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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

No hernia here. But I know how to lift in a healthy manner, and I am not over taxing myself trying to lift 100 pounds head height. Maybe those old fudgers just need to hit the gym. ;)
Seems likely.

Also a lot of folks on the amps forum seem to think that it's nostalgic older players who hold onto tube heads, and younger players who embrace IEMs, etc. While there are some, it usually seems to be the reverse, to me.
 
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the most common bass amps I've seen live are SVT3 Pros, hartke and traynor monoblocks. saw a Markbass head once and no other class D. I'm sure the cover scene is different though

You forgot the jazz types and bass for Jesus guys who are also want small and unobtrusive and like to pop up in effects threads about how their favourite pedal is the cord between their bass and amp they sometimes step on.
 
I really want a red-knob Model T. But the last one I saw for sale was like $2500 or something else ridiculous. :(

Duh, of course, totally spaced the Model T. So I guess to revise that would be Model T heads (due to trendiness), Model 60 (with cab, due to rarity/colelctibility), Coliseum T (due to prototype/rare status), Coliseum PA (Mountain connection), 1000s series, 100s series.

There's as much a push to own status things for younger people, as older. That's universal.

The difference is those guys re into buying smaller/lighter/techier, where as people who are younger but into the more out there music scenes put emphasis on things like "vintage" and weirdness.

Or, at least that's the general feeling I've gotten. Whether it's pride in using cheap stuff, the look of old gear, or a genuine opinion that tube is better... I mean, people still buy albums and suddenl that's having a resurgence.

And yes, I do understand the theoretical superiority of an analog LP versus a digital CD, but if we're being honest that album's signal probably went through a digital step or two along it's way and any superiority in an album is shot after you run a needle across it a few times.

But, people like what people like, and simply can't accept opinions may differ.

I do feel like there's status in the gear I own, but for me at least I don't think it's just weirdness or vintage. If Sunn built new gear the exact same, I'd buy that. For me it's quality, proven track record, sound aspects, visual aspect, and the fact that it's the same gear that was used on some of my favorite music. The look to me is a big aspect, the imposing visual of a huge stack of amps (that are actually being used).

And absolutely TB leans to an older population, same with The Gear Page (I do love looking at Marshall stacks), which totally skews the general preferences. I have friends that use smaller rigs, but usually it's GK gear, like the 400rb, or maybe newer combo amps (I remember seeing a number of Fender Rumble combos at school) I don't think any of them use Class D. Look at how many threads there are about things being too loud. I mean, tbh, TB might be one of the least rock n roll forums on the internet. And while seeing someone roll in a huge stack may make the older folks backs hurt, I don't think it's ever failed to make younger audience members eyes pop. Whether people listen to the type of music or not, they still associate big amps with a certain...idk, awe? Power? A "woah, I've never seen anything like it!", especially when you using that type of rig outside a genre like Doom where it's par for the course. You roll that type of setup into a show with mostly more indie/hipster bands, and people take notice. There is a status with that sort of amp.
 
Duh, of course, totally spaced the Model T. So I guess to revise that would be Model T heads (due to trendiness), Model 60 (with cab, due to rarity/colelctibility), Coliseum T (due to prototype/rare status), Coliseum PA (Mountain connection), 1000s series, 100s series.



I do feel like there's status in the gear I own, but for me at least I don't think it's just weirdness or vintage. If Sunn built new gear the exact same, I'd buy that. For me it's quality, proven track record, sound aspects, visual aspect, and the fact that it's the same gear that was used on some of my favorite music. The look to me is a big aspect, the imposing visual of a huge stack of amps (that are actually being used).

