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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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Put it through the paces. Not bad for $50. Not that special either. The onboard distortion is nigh useless, it generally lacks definition and farts out at higher volume, but it has some intense reverb. I could use it in a pinch for the highs side of my rig. A/B with the tube head it is no contest. Looks pretty rad tucked under it though.
 
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Hehe, I bought a similar head recently as a backup for my Super Bassman. It's a Musician, and it came with a non-master volume previous gen Bass head with the black plexi front (nope, didn't have a choice, had to buy the pair :) ). I had an aluminum faceplate era Bass head before, so I knew what I was getting into. My lead guitarist laughed to himself when he saw me bring it in to practice, because his dad had used one as a guitar head in the 70's. But when he heard how good of a bass tone it got, he had to compliment it. He actually likes it better than the SB, but I think that's mostly because I keep the gain down a bit on the Peavey, and just run the SB's preamp wide open.

Those amps are generally pretty loud for their watts rating, because they are rated at a lower THD than most of their contemporaries. Mine's rated at 210, and it easily beats anything I've heard rated at the same watts level. It's got good reverb and tremolo. I've used them both on demos and been happy with them. Mine's got fuzz as well as distortion, and a mix knob between them. They're both interesting in a sound-effect kind of way. But yeah, they'd be hard to use in a band context, even on guitar.

I'm not sure if yours actually has the series/parallel inputs, does it? (Edit: you should be able to do parallel with a patch cable, if nothing else) IMHO, that's where those generation Peaveys really shine. They had pretty nice sounding solid state pre and power amps, and being able to cascade the gain from one into the other can get you some nice overdrive sounds when you're a bit conservative with driving them, especially on bass.

Either way, I paid about 3x what you paid, and I like the non-master volume versions of those heads, too (hence, why I was cool with both over paying and having to take both heads :) ). Nice find. If you're willing to lug an unruly number of cabs around (you're already lugging twice what I'll carry), it could add a nice soft fullness to the bottom of that setup, I think.
 
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Hehe, I bought a similar head recently as a backup for my Super Bassman. It's a Musician, and it came with a non-master volume previous gen Bass head with the black plexi front (nope, didn't have a choice, had to buy the pair :) ). I had an aluminum faceplate era Bass head before, so I knew what I was getting into. My lead guitarist laughed to himself when he saw me bring it in to practice, because his dad had used one as a guitar head in the 70's. But when he heard how good of a bass tone it got, he had to compliment it. He actually likes it better than the SB, but I think that's mostly because I keep the gain down a bit on the Peavey, and just run the SB's preamp wide open.

Those amps are generally pretty loud for their watts rating, because they are rated at a lower THD than most of their contemporaries. Mine's rated at 210, and it easily beats anything I've heard rated at the same watts level. It's got good reverb and tremolo. I've used them both on demos and been happy with them. Mine's got fuzz as well as distortion, and a mix knob between them. They're both interesting in a sound-effect kind of way. But yeah, they'd be hard to use in a band context, even on guitar.

I'm not sure if yours actually has the series/parallel inputs, does it? (Edit: you should be able to do parallel with a patch cable, if nothing else) IMHO, that's where those generation Peaveys really shine. They had pretty nice sounding solid state pre and power amps, and being able to cascade the gain from one into the other can get you some nice overdrive sounds when you're a bit conservative with driving them, especially on bass.

Either way, I paid about 3x what you paid, and I like the non-master volume versions of those heads, too (hence, why I was cool with both over paying and having to take both heads :) ). Nice find. If you're willing to lug an unruly number of cabs around (you're already lugging twice what I'll carry), it could add a nice soft fullness to the bottom of that setup, I think.

Yeah, I didn't have a patch cable long enough to jumper the channels. Want to try that though. I found input 2 on the 'clean side' put out a pretty punchy tone, a bit fizzier than the superbass clone. I didn't like it with pedals as much as the superbass either. But I'm pretty happy for $50. I'm gonna use it for band practice thursday and see what the guys think of it.
 
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Yeah, I didn't have a patch cable long enough to jumper the channels. Want to try that though. I found input 2 on the 'clean side' put out a pretty punchy tone, a bit fizzier than the superbass clone. I didn't like it with pedals as much as the superbass either. But I'm pretty happy for $50. I'm gonna use it for band practice thursday and see what the guys think of it.

Hell of a deal! If you decide to flip it let me know. I've never had a chance to try any of those style peavey's, just the mark series.
 
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And this talk of the ol' Peavey is serendipitous, because I used it in this pedal review. It's for the TK-421 EQ pedal, which was advertised as the difference between a Blower Box and a Landphil. It's discontinued now, but you can grab them used like I did, or work a parametric or graphic EQ to run the same points. I honestly love the thing, it's EQ points are perfect for making any distortion/fuzz sound bass friendly.

For the portion where I'm actually demoing the EQ pedal, the Peavey is set totally clean. But on the intro I drove it a little, and on the outro I'm actually using both the tremolo and the fuzz! That fuzz actually works pretty well when layered over another bass-friendly fuzz, it turns out. I recorded the outro after I made my last post in this thread, and thought "Hmm, I wonder" while doing the bass part and tried it. I was surprised at how well it worked. Either way, it's all fuzz bass, so it's more likely to be appropriate for the thread than the earlier vid.

 
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Yeah, I didn't have a patch cable long enough to jumper the channels. Want to try that though. I found input 2 on the 'clean side' put out a pretty punchy tone, a bit fizzier than the superbass clone. I didn't like it with pedals as much as the superbass either. But I'm pretty happy for $50. I'm gonna use it for band practice thursday and see what the guys think of it.
@scabpicker Jumpered it last night. Sounds killer, thanks for the tip!
 
