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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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thombo said:
Same as above with the addition that it is always different when you are in different situations. Obviously changes in volume, room size, stage setup, hollow vs solid stages, sound systems, etc can change the way your bass and amp interact pretty dramatically, and it's especially noticeable with intentional feedback.
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oZZma said:
Yeah, I'd love to learn how to master it! Thanks everyone, very useful tips here :)
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So much what thombo says here. Ive found on longer stages or long rooms it can become much more difficult to get feedback to happen for me. Ive been in some venues where ive had to put my headstock on my cabinet or amp to get it going.
 
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thombo said:
Another option is you can try an eBow or a EHX Freeze or Superego. They aren't exactly the same as feedback but it is really consistent.
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I have a Cat King with momentary self oscillation but I'm not too fond of it. (The distortion is great, the pseudo-feedback works VERY bad)
I'd prefer to use pure amp feedback... It's not super easy but sounds different
 
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thombo said:
Another option is you can try an eBow or a EHX Freeze or Superego. They aren't exactly the same as feedback but it is really consistent.
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I've had a guitar ebow a long time. String spacing on a bass makes their use VERY difficult and not a satisfying. Seems to take much longer to resonate the string on a bass than a guitar.

Wish I could get a hold of one of those Fernandes Sustainers for bass.

Peter Steele used one with Type O, but he seems to be the only one.
 
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mbelue said:
I've had a guitar ebow a long time. String spacing on a bass makes their use VERY difficult and not a satisfying. Seems to take much longer to resonate the string on a bass than a guitar.

Wish I could get a hold of one of those Fernandes Sustainers for bass.

Peter Steele used one with Type O, but he seems to be the only one.
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Mike Manring uses one as well. His playing style compliments the ebow a little bit more than the typical doom\stoner band.
 
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oZZma said:
Hey guys, any noise/drone/doom player here uses amp feedback on purpose in their songs? How do you control it? I asked in a specific thread but I got no answers :/
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My tricks:

1) THE BEAST:


2) EHX SuperEgo (doesn't really sound like feedback, but can serve the same purpose)

3) Touch bass to cab: headstock for a more subtle swell, body for an instant explosion

4) Crank the feedback on delay pedal (hardest to control so I rarely go for this one)

I want to get the Digitech Freqout, but can't really justify the purchase given the options I already have.
 
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callofcthulhu said:
My tricks:

4) Crank the feedback on delay pedal (hardest to control so I rarely go for this one)
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I'm super weary of this one now. Had feedback cranked on a delay and got a little high-pitched swell with some harmonics. It went crazy within a second or two. My left ear took a beating, and still has some issues when exposed to super loud music without plugs. Just fair warning to keep this super low volume if people are testing that method...
 
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callofcthulhu said:
My tricks:

1) THE BEAST:


2) EHX SuperEgo (doesn't really sound like feedback, but can serve the same purpose)

3) Touch bass to cab: headstock for a more subtle swell, body for an instant explosion

4) Crank the feedback on delay pedal (hardest to control so I rarely go for this one)

I want to get the Digitech Freqout, but can't really justify the purchase given the options I already have.
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I don't like the sound off the FreqOut (seems like some cheesy effect from 70's sci-fi movie, which I may like but not for this purpose :D), I already took it into consideration but I chose the Cat King instead (which does not work, duh*)
But the Beast is veeery interesting!
Thanks for the tips!

*I must say the pedal sounds great but was a big let down on all the other aspects:
Distortion 1 and 2 don't have separate volume knobs, so if you want distortion 2 to be much higher than distortion 1 (which is the only LOCIGAL reason to have two distortion instead of one) you'll have a HUGE volume jump, which means it's almost unusable in the same song.
Moreover, the feedback only works if the pedal is at the beginning of the chain. I mean BEFORE THE TUNER. And it's glitchy, not in a cool way. IT only works smoothly if the pedal is not in the chain at all. And yes, I use isolated power supply. If I had paid the full price for that pedal I would be VERY upset.
 
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Grahams Groove said:
I'm super weary of this one now. Had feedback cranked on a delay and got a little high-pitched swell with some harmonics. It went crazy within a second or two. My left ear took a beating, and still has some issues when exposed to super loud music without plugs. Just fair warning to keep this super low volume if people are testing that method...
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Ah man thats bad news. I use delay feedback pretty frequently. I usually have one of my delays hooked to an expression pedal so i can send it into oscillation then control the time with my foot and make crazy space noises.
 
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Hola, amigos. I know it's been a long time since I rapped at ya, but things have been pretty busy.

My band's got a new rehearsal spot, it's more money than our usual hourly-drive-thru-on-demand facility but it's way cooler. It's in an old shipping container down by Santa Cruz harbor that's been mostly finished off inside, with a control room for recording, etc. Played the Bassman 100 through an SVT 8x10 they had there, and it sounded pretty good. I still prefer a 2x15 I think. The old-man-TBer bass wasn't really appro-pro (Tele bass with flats) so that might stay at home or get sold. I'll get some pics next week.
 
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cornfarmer said:
Hola, amigos. I know it's been a long time since I rapped at ya, but things have been pretty busy.

My band's got a new rehearsal spot, it's more money than our usual hourly-drive-thru-on-demand facility but it's way cooler. It's in an old shipping container down by Santa Cruz harbor that's been mostly finished off inside, with a control room for recording, etc. Played the Bassman 100 through an SVT 8x10 they had there, and it sounded pretty good. I still prefer a 2x15 I think. The old-man-TBer bass wasn't really appro-pro (Tele bass with flats) so that might stay at home or get sold. I'll get some pics next week.
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How'd the bassman do volume wise?
 
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I best stay here today. The trending topics at large are 'don't tell wife about the new bass' and 'music today ain't like it used to be' threads. Ugh.

I always picture these guys like this faceless guy from Ren & Stimpy:
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Anywho, I've finally ordered my model j pups for the jazz. And decided to also pick up a model p and new electronics for the warlock. I'm not too attached to red, and was thinking about stripping it and refinishing it in some kind of stain then tru oiling the crap out of it. I *think* the bass is probably basswood or agathis. So dark stain, or maybe india ink. What do you guys/gals think?
 
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br1qbat said:
I best stay here today. The trending topics at large are 'don't tell wife about the new bass' and 'music today ain't like it used to be' threads. Ugh.
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No Homer Simpson playing bass post, no care. HAI GUISE SO FUNNY LOLOL


br1qbat said:
Anywho, I've finally ordered my model j pups for the jazz. And decided to also pick up a model p and new electronics for the warlock. I'm not too attached to red, and was thinking about stripping it and refinishing it in some kind of stain then tru oiling the crap out of it. I *think* the bass is probably basswood or agathis. So dark stain, or maybe india ink. What do you guys/gals think?
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Dark or greyish stain. OR - do a 180 and bedazzle the livin' sheeeeit out of it :cigar:
 
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