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Stuff you hate to hear another Bassist Say
- Thread starter Kalyptic
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"I heard from a friend that you are on Talk Bass a lot."
"Every once in a while, good reviews and some funny stori-"
"DUDE!!! Don't go there!!! They bash on Fenders"
"What?"(as I'm backing away slowly)
True story.
"Every once in a while, good reviews and some funny stori-"
"DUDE!!! Don't go there!!! They bash on Fenders"
"What?"(as I'm backing away slowly)
True story.
I would have been compelled to educate the young lad or beat him severly about the head and shoulders...depending on my mood!
that is one of the most ignorant things i'd hear a bassist say.
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You do realize Jaco ain't THAT popular, I only heard of him when I started going on here, while he is good, he is a JAZZ bassist. Not everybody plays jazz, so they don't look into bassists in that genre. Do you expect everybody that picks up bass to instantly know who Jaco is, no. I guarantee you guys most younger players don't know who he is, why? again he is not a player in our generation and ain't that popular in the first place. You can't argue on his influence but you can on his popularity. Face it the only time i've EVER heard someone in person talk of jaco besides me mentioning it was when my bass teacher did.
Jeese some bassists on this forum get so worked up on Jaco like he was Jesus or something.
I'm not a Jaco worshipper. I don't know Birdland and I can't play you Teen Town, and I don't go searching for that Jaco tone.
But I have many of his albums, follow his work, and have massive and severe respect. You have to understand that Jaco is one of these people who helped liberate the bass from supporting role to solo instrument. Jamerson, Clarke, Pastorius... all these guys changes the climate of Bass.
Donna Lee. That's all I have to say.
BUT- I still occassionally find this music UNLISTENABLE. I bought the Weather Report boxed set, and while it's not ALL Jaco playing the bass (other ridiculously talented bass players are on there), I had to literally force myself to get through that catalogue. Some of Jaco's stuff is really mind-boggling, but I'm not a fusion cat so lots of it falls on deaf ears. But I do try, because I realize a great musician/composer when I see one. I'm working on Coltrane melodies and theories right now, but I don't play sax.
It's just a matter of respect. You don't have to like Jaco, or Victor, or Stanley or Marcus or Jamerson... But as a bass player, you need to understand that the cats you're listening to who YOU idolize, idolize these "unpopular" guys. There's an amazing journey you can take when you listen to what YOUR idol idolizes. Then you take it another step. And another. And another. Then you're listening to classic Bach piano suites and listening so intently to the left hand on that piano- and the simply wicked bass lines that J.S. pumped out.
There's a WORLD of music out there, and it is directly connected to you. The history of all the music that has been is living today in our basses.
Deep.
But I have many of his albums, follow his work, and have massive and severe respect. You have to understand that Jaco is one of these people who helped liberate the bass from supporting role to solo instrument. Jamerson, Clarke, Pastorius... all these guys changes the climate of Bass.
Donna Lee. That's all I have to say.
BUT- I still occassionally find this music UNLISTENABLE. I bought the Weather Report boxed set, and while it's not ALL Jaco playing the bass (other ridiculously talented bass players are on there), I had to literally force myself to get through that catalogue. Some of Jaco's stuff is really mind-boggling, but I'm not a fusion cat so lots of it falls on deaf ears. But I do try, because I realize a great musician/composer when I see one. I'm working on Coltrane melodies and theories right now, but I don't play sax.
It's just a matter of respect. You don't have to like Jaco, or Victor, or Stanley or Marcus or Jamerson... But as a bass player, you need to understand that the cats you're listening to who YOU idolize, idolize these "unpopular" guys. There's an amazing journey you can take when you listen to what YOUR idol idolizes. Then you take it another step. And another. And another. Then you're listening to classic Bach piano suites and listening so intently to the left hand on that piano- and the simply wicked bass lines that J.S. pumped out.
There's a WORLD of music out there, and it is directly connected to you. The history of all the music that has been is living today in our basses.
Deep.
the worst one i ever heard was
"dude is it ok if i run through your amp mine is in the car"
no you bloody cant i had to lug that thing up 2 flights of stairs while YOU sat at the bar and chatting up the barmaid
"yeah i been playin bass for 10 years i'm nearly pro... man your strings feel weird what are they?"
there FLATWOUNDS you numpty how can you call yourself pro when you dont know the difference between flat and round?!!
"dude dont you think pete wentz is sweet on bass i think he should be up there with the pro's in the hall of fame"
your worse than hitler!!!
"dude is it ok if i run through your amp mine is in the car"
no you bloody cant i had to lug that thing up 2 flights of stairs while YOU sat at the bar and chatting up the barmaid
"yeah i been playin bass for 10 years i'm nearly pro... man your strings feel weird what are they?"
there FLATWOUNDS you numpty how can you call yourself pro when you dont know the difference between flat and round?!!
"dude dont you think pete wentz is sweet on bass i think he should be up there with the pro's in the hall of fame"
your worse than hitler!!!
I'm not a Jaco worshipper. I don't know Birdland and I can't play you Teen Town, and I don't go searching for that Jaco tone.
But I have many of his albums, follow his work, and have massive and severe respect. You have to understand that Jaco is one of these people who helped liberate the bass from supporting role to solo instrument. Jamerson, Clarke, Pastorius... all these guys changes the climate of Bass.
Donna Lee. That's all I have to say.
BUT- I still occassionally find this music UNLISTENABLE. I bought the Weather Report boxed set, and while it's not ALL Jaco playing the bass (other ridiculously talented bass players are on there), I had to literally force myself to get through that catalogue. Some of Jaco's stuff is really mind-boggling, but I'm not a fusion cat so lots of it falls on deaf ears. But I do try, because I realize a great musician/composer when I see one. I'm working on Coltrane melodies and theories right now, but I don't play sax.
