactly how I think of it. I would describe the tone as being Precisiony, but with a little more upper mid aggression. The neck is very precision-like, and the 33' scale makes it feel very similar, without that long reach your normally get with birds. You'd want to put a new strap pin in the normal modern placement though, the Grecos originally have them on the upper 'horn' I think, which is neck dive city (That's how mine was, anyway). Little more head dive than modern birds because of the bigger headstock, but nothing too major with a nice strap.

And I do love some strong mids, so more upper mids is just swell in my book.


Speaking of mids, did some setup on the new 58/62 P, got the action adjusted and strung up some new Rotos. Did some quick head to head with the '62. The 58/62 has the Fender Pure Vintage '58 pickup which features the tall A-string magnets. Straight of the bat, not a fan of the staggered pole pieces. The A-side has to be set way lower to try to balance the pickups, and I need to raise the E to compensate. The D & G also seem pretty week, and I had to bring them up a lot, and they still don't seem totally on par with the other two strings. Plus, when I pick over the pickup I now feel the pickup, and I'm not terribly fond of that. All that said, it's a pretty good sounding pickup. The biggest negative is that the G seems pretty weak when compared with the other strings, with the D similarly weaker. But they have a lot of brightness across all the strings (part of this could be the brand new RS66s, but all of the strings seem to really sparkle). The A is understandably very powerful, but interestingly enough I'd say this pickup has less low mids than the Original '62. Now I put new RS66 steel strings on the '62 Precision Sunday, so yes they've already lost some sparkle, and I might put on another set of Nickel Swings tomorrow just to have a more level playing field with the 58/62. But as it stands, the '62 has less sparkle in the top end, but more balance across all the strings and a much more gut punching low mid profile. The '58 pickups seem to have more high end, but again, don't have the same girth in the low mids on the A string. I can update more once the strings are more equalled out (either the same set or after a few days). My immediate thought process is I'm most likely going to look to trade the '58 pup for a set of the '63 Pure Vintage pickups, just to be rid of the staggered poles, but we'll see how it plays out over the next few days.