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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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I am hesitant about buying modern vinyl because far too often I have bought records that were clearly just the CD pressed to vinyl. When properly mastered for vinyl, I will pick the LP over the CD any day of the week. Every new record I have ever bought does not skip and does not have excessive surface noise. My player has little shock absorber feet and the record never skips. I know that technically vinyl does not spec better than CD but it is the same thing as a tube amp versus the latest greatest solid state amp sure the solid state amp has better specs but the tube amp gives me what I want.
 
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LowF said:
I get that and when cd's first came out, I remember missing the big 12" sleeves and the pictures and the words. All that information that we used to get and impress are friends with. But like I said, I grew up with that and part of me misses that, like my childhood and hair, but part of me has moved on and tried to embrace the new and sometimes better format. Like art and music and.......bass tone. It's all subjective. I have a few LP's from the old days, but they're primarily display items as I don't even own a turntable anymore. I know some of you are mentally DE-friending me, but that's okay, at my age, I tend to forget where I've layed my MP3's and they're always out of the sleeve.
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Nah man, wouldn't think any less of anyone for wanting consistent, convenient music. Believe me, I have 80GB or so of embracement scattered between various drives. When I can get FLAC files or rips from virgin vinyl, I like it just as well. But the ritual of just listening fits so well with vinyl that even with sometimes superior digital music, it can't be replaced. For me, anyways (:
 
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Tractorr said:
I am hesitant about buying modern vinyl because far too often I have bought records that were clearly just the CD pressed to vinyl. When properly mastered for vinyl, I will pick the LP over the CD any day of the week. Every new record I have ever bought does not skip and does not have excessive surface noise. My player has little shock absorber feet and the record never skips. I know that technically vinyl does not spec better than CD but it is the same thing as a tube amp versus the latest greatest solid state amp sure the solid state amp has better specs but the tube amp gives me what I want.
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It can be hard to track down information on whether it was a specific vinyl master or just the CD master used. I think I found a site once that was devoted to publishing that information for re-pressings and new vinyl.
 
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RAMUSIC said:
It can be hard to track down information on whether it was a specific vinyl master or just the CD master used. I think I found a site once that was devoted to publishing that information for re-pressings and new vinyl.
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It is hard to track down but when it sounds super compressed and the high end sounds really brittle I make a mental note not to listen to that vinyl and download the FLAC files. 9 times out of 10 the FLAC files sound better than the vinyl. Vinyl is just not made for really compressed audio with lots of highs and really low lows.
 
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LowF said:
I don't get the vinyl thing. I was born in 1964. I grew up listening to vinyl and the scratches and skips and I don't miss it. I love cd's and MP3's, yet it's scorned at by all the people that listen to this genre. I've been enjoying this kind of slow, de-tuned, turned up music since my uncle played the first Sabbath record (yes, vinyl) in a dark room at pretty unreasonable, yet enjoyable for a seven year old, levels. I've been collecting cd's and ripping them to high bit rate MP3's for years. And... like the rest of us, I've downloaded tunes to check out what's new and interesting. Like with Ron's band, first I checked them out on YouTube, checking out some play-lists and then downloaded a couple of albums and like the rest of us, bought the rest from their sight. I can see where vinyl is a cool retro thing, but seriously, I'd rather have a cd that I can rip onto my iPod and play in the car through my Bluetooth connection. I can't see too many of us older guys (and girls) who lived through the different stages of recorded music, just dying to hear some scratchy vinyl and heaven forbid you walk across the room in an older home or feel the need to dance, or sneeze.
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new vinyl shouldn't be scratchy and if you're careful you should be able to keep them that way. Having said that I like the sound of vinyl masters compared to digital masters. the extremes are usually rolled off and the levels aren't pushed to the red. It's enjoyable to listen to. Don't get me wrong if I had to choose between keeping my vinyl or my MP3s I's take MP3 in heartbeat. But vinyl does sound better to me, when I'm concentrating, and it's fun to collect.
 
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I have a 2013 corolla I dig it but wish I had a Honda fit for the space.

As long as the car wasn't a rust bucket, has AC, and doesn't require work all the time I'm golden. Don't care about looks, style, performance etc.

I can only go as fast as traffic. And I rather have other stuff like a nicer house than car.
 