It's just a matter of respect. You don't have to like Jaco, or Victor, or Stanley or Marcus or Jamerson... But as a bass player, you need to understand that the cats you're listening to who YOU idolize, idolize these "unpopular" guys. There's an amazing journey you can take when you listen to what YOUR idol idolizes. Then you take it another step. And another. And another. Then you're listening to classic Bach piano suites and listening so intently to the left hand on that piano- and the simply wicked bass lines that J.S. pumped out.
There's a WORLD of music out there, and it is directly connected to you. The history of all the music that has been is living today in our basses.
Deep.
Are you responding to my post because it doesn't really contradict what I said. I'm not knocking him as a player, I'm knocking the bassists who seem to think he was god and knock down other bassists that don't know of him. Face it you can be a good bassist and not know Jaco, just like one can be a good guitarist without knowing hendrix or a good drummer without knowing Peart.
Jaco isn't bass, Jaco played bass this is what some people need to understand.
You just officially won the internet. Bravo, good sir.I'm not a Jaco worshipper. I don't know Birdland and I can't play you Teen Town, and I don't go searching for that Jaco tone.
But I have many of his albums, follow his work, and have massive and severe respect. You have to understand that Jaco is one of these people who helped liberate the bass from supporting role to solo instrument. Jamerson, Clarke, Pastorius... all these guys changes the climate of Bass.
Donna Lee. That's all I have to say.
BUT- I still occassionally find this music UNLISTENABLE. I bought the Weather Report boxed set, and while it's not ALL Jaco playing the bass (other ridiculously talented bass players are on there), I had to literally force myself to get through that catalogue. Some of Jaco's stuff is really mind-boggling, but I'm not a fusion cat so lots of it falls on deaf ears. But I do try, because I realize a great musician/composer when I see one. I'm working on Coltrane melodies and theories right now, but I don't play sax.
It's just a matter of respect. You don't have to like Jaco, or Victor, or Stanley or Marcus or Jamerson... But as a bass player, you need to understand that the cats you're listening to who YOU idolize, idolize these "unpopular" guys. There's an amazing journey you can take when you listen to what YOUR idol idolizes. Then you take it another step. And another. And another. Then you're listening to classic Bach piano suites and listening so intently to the left hand on that piano- and the simply wicked bass lines that J.S. pumped out.
There's a WORLD of music out there, and it is directly connected to you. The history of all the music that has been is living today in our basses.
Deep.
Listen to this man, he's got some great points.
No, Peaveyuser, I'm not trying to contradict anything you have said. I don't think you're wrong, either. As I said, I don't worship Jaco at all. But if you wonder why some bassists may think Jaco is Jesus, just know it's probably bigger than just one crazy crackhead playing some wicked bass.
EDIT: But I completely, 100% disagree with anyone who puts down other bass players for not knowing who Jaco is, so you've got my complete thumbs up on that one. I didn't know who Jaco was till about 8 or so years into playing bass.
EDIT: But I completely, 100% disagree with anyone who puts down other bass players for not knowing who Jaco is, so you've got my complete thumbs up on that one. I didn't know who Jaco was till about 8 or so years into playing bass.
"if you want to play jazz, youre going to have to play upright. electric doesnt sound right for jazz." -every critic at every jazz festival ive ever played at.
ahem. excuse me. i dont believe its up to you what iplay. if i wanted to be playing an upright, i would be playing an upright. as for "not getting anywhere," let me mention a certain mr pastorius -- he knew more about music and musicianship than you could ever hope to. critique me on my playing, not my equipment, a**f*****.
"you need to get a fender." -former bass teacher
no, actually i dont. there is no need there, my existence is in no way contingent on whether or not i posess a fender.
i will play on whatever bass i like, whatever feels good to me, whatever the f*** i choose to play on.
ahem. excuse me. i dont believe its up to you what iplay. if i wanted to be playing an upright, i would be playing an upright. as for "not getting anywhere," let me mention a certain mr pastorius -- he knew more about music and musicianship than you could ever hope to. critique me on my playing, not my equipment, a**f*****.
"you need to get a fender." -former bass teacher
no, actually i dont. there is no need there, my existence is in no way contingent on whether or not i posess a fender.
i will play on whatever bass i like, whatever feels good to me, whatever the f*** i choose to play on.
It's not something they say... but if i hear the intro to "around the world" on more time as a warm up i can't be held responsible for my actions
I love it when people call me a basstard! Ya know.. cause I kinda am! Anywho.... have you ever heard of Bach or Beethoven? Oh thats right..you are probably not a classical player so you surely have never heard of them either!
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Many different genres have their own so called "standards".
For example, there are a-LOT (Not all
)of bluegrass players that dislike any other bass except the upright (Mostly traditional bluegrass).I have a relative that heads up a bluegrass band that tends to act like an "elitist", when it comes to electric bass in traditional bluegrass. (He's the front man and guitar player, still a newbie in comparison to the rest of the band),I enjoy it when he "tells me like it is", as though I started playing yesterday, fact is I have 2 decades on him as a musician. Go figure.
I hate when I get a new amp/bass... etc. ,and then my fellow bassist sais..."hmm... great stuff,how much was it? XXX (insert cost)... well it doesn't worth it... for you!" Ohh man... Why should I care about your opinion? I have just shown the equipment, and doesn't really wanted such comments about it. I bought it, because I liked it,I bought it because i can afford it,not because I deserve it! Am I true?
