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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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gfen said:
I traded my TDI in for a gasser at the height of the fuel crisis like what, 10 years ago? Yeah. Damn. That was a long time.

Anyways, diesel fuel was like 2x the cost of gasoline and wasn't giving me that good of a return on investment. I wouldn't have had that much of cost increase, fuel wise, with a big ole V8 under the hood in lieu of the little turbo 1.9 smoker. Matter of fact, I tried very hard to convince the wife we should buy the Doge Magnum wagon with the V8 in it, but evidently that was irresponsible.
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I actual get pretty good milage in my truck. Way better than I did in my jeep. We got about a food of snow today, and I don't care about gas, because I can get around.
 
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So, been trying the Quantum Mystic and various others on guitar to get a good doom tone. Plenty of good ones, but none quite exactly what I've been looking for. Think I've finally found it (at least the distortion-y side of it) in the FatMetal, though could make do with plenty of others. For the "fuzz" side of things, I kept trying the QM and Swollen Pickle, but neither quite got there. Loved the QM's EQ for shaping, but always sounded too loose for me. The Pickle just had plenty of wool, but either too much bite and high end or too little definition. So I finally got to trying the Pharaoh Supreme on my bass board on guitar. With minimal adjustments, I got the fuzz tone I've been after for months in guitar. It's been right there the whole time!

Anyway, this got me thinking. With all the likely hundreds of muff variations out there, has anyone just made one with a 3 band EQ? There are blends, various diodes, tone knobs, tone switches, pre gain controls, high knobs, depth knobs and all sorts of other mods, but I can't think of a single muff with an actual 3 band EQ. Did I miss it? Seems like there should be at least one by now. Or is this one of those things that for some reason wouldn't work, and my ignorance of pedal construction is in the way?
 
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kleinenenten said:
So, been trying the Quantum Mystic and various others on guitar to get a good doom tone. Plenty of good ones, but none quite exactly what I've been looking for. Think I've finally found it (at least the distortion-y side of it) in the FatMetal, though could make do with plenty of others. For the "fuzz" side of things, I kept trying the QM and Swollen Pickle, but neither quite got there. Loved the QM's EQ for shaping, but always sounded too loose for me. The Pickle just had plenty of wool, but either too much bite and high end or too little definition. So I finally got to trying the Pharaoh Supreme on my bass board on guitar. With minimal adjustments, I got the fuzz tone I've been after for months in guitar. It's been right there the whole time!

Anyway, this got me thinking. With all the likely hundreds of muff variations out there, has anyone just made one with a 3 band EQ? There are blends, various diodes, tone knobs, tone switches, pre gain controls, high knobs, depth knobs and all sorts of other mods, but I can't think of a single muff with an actual 3 band EQ. Did I miss it? Seems like there should be at least one by now. Or is this one of those things that for some reason wouldn't work, and my ignorance of pedal construction is in the way?
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Huh, I thought one of abominable electronics varieties of the Hail Satan did, but when I look again it's just highs and mids...
 
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socialleper said:
Are flat wound strings so popular with stoner and doom players because a lot of articulation isn't desirable in the genre, or because they are stiffer and a little more stable at lower tunings?
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I feel like flats give me a more bludgeoning fundamental that's nice in doomier songs. But I agree they take some more love to get a good sound when you're adding distortion. My primary instrument is actually the cello, so flats tend to feel like home to me, though.
 
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kleinenenten said:
So, been trying the Quantum Mystic and various others on guitar to get a good doom tone. Plenty of good ones, but none quite exactly what I've been looking for. Think I've finally found it (at least the distortion-y side of it) in the FatMetal, though could make do with plenty of others. For the "fuzz" side of things, I kept trying the QM and Swollen Pickle, but neither quite got there. Loved the QM's EQ for shaping, but always sounded too loose for me. The Pickle just had plenty of wool, but either too much bite and high end or too little definition. So I finally got to trying the Pharaoh Supreme on my bass board on guitar. With minimal adjustments, I got the fuzz tone I've been after for months in guitar. It's been right there the whole time!

Anyway, this got me thinking. With all the likely hundreds of muff variations out there, has anyone just made one with a 3 band EQ? There are blends, various diodes, tone knobs, tone switches, pre gain controls, high knobs, depth knobs and all sorts of other mods, but I can't think of a single muff with an actual 3 band EQ. Did I miss it? Seems like there should be at least one by now. Or is this one of those things that for some reason wouldn't work, and my ignorance of pedal construction is in the way?
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Honestly I hate fuzz pedals on guitar (when I use them... other people get good sounds). For me it's amp overdrive all the way.
 
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Korladis said:
Honestly I hate fuzz pedals on guitar (when I use them... other people get good sounds). For me it's amp overdrive all the way.
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I'm typically with you. The Pharaoh Supreme is the only one I've ever totally felled with on bass or guitar, and even then, I have it set more for fuzzy distortion than all out fuzz. I use SS heads for both, though, so amp overdrive isn't much of an option.
 
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rxdiablo said:
Huh, I thought one of abominable electronics varieties of the Hail Satan did, but when I look again it's just highs and mids...
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The tone stack on the HS Deluxe is very much like a bass adjustment. This fuzz is super bassy. The mids doesn't get as much articulation as I hoped it would. It is a very cool Muff based pedal, but I think I've decided that fuzz is just isn't for me. It disappears too much for me.
 
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socialleper said:
The tone stack on the HS Deluxe is very much like a bass adjustment. This fuzz is super bassy. The mids doesn't get as much articulation as I hoped it would. It is a very cool Muff based pedal, but I think I've decided that fuzz is just isn't for me. It disappears too much for me.
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The secret is a muff with mids. That's why the Swollen Pickle and my new custom Dunwich muff are my favorite fuzzes for bass.
 

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