And absolutely TB leans to an older population, same with The Gear Page (I do love looking at Marshall stacks), which totally skews the general preferences. I have friends that use smaller rigs, but usually it's GK gear, like the 400rb, or maybe newer combo amps (I remember seeing a number of Fender Rumble combos at school) I don't think any of them use Class D. Look at how many threads there are about things being too loud. I mean, tbh, TB might be one of the least rock n roll forums on the internet. And while seeing someone roll in a huge stack may make the older folks backs hurt, I don't think it's ever failed to make younger audience members eyes pop. Whether people listen to the type of music or not, they still associate big amps with a certain...idk, awe? Power? A "woah, I've never seen anything like it!", especially when you using that type of rig outside a genre like Doom where it's par for the course. You roll that type of setup into a show with mostly more indie/hipster bands, and people take notice. There is a status with that sort of amp.
With the Model Ts, among guitarists, the silver knob ones are more desireable, as the red knob's tone stack is different (in a way that I like for bass).

Well, if Sunn built new gear, I'd want it to be a little different, but mainly just in the sense of having modern features. You know, basic stuff like three prong power cords, no silly polarity switches, send/return jacks on the back, buddy handles, that sort of thing. And heftier castors on the cabs.

My drummer's amp, that I've used when mine has been in the shop, is a GK. It's not actually that light. Good amp, though. I occasionally see Orange terror bass heads used. Or hybrid ampegs. But when I see a rock show, it's usually some sort of tube amp or lead sled solid state amp for bass.

Tiny computers... but big amps. That seems to be the way of people my age.
 
Looking for options on a thick, gnarly tone from my guitar. Thinking maybe fuzz? Doesn't have to be fuzz though. What would be some options to start on? Thinking boutique, but not necessarily. I want a tight bottom, and mids that cut through without overbearing highs. Liked the Supercollider I had briefly, and my tone goals have matured (i.e. I know what works better in the mix) so it's on top. I also have a Pharaoh Supreme, but am thinking I want higher gain for guitar. Suggestions?

Seem to like distortion-y fuzz, like the FatMetal. Keep trying to tweak the Pickle for guitar, but can't quite get it right. Think I might prefer it for bass, but am also open to suggestions for that.

For tone reference, I'm digging High On Fire type tones in general lately. Which is why I think maybe Pharaoh. (Yes, I know BAT now has a Matt Pike signature, but don't want to be pigeon-holed into a specific tone necessarily, just a ballpark idea.)
 
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No hernia here. But I know how to lift in a healthy manner, and I am not over taxing myself trying to lift 100 pounds head height. Maybe those old fudgers just need to hit the gym. ;)

I struggle to lift my cl400 on top of the dually stack and I am not weak by any means. My back is a little screwy though.

One cab, stairs and general movement are no problem, but lifting it shoulder height hurts my back a bit every time. As long as I get a hand with that everything's all good. I can do it, I just have to see the chiro the next day.
 
Looking for options on a thick, gnarly tone from my guitar. Thinking maybe fuzz? Doesn't have to be fuzz though. What would be some options to start on? Thinking boutique, but not necessarily. I want a tight bottom, and mids that cut through without overbearing highs. Liked the Supercollider I had briefly, and my tone goals have matured (i.e. I know what works better in the mix) so it's on top. I also have a Pharaoh Supreme, but am thinking I want higher gain for guitar. Suggestions?

Seem to like distortion-y fuzz, like the FatMetal. Keep trying to tweak the Pickle for guitar, but can't quite get it right. Think I might prefer it for bass, but am also open to suggestions for that.

For tone reference, I'm digging High On Fire type tones in general lately. Which is why I think maybe Pharaoh. (Yes, I know BAT now has a Matt Pike signature, but don't want to be pigeon-holed into a specific tone necessarily, just a ballpark idea.)


I'm thinking LSTR over a pharaoh
 
I've been loving the black arts tone works quantum mystic. It works really well for some chunky bottom end. It seems to be really versatile. I'm sure it's a clone of something I'm just not 100% on it. Maybe a muff. If you want I'll get some clips of it.
 
I've been loving the black arts tone works quantum mystic. It works really well for some chunky bottom end. It seems to be really versatile. I'm sure it's a clone of something I'm just not 100% on it. Maybe a muff. If you want I'll get some clips of it.
Would love some. I think it's a DOD250, which I've had a few of but never could quite dial in. Always wanted one with EQ. Thanks!
 

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