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I'm dragging my wife out to see castle and grayceon this coming saturday. This should be a nice change of pace from the weirdass world of tech death i've been living in for the past few months. Gotta say i'm looking forward to it!

That is a badass combo. Castle kicks ass live, and while I like Grayceon I unfortunately haven't had the chance to see them live yet.
 
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Thoughts and suggestions are welcome. I have very little experience using pedalboards. I’m using this board for Doom.
HPF>Lehle>>(clean to amp)|Effects loop> Micro pog> 69 full tone fuzz clone>ls1>>tentacle|pork loin>Qtron>ada flanger>Delay.
You’ve got the Pork Loin, so I’d say you’re covered for doom essentials. That thing rules.
 
Agree 1000%. How nasty does the 69 fuzz get?
What amps/cabs?
Pretty darn nasty. But you can see I do have the fuzz and contour knobs dimed. If I dime the bias knob the fuzz gets kind of out of control.

I’m playing with the clean going to a fender studio bass head (200 W tube) and the dirty going to an Ampeg V4. For cabs I have two ampeg 4x10 svt he. I would’ve gotten an 8 x 10 but I couldn’t get it up and down my basement stairs by myself.
 
Pretty darn nasty. But you can see I do have the fuzz and contour knobs dimed. If I dime the bias knob the fuzz gets kind of out of control.

I’m playing with the clean going to a fender studio bass head (200 W tube) and the dirty going to an Ampeg V4. For cabs I have two ampeg 4x10 svt he. I would’ve gotten an 8 x 10 but I couldn’t get it up and down my basement stairs by myself.

Oof. Nice setup. So jelly, bruh.
 
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Hehe, I bought a similar head recently as a backup for my Super Bassman. It's a Musician, and it came with a non-master volume previous gen Bass head with the black plexi front (nope, didn't have a choice, had to buy the pair :) ). I had an aluminum faceplate era Bass head before, so I knew what I was getting into. My lead guitarist laughed to himself when he saw me bring it in to practice, because his dad had used one as a guitar head in the 70's. But when he heard how good of a bass tone it got, he had to compliment it. He actually likes it better than the SB, but I think that's mostly because I keep the gain down a bit on the Peavey, and just run the SB's preamp wide open.

Those amps are generally pretty loud for their watts rating, because they are rated at a lower THD than most of their contemporaries. Mine's rated at 210, and it easily beats anything I've heard rated at the same watts level. It's got good reverb and tremolo. I've used them both on demos and been happy with them. Mine's got fuzz as well as distortion, and a mix knob between them. They're both interesting in a sound-effect kind of way. But yeah, they'd be hard to use in a band context, even on guitar.

I'm not sure if yours actually has the series/parallel inputs, does it? (Edit: you should be able to do parallel with a patch cable, if nothing else) IMHO, that's where those generation Peaveys really shine. They had pretty nice sounding solid state pre and power amps, and being able to cascade the gain from one into the other can get you some nice overdrive sounds when you're a bit conservative with driving them, especially on bass.

Either way, I paid about 3x what you paid, and I like the non-master volume versions of those heads, too (hence, why I was cool with both over paying and having to take both heads :) ). Nice find. If you're willing to lug an unruly number of cabs around (you're already lugging twice what I'll carry), it could add a nice soft fullness to the bottom of that setup, I think.
My first big head was a Peavey 400 series. I don't remember it fondly, but the cab it was going to was a complete piece of trash, so I don't really know what its tone potential was. Plus, in my teens and 20s I knew absolutely nothing about sound. I didn't know any other bass players and never had a teacher or mentor. It took me 25 years of playing to actually figure out what it takes to not sound like @$$ on stage.
 
Pretty darn nasty. But you can see I do have the fuzz and contour knobs dimed. If I dime the bias knob the fuzz gets kind of out of control.

I’m playing with the clean going to a fender studio bass head (200 W tube) and the dirty going to an Ampeg V4. For cabs I have two ampeg 4x10 svt he. I would’ve gotten an 8 x 10 but I couldn’t get it up and down my basement stairs by myself.
Sounds like you have an A+ rig
 
My first big head was a Peavey 400 series. I don't remember it fondly, but the cab it was going to was a complete piece of trash, so I don't really know what its tone potential was. Plus, in my teens and 20s I knew absolutely nothing about sound. I didn't know any other bass players and never had a teacher or mentor. It took me 25 years of playing to actually figure out what it takes to not sound like @$$ on stage.


Yeah, it took me a long time to figure out how to not sound terrible, too. The hardest part was learning that what sounds good by itself may not sound good when you put it with everything else. Oddly, my old 400 series bass amp was probably where I started to learn that. It was the first bass amp I had where I was loud enough that I didn't need to have the gain and volume dimed just to be heard - I had actual options.
 
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Yeah, it took me a long time to figure out how to not sound terrible, too. The hardest part was learning that what sounds good by itself may not sound good when you put it with everything else. Oddly, my old 400 series bass amp was probably where I started to learn that. It was the first bass amp I had where I was loud enough that I didn't need to have the gain and volume dimed just to be heard - I had actual options.
Learning the difference between in the mix tone, bedroom tone, and recording tone is something all bass players have to go through. Guitar sounds the same almost all the time, so it is something guitar players don't have to think about.
Drummers may be able to sympathize. Recorded drums sound nothing like live drums.