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So our show on saturday was part of a DIY fest called Gnarfest which was divided up over a couple of days and a few venues. We closed everything out with an outdoor show at the Logan Square monument. So outside, in a public park/space, where we were allowed to be as loud as we could be, and be a nuisance to my home neighborhood and the surrounding area.

It was one of the most fun shows I've done in my time playing music, there were a ton of people and everyone seemed generally excited to be there. People were everywhere, climbing up the monument, surrounding us for as far as I could see. Easily 200/300 people just hanging out in the park. Got a little rowdy, and due to a very strict time curfew we had to cut our set short. But overall it was an insane experience, and I'm really stoked I got to be a part of it.
 
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Ron Now said:
So our show on saturday was part of a DIY fest called Gnarfest which was divided up over a couple of days and a few venues. We closed everything out with an outdoor show at the Logan Square monument. So outside, in a public park/space, where we were allowed to be as loud as we could be, and be a nuisance to my home neighborhood and the surrounding area.

It was one of the most fun shows I've done in my time playing music, there were a ton of people and everyone seemed generally excited to be there. People were everywhere, climbing up the monument, surrounding us for as far as I could see. Easily 200/300 people just hanging out in the park. Got a little rowdy, and due to a very strict time curfew we had to cut our set short. But overall it was an insane experience, and I'm really stoked I got to be a part of it.
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The photos looked awesome, almost like something you'd see at one of the outdoor European festivals. Very cool of the city gov't to do something like that...

... no one got shot, right?
 
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bassboysam said:
new vinyl shouldn't be scratchy and if you're careful you should be able to keep them that way. Having said that I like the sound of vinyl masters compared to digital masters. the extremes are usually rolled off and the levels aren't pushed to the red. It's enjoyable to listen to. Don't get me wrong if I had to choose between keeping my vinyl or my MP3s I's take MP3 in heartbeat. But vinyl does sound better to me, when I'm concentrating, and it's fun to collect.
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My thoughts exactly.
 
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LowF said:
I don't get the vinyl thing. I was born in 1964. I grew up listening to vinyl and the scratches and skips and I don't miss it. I love cd's and MP3's, yet it's scorned at by all the people that listen to this genre. I've been enjoying this kind of slow, de-tuned, turned up music since my uncle played the first Sabbath record (yes, vinyl) in a dark room at pretty unreasonable, yet enjoyable for a seven year old, levels. I've been collecting cd's and ripping them to high bit rate MP3's for years. And... like the rest of us, I've downloaded tunes to check out what's new and interesting. Like with Ron's band, first I checked them out on YouTube, checking out some play-lists and then downloaded a couple of albums and like the rest of us, bought the rest from their sight. I can see where vinyl is a cool retro thing, but seriously, I'd rather have a cd that I can rip onto my iPod and play in the car through my Bluetooth connection. I can't see too many of us older guys (and girls) who lived through the different stages of recorded music, just dying to hear some scratchy vinyl and heaven forbid you walk across the room in an older home or feel the need to dance, or sneeze.
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My 2cents: Vinyl lets me buy something I cannot get for free. it lets me support a band who's digital music I might already have in pocket. It has big artwork. It takes effort to get up and flip the record and clean the side and drop the needle right - so listening to vinyl usually means I'm not doing anything else - I'm focused. Most of all - it's analog. [The vinyl I bought new doesn't skip or pop because I clean it and take care of - this doesn't include the vinyl I bought in high school though]
 
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RAMUSIC said:
I pay a little more for colored vinyl, preorders that I'm excited about, and especially colored vinyl or picture discs. Oh, and double albums xD
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I believe the proper term is African American vinyl.

My phono preamp into computer speakers gave me volume control on this setup. Time to go to the pawn shop and goodwill
 
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dcarwin said:
My 2cents: Vinyl lets me buy something I cannot get for free. it lets me support a band who's digital music I might already have in pocket. It has big artwork. It takes effort to get up and flip the record and clean the side and drop the needle right - so listening to vinyl usually means I'm not doing anything else - I'm focused. Most of all - it's analog. [The vinyl I bought new doesn't skip or pop because I clean it and take care of - this doesn't include the vinyl I bought in high school though]
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The free record player I got i pop the record on and press start and it sets itself and starts playing. What do I do to clean the playing side? Nintendo cartridge blow method?
 
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