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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Hehejejejehehehehe, there's something meta about wearing a bootleg Lars Ulrich shirt.

100%, he intentionally ordered one before the cease and desist went out. Aside from the Saint Anger snare sound, two dudes in Suicide Cages (including the drummer who wore the shirt) are team @El_Charro, going all in on all thing Metallica.

I was 10 when the black album came out, so it was my entry point to Metallica and I can not say a bad thing about it. I have since spent my time going backwards with their discography. For no real reason, I never really checked anything out after Live Sh!t: Binge and Purge, so I'm not in a position to have an opinion.
 
I got into Metallica very late. And when I say "got into" I mean that it would be irresponsible for me not to own Ride The Lightning on cassette given my car is from 1986. I'm not really interested in anything else of theirs, but I'm also not opposed to it. I grew up at a time when their sound had changed drastically from their early stuff, and when Napster came along and they turned into whiny rich turds, which didn't exactly ingratiate me to them.
 
I enjoy Metallica. Obviously, I've been learning their early stuff lately. But when it comes to the 90's and beyond, there are plenty of other metal bands I prefer. Metallica's influence can't be understated - that's for sure. But I think @El_Charro nailed it - the 90's Metallica albums weren't necessarily bad, but very different. That's definitely how I feel about them. Early on, "Fuel" was my favorite song. It was my entry point to them, as my brother loved it. But that's a very different song than their early albums. And I went backwards from there, picking up their early albums and going from those to other bands - not evolving into their more commercially oriented material. And I can't begrudge them their success.

I haven't listened to them since St. Anger. At this point, I'm actively NOT listening to anything past that so I can believe that they returned to their roots (which I hear that they have to an extent). But blissful ignorance is my choice, because again, their legacy can't be understated. I saw them in 2004 - and as crazy as it sounds, it's likely my least favorite concert as of now. Not through any fault of theirs, but because my tastes have changed so much. I have no desire to see them again, unlike the other bands I've seen. But there can be no doubt that they have immutably changed the metal landscape.
 
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There is no rig too huge

Agreed

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But really, container ships slaps! KWC is such an unrelentingly brutal band, could have been on my list. Their newest is a close second to Container Ships. They're an honorable mention for sure, along with Jesu, Wear Your Wounds, Botch, Young Widows...

As for Torche, I love their early stuff! The new stuff is great, but they aren't a celebrate their entire catalog band for me.
KWC is dope. Relatively clean and articulate (and angry) sounding guitars with a distorted bass gives the band a menacing tone. Sounds like big clean British style amps pushed to the limit with some sort of a booster to my ears. Can you guys recommend other sludgy bands that do this? Sumac and Young Widows come quite close in terms of tone and feel.

Oh yea, and Oranssi Pazuzu has a similar thing going on and is very much worth checking out if you guys haven't heard of it.

 
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KWC is dope. Relatively clean and articulate (and angry) sounding guitars with a distorted bass gives the band a menacing tone. Sounds like big clean British style amps pushed to the limit with some sort of a booster to my ears. Can you guys recommend other sludgy bands that do this? Sumac and Young Widows come quite close in terms of tone and feel.

Oh yea, and Oranssi Pazuzu has a similar thing going on and is very much worth checking out if you guys haven't heard of it.



I remember the dude from kwc using a buzzard bass and an svtII non pro, but now using a rusty box.

I dug this article a bunch
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I remember the dude from kwc using a buzzard bass and an svtII non pro, but now using a rusty box.

I dug this article a bunch
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Yeah - he's the regular cohost on the 'Rigs of Dad' podcast, which I recommend if you like super nerdy music/movie talk. They've had some great guests on and always keep it pretty light/entertaining. Anyway, he mentioned in some podcast how he's always just bought cheap basses and fixed them up for his stuff. On the amps, he said the Rusty Box > GK or SVTii heads is pretty much his go to for heavy stuff.
 
@cusar5, sic rig!

