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Stoner/Doom Bassists Thread, Part 90: Maxed Out

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How do you guys play loud in Low C? I asked bunch of tech support from Peavey, EV, Dayton Audio and so on, and they told me that Low C is about 32 hz which is below most of the usable frequency of speakers (40hz ~ 5khz)

I just wanna make some earthquake but at the same time, afraid of blowing up drivers with low frequencies... and thus, decreasing volume. :crying:

What do you guys normally do to play loud in low notes?
 
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CL400Peavey said:
K512 mk2. For $30.

Just for home lisening.
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I'm kind of bad at making suggestions for home listening, I always listen like an engineer and want super flat response. Most listeners seem to want exaggerated low end and "glassy highs". I haven't had any experience with that model directly, but AKG, Audio Technica and Sennheiser all have pretty good quality over heard headphones in the $50 range. I'm buying a few of the ATH-M20x for new tracking headphones pretty soon. When I buy stuff like that though, it's more for isolation and volume than recreational listening. For my personal listening I like Sennheiser HD280's, but they're double the price.
 
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Netherlord said:
How do you guys play loud in Low C? I asked bunch of tech support from Peavey, EV, Dayton Audio and so on, and they told me that Low C is about 32 hz which is below most of the usable frequency of speakers (40hz ~ 5khz)

I just wanna make some earthquake but at the same time, afraid of blowing up drivers with low frequencies... and thus, decreasing volume. :crying:

What do you guys normally do to play loud in low notes?
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Talking about fundamental notes in relation to gear is very misleading and unproductive. Go look up the fundamental frequency for low E on a bass, find a tone generator and pump it through any decent speaker. It will be almost inaudible at relatively loud volumes. Then put on a cd and get your ear drums blasted out. I've used 50-80 Hz tones to test my acoustic treatments in my mixing room and even that is difficult to hear without being completely isolated and paying close attention. Most of what you're hearing with instruments isn't the fundamental note, there's a lot of fluctuating frequencies happening all the time and the ones that make that note perceptibly louder to the human ear aren't the fundamental. So corresponding fundamental frequencies of low notes to speakers is a fool's errand. The Fletcher-Munson curve is a useful piece of information to dip you toe into psychoacoustics and that sort of thing. It's nothing obscure or cutting edge, I learned most of that stuff from reading books on recording written in the 50's, when I wanted to improve my understanding of non-technological recording and mixing basics.
 
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Netherlord said:
So I guess, in order to play loud without stressing the speakers, I just gotta get efficient speakers, right?
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It is only one spec to look at.

Are you talking about C, half step above a 5 string?

Corey Y said:
I'm kind of bad at making suggestions for home listening, I always listen like an engineer and want super flat response. Most listeners seem to want exaggerated low end and "glassy highs". I haven't had any experience with that model directly, but AKG, Audio Technica and Sennheiser all have pretty good quality over heard headphones in the $50 range. I'm buying a few of the ATH-M20x for new tracking headphones pretty soon. When I buy stuff like that though, it's more for isolation and volume than recreational listening. For my personal listening I like Sennheiser HD280's, but they're double the price.
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I might pick upt the 512's tomorrow. They are in the company store, so I can return them easy if I dont like them.
 
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I mean, I'm pretty sure that they made a cab for the drivers, since it was designed and manufactured by the speaker company itself.

Well, the downside is that since I'm buying an used cab, I have no idea if the previous owner changed the driver or not.. hopefully he didn't....
 
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Another busy one.

Got my company birthday meal/card.
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This with a coffee refill was $5. Who says hospital food sucks? Sausage and mushroom omlet with green chili.

Can't wait for Saturday. Opening for Jucifer should be fun. Birthday shots at midnight! Two more hell days to get through. One at a time... ;)
 
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Netherlord said:
How do you guys play loud in Low C? I asked bunch of tech support from Peavey, EV, Dayton Audio and so on, and they told me that Low C is about 32 hz which is below most of the usable frequency of speakers (40hz ~ 5khz)

I just wanna make some earthquake but at the same time, afraid of blowing up drivers with low frequencies... and thus, decreasing volume. :crying:

What do you guys normally do to play loud in low notes?
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I just use more speakers. Two 410 cabs push plenty of air and let me run my amp at 4 ohms so I max out my power output. I get plenty loud in C and B standard but dial in some low mids to make myself heard a bit clearer.

I would imagine bass cabs are designed to handle a fair amount of low end anyway so I can't really see drivers carking it from playing in C unless your amp is putting out more power than your cab can handle.

Then again I'm no expert on poopie so pphhfffttttt.
 

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