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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

You prolly wear shorts to gigs and care about the “hang” too.
Gigs? What are... gigs? And yes, I probably would wear shorts. My typical style trends more towards thrash, where I feel shorts would not be a problem. Also, I don't care. It's metal. Most people wouldn't care either way if the music is good. The hang is a must. If I don't like the group, I won't want to play with them. Again - metal. I'm not planning on making TONS of money here... Not that I'd object to it!
 
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Gigs? What are... gigs? And yes, I probably would wear shorts. My typical style trends more towards thrash, where I feel shorts would not be a problem. Also, I don't care. It's metal. Most people wouldn't care either way if the music is good. The hang is a must. If I don't like the group, I won't want to play with them. Again - metal. I'm not planning on making TONS of money here... Not that I'd object to it!
Exactly. A seemingly large swath of tea beast-ers take pride in their “professionalism” which apparently equates to playing music you may not like with folks you have no interest in while being uncomfortable for what breaks down to less than minimum wage if you count prep and travel time. Bonus points if you’ve got a hardon for being early.
 
Exactly. A seemingly large swath of tea beast-ers take pride in their “professionalism” which apparently equates to playing music you may not like with folks you have no interest in while being uncomfortable for what breaks down to less than minimum wage if you count prep and travel time. Bonus points if you’ve got a hardon for being early.
Playing a fodera in yer fedora.
 
Exactly. A seemingly large swath of tea beast-ers take pride in their “professionalism” which apparently equates to playing music you may not like with folks you have no interest in while being uncomfortable for what breaks down to less than minimum wage if you count prep and travel time. Bonus points if you’ve got a hardon for being early.
I'm not opposed to "dressing up", per se. But it's got to be worth it. Years ago, I remember Akercocke (an extreme progressive death/black metal band) used to wear suits. They felt it was their profession, and wanted to present a serious image for their rather serious lyrics. If it's agreed upon, and part of the image, go for it. But I don't think I'd ever go that far. I can barely stand wearing a suit, let alone wearing one while playing. Not sure if Akercocke still does that or not.
 
I'm not opposed to "dressing up", per se. But it's got to be worth it. Years ago, I remember Akercocke (an extreme progressive death/black metal band) used to wear suits. They felt it was their profession, and wanted to present a serious image for their rather serious lyrics. If it's agreed upon, and part of the image, go for it. But I don't think I'd ever go that far. I can barely stand wearing a suit, let alone wearing one while playing. Not sure if Akercocke still does that or not.

Heck, I kind of want to be in a band that wears costumes, just to see how bad it really is. I haven't come up with a good theme, though.
 
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Heck, I kind of want to be in a band that wears costumes, just to see how bad it really is. I haven't come up with a good theme, though.
I'd be all about the COSTUME aspect. But if I go that route, it's gotta be weird. None of the serious-ish type stuff like Slipknot or anything. Just off the wall caricatures and whatnot. I once saw Troglodyte, a local KC bigfoot-themed death metal band open for Iced Earth. They had a Bigfoot guy up on stage. The music was standard death metal, competent, but nothing too memorable. But the Bigfoot and theme was AWESOME. That's the weirdness I'm talking about, but not even necessarily coherent. Like every member of the band doing something completely different and weird. Something akin to an incoherent Gwar, maybe?
 
Seeing Gutalax playing in the middle of an Austrian forest, hearing the Baywatch theme and seeing people throwing toilet paper and inflatable sex dolls around was one of my best (and most surreal) concert experiences ever. It was the same day I managed to fall asleep standing while listening to Batushka.
I can't tell you how jealous I am that you got to see Gutalax live.
 
I’m with you there. Sold my only tube head last year and have 3 SS amps. Two of them are class D, because I’m a sinner.

I like the recorded sound of some classic riffy/stoner setups - i.e. tubes and a Ric, Ripper, Grabber, EB, etc. But for faster stuff with more changes and progressive stylings, I want a fast amp that doesn’t ‘give’ when you dig in.

I haven't had a chance to spend tons of time comparing the two, but outside of some bloom and power amp slam and grit, I haven't noticed a difference attack wise from my ABM to BTA. It might be because I always use a little grit from the pre, but the BTA does seem to keep up on articulate runs. It does bloom at the end of a run or on non staccato notes but the attack and articulation is there.

That give or mushy response has been something I've been curious about for some time as the BTA is the first tube power amp I've used for anything more than a backline.

I will say, I know my ABM will be going to lots of shows still though. Not much of a "loss" in tone and no worry about breaking tubes.


Dude! Nice! I totally dropped the ball on that show...hell I need to start paying attention to who's coming through town.
 
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I’m with you there. Sold my only tube head last year and have 3 SS amps. Two of them are class D, because I’m a sinner.

I'm just popping in on this subject to say that I'm an atheist/agnostic on the subject of SS/tubes - power amp or preamp. I have had examples of both (or all four pre/power amp combos) that I want to take behind the Jr. High and get pregnant. I've been paying my share of a practice space rental because I'm too lazy to go pick up my lead sled, and have been taking the 200W el cheapo Acoustic combo to my stoner/doom/space rock practices recently. Still think it hangs with the best of either style of my other amps, and I have a few of each at this point. I might try my 20W tube amp through my 2x15 Cabinet for bass (seriously, it's surprisingly loud, it should hang with a single combo, at least), and grab another El Cheapo 200W combo to run the synth in stereo if I get to feeling crazily athletic. If I just get semi-athletic, I'll just start running everything through the 300W tube head and the 2X15.

Had practice with the space/doom metal band today. My favorite drummer likes the same line played on distorted bass more than he likes it played on my Moog (and didn't notice it was largely the same (ok, I played it with a weird patch on the synth)). I love him, but I will have my revenge someday. :D Really, I should just get better at programming its internal sequencer (or break down and bring a laptop to practice) so I can set it running, grab the bass and satisfy all of both of us at the same time. Ooof, I've been playing too much synth, and when I have been playing bass they've all been strung with flats. The rounds on my Thunderchicken tore my fingers up. Gotta pull that one out more often or re-string it, or stop being a weenie.

But right now I've been listening to a different synth track I laid down this afternoon between work and practice. With stereo outs and one channel going through my trusty English Muff'n (very guitar tube pre) and the other going through a Behringer Bass BDI 21 (SansAmp SS bass pre clone). I keep muting one track or the other, and I couldn't live without either. Most of my recordings have a balance of both of these on each instrument. I have the ability to capture both, and I'd be nuts to pick one. You evangelists on either side are on your own. I'll be sitting on the fence laughing.

And really apropos of nothing, because it's more goth than anything. I finally noticed one of my favorite bass players is rocking a fretless Precision through a GK into a Peavey 2x15 in this ancient vid. Been watching this for something like 30 years and never noticed it. I'm dangerously unobservant, but David J. continually reinforces his status as one of my heroes.

 
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