@C_nut, some of these are more on the shoegaze side of things, but Cloakroom, Nothing (incredible live, the albums are fine), My Bloody Valentine, Pelican, Omega Massif, Shallow North Dakota (for whom KWC did a split benefit album w/ Ken Mode), Ken Mode. For me, I think they also have some crossover w/ Big Black and bands of that ilk: Full-range, not a lot of effects, with and harsh, relentless but kind of hi-fi sound.

RE KWC/Ian Miller, he's been playing the God City Reconstructivist recently, he's got some stuff on his socials about it. I'm also a big fan of Rigs of Dad.
 
I enjoy Metallica. Obviously, I've been learning their early stuff lately. But when it comes to the 90's and beyond, there are plenty of other metal bands I prefer. Metallica's influence can't be understated - that's for sure. But I think @El_Charro nailed it - the 90's Metallica albums weren't necessarily bad, but very different. That's definitely how I feel about them. Early on, "Fuel" was my favorite song. It was my entry point to them, as my brother loved it. But that's a very different song than their early albums. And I went backwards from there, picking up their early albums and going from those to other bands - not evolving into their more commercially oriented material. And I can't begrudge them their success.

I haven't listened to them since St. Anger. At this point, I'm actively NOT listening to anything past that so I can believe that they returned to their roots (which I hear that they have to an extent). But blissful ignorance is my choice, because again, their legacy can't be understated. I saw them in 2004 - and as crazy as it sounds, it's likely my least favorite concert as of now. Not through any fault of theirs, but because my tastes have changed so much. I have no desire to see them again, unlike the other bands I've seen. But there can be no doubt that they have immutably changed the metal landscape.
A shame because Death Magnetic and especially Hardwired are excellent. Hardwired legit is one of my faves of theirs. Though the bass drum tone is poop, but Lars gotta Lars. Lol
 
A shame because Death Magnetic and especially Hardwired are excellent. Hardwired legit is one of my faves of theirs. Though the bass drum tone is poop, but Lars gotta Lars. Lol
I've heard the stuff that is occasionally played on the radio a few times. While I know the deep cuts are often better than the radio friendly stuff, I can't say I was really digging it. I'll stick to my other mid-80's thrash bands who kept the style. (Not that stylistic changes are bad, but I prefer their stuff!)
 
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@cusar5, sic rig!

@C_nut, some of these are more on the shoegaze side of things, but Cloakroom, Nothing (incredible live, the albums are fine), My Bloody Valentine, Pelican, Omega Massif, Shallow North Dakota (for whom KWC did a split benefit album w/ Ken Mode), Ken Mode. For me, I think they also have some crossover w/ Big Black and bands of that ilk: Full-range, not a lot of effects, with and harsh, relentless but kind of hi-fi sound.

RE KWC/Ian Miller, he's been playing the God City Reconstructivist recently, he's got some stuff on his socials about it. I'm also a big fan of Rigs of Dad.
I was lucky enough to see Nothing live at SXSW back in 2019 I think. They ended the show by just letting their instruments feedback on their rigs, it was pretty sweet. Cool venue too, though I can't remember exactly what it was named...
 
It's quiet here. So I'll bore you guys with my search of a new bass.

I've put my Gretsch up for sale, and was looking at getting the Jet II, but with the humbucker debacle that LowEndLobster uncovered I'm also looking at different basses.

Maybe I finally cave in and get a Danelectro. Or retry the Höfner.
 
I am currently amp shopping, but it's tough since none of my local shops have any of the amps I am interested in. Probably going to pull the trigger on the Bass Terror with 2 OBC112s, but *some* reviews indicate that the built in character of the amp might not play well with fuzz and dirt pedals.

Back to YouTube I suppose.
 
I am currently amp shopping, but it's tough since none of my local shops have any of the amps I am interested in. Probably going to pull the trigger on the Bass Terror with 2 OBC112s, but *some* reviews indicate that the built in character of the amp might not play well with fuzz and dirt pedals.

Back to YouTube I suppose.
Amp shopping as a bassist is rough. So little chance to try before you buy. Hell, you’re lucky if you can find one gig-able amp in a brick and mortar shop.
 
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