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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

All three pedals came in and I've done a little noodling on all of them but not a lot yet. I got a little black Lerodite mini muff, a little green Rowan analog fuzz, and Satone S804 octave fuzz pedal.

The octave fuzz is pulling ahead for now since it seems to have a little more range in the amount of fuzz and keep a little more low end. They all seem to flub the signal a bit on the low B though. Not sure if that's the pedal, the amp, the signal from the bass, or going in direct.

My amp is an older Fender Rumble 60 and it has an effects loop but I need another cable to make use of it, so I'll pick one up and play around some more.
Lots of different factors could cause the flub you're hearing on the low B, could be the bass, string gauge, clipping on going direct, the amp may not be able to accurately produce the low Bs. Depending on the exact fuzz model some of them do suck out some low end or mids, main reason a lot of people use distortions with blended signals. Either or the spread you got gives you an idea of what fuzz characteristics you like and can narrow it down if you decide to commit to something more $$$ later.
 
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All three pedals came in and I've done a little noodling on all of them but not a lot yet. I got a little black Lerodite mini muff, a little green Rowan analog fuzz, and Satone S804 octave fuzz pedal.

The octave fuzz is pulling ahead for now since it seems to have a little more range in the amount of fuzz and keep a little more low end. They all seem to flub the signal a bit on the low B though. Not sure if that's the pedal, the amp, the signal from the bass, or going in direct.

My amp is an older Fender Rumble 60 and it has an effects loop but I need another cable to make use of it, so I'll pick one up and play around some more.


fuzzes don't typically play well with effects loops. my suggestion is to save yourself a ton of time and money and just get a damnation bloop pedal or the damnation dirtfixer. if you can't make a fuzz/OD sound like you want with on of those, then you're probably looking for some other effect.
 
I am very happy with the new MBD. I bought it as an in-between of OD and fuzz but its actually way heavier than the fuzz while also adding huge saturation and keeping the low end. Exactly what you want for live sound.

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I am very happy with the new MBD. I bought it as an in-between of OD and fuzz but its actually way heavier than the fuzz while also adding huge saturation and keeping the low end. Exactly what you want for live sound.

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Nice when things work out better than you hoped they would.
 
My tax return this year has transformed itself into a MIJ “midnight” P-bass, en route as we speak from reverb. Funny how tax returns have a way of doing that to themselves…

Gonna tune it BEAD and see how it measures up against my Edward’s Forrest which is my current go to.
My tax return consisted of me giving money to The Man. (insert sad face.)
 
Apropos of nothing, I got nothing.....doom-y. Our 2nd kid was born ~12 days ago, so it's all Sunshine, Lollipops And Rainbows in my world. And for some reason LUGGY TON's recent record has been going gangbusters (well, gangbusters for us small potatoes mole people). Been making a bunch of clickbait half serious promo Shorts over on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/@1stengznnng/shorts
 
Conan is playing tonight, gotta work at 7am tomorrow though. Don’t listen to them all that much, any opinions on if I should peel myself off the couch and go?
I'm not familiar with them, though I hear good things? I'm having a similar conundrum in a few weeks regarding Judas Priest. Their new album is fantastic, and I've never seen them live. Never know, but it may be my last chance to see them at this point...
 
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Do it, ya never know if it'll be the last time you can see them. I can't even name how many times I've screwed the pooch on that one...

Soundgarden (I passed on free tickets the night he passed after the show...)
Foo fighters with Taylor
Black Sabbath
RATM

Just to name a few that really get me
I feel that Black Sabbath one... When I first got into this stuff in high school, they played Ozzfest near me. Still kicking myself that I didn't go. I remember driving by the venue and seeing a sea of black in front of the stage.
 
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I could use some help with brainstorming something. I recently picked up a bass vi, the Harley Benton with what I think are the EB slinkies 20-90. My setup is a bi-amp setup where I toggle the guitar amp on-and-off for heavier parts. Here’s my thoughts:
  • my feel is lacking switching from fingers to pick but that will eventually improve with time and practice (I also recently started guitar lessons to help with my song writing) and I don’t like playing the vi with fingers
  • The sound when I’m just through the bass amp is not as good as a standard bass and is not good enough for the overall band sound
  • But, the sound I get from the vi through guitar amp and bass amp together is crazy good - to the point my wife/singer noticed and she can’t hear the difference between flats and rounds
So I’m trying to brainstorm as to what I can figure out to get the best of both worlds. Maybe a short scale bass with lighter strings or something with a mudbucker and the strat like pickups.

Any ideas? It’s not just playing with a pick that’s making the difference and I have only been using the E-G strings so far with the full band so it’s not the higher strings either.

Sorry if this is a little rambly. I’m really not great about figuring out what actually causes the good tone and how to communicate what I like.

And for reference, my normal axe is a Ric.
 
^ So you don't like how it sounds as a bass? Couple of free things I would try - adjust the bass amp better for that bass. Or use the neck pickup for bass only parts, then do a quick switch to whatever pickups at the point when you switch on the gtr amp (more coordination needed).

More hardcore would be swapping the pickups or taking out 1 or 2 of them and replace it with some kind of decent bass pickup. It's a $200 guitar so I don't know if that's worth doing or not.

If you're not using any strings above the G, I'd look around for some kind of short scale bass with strings on the light side. Sometimes older/vintage short scales will have cool sounding pickups that might cover your bases. Like a twangy old school bass sound. Also from my personal experience, the shorter scale tends to have a bit more low mid grunt thing going on which is a bit more focused when in a mix. It kind of sits nicely in between kick drum/toms and guitars. I'm kind of just spitballin here.
 
I took some mics, stands and my hand held four track over to my drummer's house to record his tween daughters' band last weekend. They're a two piece guitar/drum instrumental with Sabbath/Stooges vibes. They fscking rock for a couple of 11 year old girls. Mom's going to record some bass tracks for them soon, but it almost doesn't need it (runs and hides after covering himself with sackcloth and ashes).
 
Apropos of nothing, I got nothing.....doom-y. Our 2nd kid was born ~12 days ago, so it's all Sunshine, Lollipops And Rainbows in my world. And for some reason LUGGY TON's recent record has been going gangbusters (well, gangbusters for us small potatoes mole people). Been making a bunch of clickbait half serious promo Shorts over on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/@1stengznnng/shorts
Congratulations. Now that your playing time will be halved again, give us the insider trading info on what you are going to be selling. (Those diapers aren't cheap.)
 
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I'm not familiar with them, though I hear good things? I'm having a similar conundrum in a few weeks regarding Judas Priest. Their new album is fantastic, and I've never seen them live. Never know, but it may be my last chance to see them at this point...
Here's an indicator of my ancient-ness. I saw JP on the British Steel tour with Scorpions and Def Leppard (their first US tour, I think.) at the Stanley Theater in Pittsburgh, PA for $12.00