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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

I figure having the business degree will give me a bit more legitimacy - something I can point to to say "GIVE ME MORE MONEY".

I know we've talked about this before... do you have any certainty that this is the case (ie have you been passed on for promotions due to lack of education) or is this just an assumption? Education is an investment too, and I guess if I were in your shoes I'd be leery of spending that much $$$ on the "hopes" of it being worth it. Like I said, I'm biased because when I was at university I watched thousands of hopeful young business majors graduate thinking they were going to walk into some management position, and they're largely doing phone support and sales right now. I strongly feel that once you're past age 22, unless you're going for very specific schooling (ie. graphic design, coding language, legal, medical, etc.) you're better off kissing ass and working up the corporate ladder. For instance... would your nights be better spent in night school, or at a bar or golf course shmoozing with those execs you're rubbing shoulders with?

Of course, the degree always helps if you want to bounce outta there. But still I'd be looking at more specific majors than "business", like focusing on supply chain, economic forecasting, management, accounting, or something on that level. Theres just so many "business" majors out there!
 
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Good advice guys, thank you. I will think about a more specific and useful major than just a general degree.

I haven't hit any walls yet, but who knows what the future will bring. If having that piece of paper will give me an edge in some competitive situation in the future then it will be worth it.

I may be able to swing the education without any significant debt, I certainly won't be digging a multi-thousands-of-dollars hole at this stage in my life. I've got a good amount of the credits that I need already (younger me like to start educations then quit before I was finished - might as well use those credits for something), and I can test out of a few more classes.

We were able to pay to finish my wife's degree without borrowing anything so I think we'll be able to figure something out for me too.

But again, I appreciate the advice I will certainly consider it.
 
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What do you do for a living exactly? I know California and San Francisco are expensive and all, but I have family there that never went to school and they got houses and stuff.
I was going to be a teacher. That didn't work out, because as it turns out, I suck at it.

Right now, I'm looking for work. Problem is, I'm not a techie, so decent work isn't that easy to find.

As for your family that have houses... my family has houses, too, so how old are they and what do they do?. My dad bought the house I grew up in for 29,000 in 1973. My mom could not afford to buy that kind of house now. My grandmother lives in the house she grew up in. My aunts and uncles who own houses (and not all of them do) all bought them a long time ago, except for my uncle, who's an engineer for Lockheed. No one in my family in my generation owns any property, not even my older sisters, who are both much older than I am.

my first job out of college was a front desk bitch position at a bank. even that i was making 30k a year getting coffee for douchebags, i got the job through a temp agency.

my wife has like 16k in college debt that we still pay, right now shes paying like 80 bucks a month. not a big deal, even for someone making less money. itll take a little longer but the better jobs you get, more money you make, easier debt becomes. such is life.

if you want free college, join a black metal band and move to finland.
That's the thing, though. It used to be free here, at least here as in California. All my older family members who own houses essentially went to college for free, minus books and housing. One of my aunts, one of my uncles, and my mom were at the UC when it became not free, and so only had to pay a little bit.

Bass clip of Mr. Grumpy. No pedals, just different EQ and gain settings on Mr. Grumpy into 2 4x12s


Sounds great, especially the overdriven part.

I know we've talked about this before... do you have any certainty that this is the case (ie have you been passed on for promotions due to lack of education) or is this just an assumption? Education is an investment too, and I guess if I were in your shoes I'd be leery of spending that much $$$ on the "hopes" of it being worth it. Like I said, I'm biased because when I was at university I watched thousands of hopeful young business majors graduate thinking they were going to walk into some management position, and they're largely doing phone support and sales right now. I strongly feel that once you're past age 22, unless you're going for very specific schooling (ie. graphic design, coding language, legal, medical, etc.) you're better off kissing ass and working up the corporate ladder. For instance... would your nights be better spent in night school, or at a bar or golf course shmoozing with those execs you're rubbing shoulders with?

Of course, the degree always helps if you want to bounce outta there. But still I'd be looking at more specific majors than "business", like focusing on supply chain, economic forecasting, management, accounting, or something on that level. Theres just so many "business" majors out there!
Yeah... business schools actually do vary quite a bit in rigor and respectability. Some of them are good, and others are kind of considered joke degrees.
 
I'd rather cut my dick off than go back to school. My professional field is highly certification driven and I can barely make my mind focus on reading those books for more than 10 minutes at a time.
I can't even read books by authors I enjoy anymore and I have to force myself to read music instruction books to learn more even though I bought them and want to learn it. I can't tell if it is old age, migraines, patience, or a combination of them. So anything work related puts me right to sleep lol.
 
As for your family that have houses... my family has houses, too, so how old are they and what do they do?. My dad bought the house I grew up in for 29,000 in 1973. My mom could not afford to buy that kind of house now. My grandmother lives in the house she grew up in. My aunts and uncles who own houses (and not all of them do) all bought them a long time ago, except for my uncle, who's an engineer for Lockheed. No one in my family in my generation owns any property, not even my older sisters, who are both much older than I am.

My Dad owns a house, but he has no shortage of income. My mom and step dad have a house, but they couldnt sell it for what they paid for it. My sister has a house, but that is because my dad gave her the 20% down payment when she said she was never getting married.

I dont own a house. My "professional" work history, meaning not in school/cooking, only extends back to when I got out of grad school. I am considered "high liability" in this area based on that alone. With out a significant lump of cash for a down payment I couldnt afford anything I would live in, and I dont make enough to buy a foreclosure and fix it up. My grandpa does that, but he started out with one house 45 years ago, and has returned every penny he has made back in to increasing his holding. It only makes money because everything can be paid off in short order, and the housing market is so bad that they never go unrented.
 
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I'd rather cut my dick off than go back to school. My professional field is highly certification driven and I can barely make my mind focus on reading those books for more than 10 minutes at a time.

IT stuff would drive me batty. I was in a multimedia/coding class in middle school and realized quickly I sucked, but also that others were pretty good. So I then discovered I could view everyone else's files on the server, so I'd do my assignments by taking the choice code via guess and check from those who coded well and form my own stuff.

But I dig learning in general, and really like the research projects I've been doing.

I actually just signed up for a free 6 week every Tuesday, finance class that popped up in my email today.
 
I love Napoleonic era history, especially military strategy. I really do love the book. I just wish I could concentrate more. I also promised myself to not watch the movie before I'm done the book.
There are probably a hundred cool nonfiction books about Napoleonic war/tactics/strategy, that you could read without the agony of Tolstoy.
 
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I love Napoleonic era history, especially military strategy. I really do love the book. I just wish I could concentrate more. I also promised myself to not watch the movie before I'm done the book.

I dig ancient warfar, Greeks, Romans, Gauls, Celts, Egyptians etc. Strategy of pre and early gunpowder warfare is so interesting because arms and armor really develop how a culture would fight it's battles.
 

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