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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

I feel solidly in the middle. Is DG stuff great? Sure. But so is plenty of other stuff. And DG has the quickest flip for me - the B7KU. No matter what I did, it added unwanted harshness to my signal. But I love the simplistic B3K. I feel that most pedals can be fairly versatile, you just have to spend the time to figure them out. And everyone has their own preferences about tone. If it works for you, do it! That’s what I say at least.

This is how I feel. I've only ever heard a few of their offerings in person and fiddled on one quickly once. Great product, just not me. I think I may be more vintage in tonality similar to @ProgressiveDoom.

I think you got a good point about versatility. I think the voicing/character is what you need to really love from a pedal/amp/bass, you'll find ways to make it versatile if you want that.
 
I took my new GK Cx210 at rehersal the other night to stack it with my MAG115 and finally get my Abm's full power. My Abm is the latest model with a speakon only socket and a jack one.... of course I forgot the speakon cable home so I could only use the jack output, so I tested the new cab alone.
At first the sound was totally harsh, so much I thought a speaker was going to drop out since it was grinding badly at less than half volume. Than I remembered I have a tweeter now and I switched it off... BLISS! Finally a musical tone... that 1x15 I used for 5 years must have formed the bass sound in my head..
I am pleased with the tone and clarity I have now, but I also changed strings one week ago so I must distinguish what influences most the change in sound.
My issue now is that with the Abm at 350@8ohms with the 400W GK cab I had to push the volume abundantly over half to cope with my guitarist's 60W full tube head at 3 (meaning 7 o' clock - 3 points after 0) which was the same with the old 250W Mag... We play in a rehersal-specialized place.
I hoped for more volume with the better cab but not too much changed, I guess I badly need the two cabs together. I noticed a bit too much speaker excursion too so I'm considering a high pass filter...
Otherwise the head gets a check up! It MUST have the POWER
 
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I took my new GK Cx210 at rehersal the other night to stack it with my MAG115 and finally get my Abm's full power. My Abm is the latest model with a speakon only socket and a jack one.... of course I forgot the speakon cable home so I could only use the jack output, so I tested the new cab alone.
At first the sound was totally harsh, so much I thought a speaker was going to drop out since it was grinding badly at less than half volume. Than I remembered I have a tweeter now and I switched it off... BLISS! Finally a musical tone... that 1x15 I used for 5 years must have formed the bass sound in my head..
I am pleased with the tone and clarity I have now, but I also changed strings one week ago so I must distinguish what influences most the change in sound.
My issue now is that with the Abm at 350@8ohms with the 400W GK cab I had to push the volume abundantly over half to cope with my guitarist's 60W full tube head at 3 (meaning 7 o' clock - 3 points after 0) which was the same with the old 250W Mag... We play in a rehersal-specialized place.
I hoped for more volume with the better cab but not too much changed, I guess I badly need the two cabs together. I noticed a bit too much speaker excursion too so I'm considering a high pass filter...
Otherwise the head gets a check up! It MUST have the POWER
It's only a 2x10 though. With the 1x15 going too it should be good.
Same. Except I use light strings and an overdriven amp most of the time.

Just for the price of DG pedals, I'd rather have something else.

Yeah I prefer lighter strings, more fun to play on IMO. Easier bends too.
I'd rather buy some unique dirt pedals and keep the foundation of my sound from my amp, especially the overdrive.
 
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Ive been a fan of Sabbath since I was a little kid and I thought I knew everything about them, especially Geezer Butler. Today my mind has been blown, when you think of Geezer you think of Fender/Lakland P bass right?. Right!.........WRONG!. Check this out!. @Sartori Im thinking of you all of a sudden. Anyone know this?, must have tried it on tour as I dont remember hearing it on the Never Say Die album.



You guys know about John Birch? He made stuff for Iommi, I wonder if Geezer ever played one of these:

Vintage 1970's John Birch Bass In Rare Arctic White

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I'll have to check it out, sounds like a good read
The Malazan Book of the Fallen and Novels of the Malazan Empire are two parallel book series set in the same fictional universe, written by Steven Erikson and Ian Esslemont, respectively. Both series have now concluded, but they're still writing stories in that setting.

They're both anthropologists/archaeologists, which informs their work heavily. They're also huge nerds and initially created the world as a setting for their D&D and later GURPS pen and paper RPGs.
 
The Malazan Book of the Fallen and Novels of the Malazan Empire are two parallel book series set in the same fictional universe, written by Steven Erikson and Ian Esslemont, respectively. Both series have now concluded, but they're still writing stories in that setting.

They're both anthropologists/archaeologists, which informs their work heavily. They're also huge nerds and initially created the world as a setting for their D&D and later GURPS pen and paper RPGs.
Sounds like something my buddies and I would do. Never played GURPS, but DnD is good stuff.
 
I'll have to check it out, sounds like a good read
The main series that starts with I think Gardens of the Moon? (going by memory been years) is fantastic. It's really well written and very well imagined they do a really good job on the details of building a world and a backstory. It feels epic in the way that reading Greek myths are epic. The only critique I have of the series is that its a bit high concept writing in parts and not everybody is a fan of that. That and the sheer number of characters makes Game of Thrones look easy to follow. It's a better series then Game of Thrones IMHO, different, but better.

Just throwing it out there but you may also like Adrian Tchaikovsky's Shadows of the Apt series as well.
 
The main series that starts with I think Gardens of the Moon? (going by memory been years) is fantastic. It's really well written and very well imagined they do a really good job on the details of building a world and a backstory. It feels epic in the way that reading Greek myths are epic. The only critique I have of the series is that its a bit high concept writing in parts and not everybody is a fan of that. That and the sheer number of characters makes Game of Thrones look easy to follow. It's a better series then Game of Thrones IMHO, different, but better.

Just throwing it out there but you may also like Adrian Tchaikovsky's Shadows of the Apt series as well.
Definitely. The world feels really "big," like a world as large and diverse and crazy as our own. Erikson especially does get a bit experimental with writing style at time, while Esslemont is always more straight forward. Also really rewards rereads.

And yeah, the main series starts with Gardens Of The Moon.

The other thing I'd warn about is that it very much starts mid-action. There's no opening exposition to tell you how the world works or anything like that. It's purposefully very confusing at first because it's supposed to be very confusing and chaotic for the characters.
 
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So, my family insists on this whole X-Mas list thing, but refuses to actually buy anything I’d like (music stuff is out of their price range and comfort zone, so I need exact links for this stuff). So I’m trying to think of cheap bass/guitar/music gifts for stocking stuffers. Ideas for anything?

So far, I’m thinking DeOxit, but don’t know which is which. I’ve been using off brand stuff for both pots and inputs/outputs, but thought this might be a chance to get the “good stuff”. Which 2 products would clean the pots and ins/outs, and which one cleans which?

Any cool multi-tools or anything?

Thanks as always!
 
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