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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

Hmm, I don't think I've posted this here. I kind of thought I did, but my searches bring up nothing, and I kind of played it close to my chest when I got it "finished". It really is just all me. I was fooling around with a drum machine from my desktop (Hydrogen, I'm a terrible drummer), a guitar and a bass, a Yamaha reface CP (really convincing fake electric piano), and the Werkstatt-01 being fed with just four pulses from a sequencer (I'm also lazy). I thought of it as metal when I was coming up with it, but from the reaction I've got from the few people I've shared it with, it's really probably psychedelic/jazz/ambient preformed by a hesher. I may come up with a compelling reason to give it vocals someday, but it's kind of felt "finished" for the last couple of months. If you like it or hate it, something in between or more extreme, let me know.


Definitely psychedelic. I could use a bit of variation with the drum pattern but otherwise I dig it. Hesherdelic needs to be a genre. I am counting on you to lead the way.
 
Definitely psychedelic. I could use a bit of variation with the drum pattern but otherwise I dig it.

Hehehe, the thing that was my impetus for posting it was me sending a different link (for a different idea for a space rock song) from the same account to my brother. He listened beyond the track I had sent him and heard the above one for the first time, then asked me if I had sent it before and said "Hank on that would sound awesome." Hank, being an excellent drummer (my current drummer, and the only drummer I've worked with for at least a decade) would turn any drum machine pattern I could program into a masterpiece - if he could stand to listen to a drum machine I'd programmed long enough to do so. :D The man is a purist, and I love him, and the fact he exists proves you right on the idea of variations in the drum pattern. I should get smarter, convince Hank by crying at his feet, or rope another natural drummer (like my wife, but I'm probably not that mean) to record real drums or at least add some spice to the pattern. If I decide to add vocals to it, I surely will.

But anyway, if I hadn't made my brother listen to it, I realized I probably hadn't foisted it on you Yankee brats (all apologies to the Meatmen).

Hesherdelic needs to be a genre. I am counting on you to lead the way.

Good lord, I was walking around with the idea in my head, but had no idea of the word to put to it. My bandmates may eventually curse you, but now I can encapsulate what I want to do with my life in a single word. Maybe add Jazz into it in some way and I'm all set. Ehh, maybe the -delic makes it close enough. Oooh, Hesherjazzidelic kind of rolls off the tongue in a nice way...
 
Tried to buy a new fuzz pedal today. Got this. Sums up my life.
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Hmm, I don't think I've posted this here. I kind of thought I did, but my searches bring up nothing, and I kind of played it close to my chest when I got it "finished". It really is just all me. I was fooling around with a drum machine from my desktop (Hydrogen, I'm a terrible drummer), a guitar and a bass, a Yamaha reface CP (really convincing fake electric piano), and the Werkstatt-01 being fed with just four pulses from a sequencer (I'm also lazy). I thought of it as metal when I was coming up with it, but from the reaction I've got from the few people I've shared it with, it's really probably psychedelic/jazz/ambient preformed by a hesher. I may come up with a compelling reason to give it vocals someday, but it's kind of felt "finished" for the last couple of months. If you like it or hate it, something in between or more extreme, let me know.


I like it. I don't have a good reference for it, but it sounds good for chilling ambient music to me. I get a similar feel from it as I do from some of Burzum's ambient-ish synth stuff. (Again, no good reference, because stylistically, these are incredibly different. But I get similar feelings from them.) I also like the repetitive drum riff. Lets me drift off into nowhere, and not really have any idea how much time has passed.
 
I like it. I don't have a good reference for it, but it sounds good for chilling ambient music to me. I get a similar feel from it as I do from some of Burzum's ambient-ish synth stuff. (Again, no good reference, because stylistically, these are incredibly different. But I get similar feelings from them.)

Well, I kind of understand the comparison, acknowledging the stylistic differences. When I let my my wife listen to the stuff I do in this vein (I have a lot of incomplete stuff), she's asked "have you thought about doing soundtracks to movies?" I get the same kind of feel of "soundtracks" when I listen to Burzum's ambient stuff. But their ambient stuff has a lot more Vangelis in it than what I'm thinking of. However, I never thought I'd cite Vangelis as an influence, but I'd be stupid to deny it.

I dunno, maybe my conceptual idea is if Sun-Ra and Air decided to form a metal band*? Ok, probably setting myself up for failure with aspiration, but that's how I'm feeling. I'm planning my next assault on the idea every waking moment I'm not doing something computationally expensive in real life, now that it's out there.

I also like the repetitive drum riff. Lets me drift off into nowhere, and not really have any idea how much time has passed.

Hehehe, thanks. I kind of do like the repetitive drum riff, myself. But I'm probably the only drummer that can be proud of playing the same beat for 7 or so minutes without varying. A drum machine makes that very basic skill obsolete. I've programmed tracks with intentional mistake bars I can throw in to the cycle before, but I've never really been happy with them. My goal on the next track where only one core pattern is appropriate is to become proficient enough to vary the drum riff a bit in the same pattern without distracting the listener. I plan to try to pester Hank for ideas on this, because he is a genius, and if he doesn't love me he has an odd way of showing it. If nothing else, I'll just record him while he plays the patterns he thinks I should be using. Wish me luck. :)


*Ok, if I were a better bass player and guitarist, it'd be Charles Mingus deciding that Ronald Jones era Flaming Lips needed to be a metal band, and he made them do that. They'd drive each other further into madness, but it'd be worth it.
 
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But their ambient stuff has a lot more Vangelis in it than what I'm thinking of. However, I never thought I'd cite Vangelis as an influence, but I'd be stupid to deny it.

Can't say I've ever heard of Vangelis. Worth checking out given what I have said previously about Burzum? I wouldn't mind supporting someone who is less controversial (or at least controversial in more acceptable ways) than Varg.
 
Can't say I've ever heard of Vangelis. Worth checking out given what I have said previously about Burzum? I wouldn't mind supporting someone who is less controversial (or at least controversial in more acceptable ways) than Varg.

Well, Vangelis was at one time the bane of my existence. He won an Oscar for the Chariots of Fire theme. Around that time, I was in orchestra class, and several teachers in a row had us play its theme. It's not a gigantic amount of fun to play, but a bunch of elementary/jr. high age kids could get through it without it sounding like several bags of cats. I really got tired of that theme.

But later, Blade Runner came out. Through all the craziness of that movie, I didn't really play close attention to the soundtrack. But a friend of mine owned a record store around 1989, and he got a used copy in, and made me listen to it (and now that I read the wiki entry for the soundtrack, it must have been a bootleg of some sort. That kind of explains why he was proud of it.). It really did give me a greater appreciation of him. (heh, and @lucas303 has pretty much answered this for me :D )

If you've got some time where you need sound that you don't necessarily have to pay close attention to (it is a soundtrack, after all), the Blade Runner soundtrack is pretty good. (not the same version I heard ages ago, but close enough).



But Burzum isn't exactly the same thing at all, but I get the same feeling as I get from some of Vangelis' work. Similar kind of mood and synthesizer work, I feel. Vangelis died last week, so that may be why he's in the front of my mind, but he's what I think of when I hear stuff like Burzum's ambient stuff.
 
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