Tal Wilkenfeld, who's like her?

[wishface]

She should be good, allowed to quit school at 16, fly to America and given 36 thousand bucks by her parents to spend 2 years at bass school, then with her teachers connections heads to NY to start playing with the pros.

Is this true?

 

[RotoRick]

Is this true?

Yes it is, read her bio, picked up the guitar at 14 on her own, by 16 realized school wasn't working for her, then flew to America and went to a music school in LA, part way through she switched to bass because everyone told her her playing was more like a bass player than a guitarist.

As soon as she left school she headed to NY and right away started playing at clubs with name brand players there. Her teachers at LA were her connections to the players she met in NY and the rest is history.

So when you have no responsibilitys, and nothing more to do than sit around and play bass all day and with the musical training she had she got good.

 

[T-MOST]

She can play no question. I bought her debut CD But, I'm not blown away by her material so far.

 

[JAUQO III-X]

Considering who you dig I'm surprised you don't enjoy Hadrien or Janek.

Kwesi just because Biily Low likes who he likes, has nothing at all to do with who you like.


It really is apples and oranges

 

[wishface]

difficult one really; can't blame her for having parents willing to support her to the tune of 36 grand. I certainly wouldn't have refused had it been me.

 

[notverygood]

I'm glad she didn't refuse, I enjoy listening to her play.

 

[Phil Smith]

Never underestimate the power of money and it's ability to grease wheels.

 

[willgroove2]

Thanks for the shout out will. It's nice to be compared to a killer bassist by a killer bassist. I have checked out a bit of Tal and she is a solid player. And don't be confused by YouTube clips. Just because somebody posts a clip of someone soloing and playing a bunch of notes doesn't mean that is all they can do. "soulful" groove players should have some solo chops and "virtuouso bass gods" should be able to hold a groove. To me it comes down to what players are great bass players and what players are great musicians. I think Tal fits into this category... But so do a ton of other bass players. The guy from Snarky Puppy comes to mind as similar to Tal. And if you think I do then follow the links in my sig or look up Tim Seisser on YouTube.... Judge for yourself. And I am humbled by the comparison.

My point was that many people were over the top praising Tal based on her soloing with Jeff Beck declaring it to be something more than what it was;a nice solo I like the way you play and I wanted to show that there is another level to that type of thing done by someone who they might not know. All the guy's I posted work very hard at their craft,lead bands and write music and happen to be friends of mine

 

[wishface]

I don't think she bribed anyone! That's somewhat extreme!

 

[Kwesi]

Kwesi just because Biily Low likes who he likes, has nothing at all to do with who you like.

It really is apples and oranges

Never said that it does.

 

[JAUQO III-X]

Most of the guys that failed to get mentioned on TB! Charnett Moffett is truly incredible. Sekou Bunch is one that you would really have to see live to greatly appreciate. Matt Garrison, Richard Bona and Etienne Mbappe, to name a few. As for female bass players, there is a local player by the name of Aleata Holloway that is a BEAST! Her playing is very diverse as wel as creatively soulful. I have seen her start off with a flamenco style, Stanley Clarkesque riff into a thump that would make both Larry and Louis proud. All along singing something soulful that was just this side of MeShell Ndegeocello, with some really beautiful melodic melodic chordal work interwoven. She would make folks think twice about giving Tal so much credit...but then too Aleata, altough beautiful, is a bit older, and African American, so she may not get the same reception from some of those that really are listening with their eyes.

Considering who you dig I'm surprised you don't enjoy Hadrien or Janek.

Kwesi just because Biily Low likes who he likes, has nothing at all to do with who you like.


It really is apples and oranges

Never said that it does.

You really did.

 

[bass12]

So when you have no responsibilitys, and nothing more to do than sit around and play bass all day and with the musical training she had she got good.

Never underestimate the power of money and it's ability to grease wheels.

I fail to see what this has got to do with anything. Money doesn't buy talent and it certainly doesn't buy feel. This is just getting ridiculous. I'll have to remember next time to read a musician/composer's bio before I decide whether or not that person is worthy of my admiration because, obviously, just using my ears isn't good enough.

And RotoRick, I'm still waiting for your thoughts on Miles Davis.

 

[SoVeryTired]

You really did.

I don't think he did. It was nothing to do with who Kwesi likes, more Kwesi thinking that Billy would like certain bassists based on other bassists that Billy likes.

I think. But I could be wrong - American isn't my first language.

 

[Kwesi]

You really did.

No, i didnt. know what I wrote. I mean, I did write it after all. I just found it interesting is all. He Doesn't have to like anyone I like and he doesn't have talk about it if he doesn't want to. You'rereading a bit too much into it.

 

[Kwesi]

I don't think he did. It was nothing to do with who Kwesi likes, more Kwesi thinking that Billy would like certain bassists based on other bassists that Billy likes.

I think. But I could be wrong - American isn't my first language.

This is it exactly.

 

[JAUQO III-X]

No, i didnt. know what I wrote. I mean, I did write it after all. I just found it interesting is all. He Doesn't have to like anyone I like and he doesn't have talk about it if he doesn't want I just found it interesting albeit off topic. Your reading a bit too much into it.

Ok let me clarifie. We all at TB know how much you are into Hadrien and Jamek (and there's nothing wrong with that) and that's what I was basing my comment off of.

 

[Lon86]

I like her playing...sweet and dainty.

 

[Gab124]

I have read through most of this thread, but not all. Strange conversation really; not very neighborly in places. I like Tal, and she is a talented player. I like many other players too. Oddly, some of the "greats" as some call them don't move me musically like many of the unknowns. But they are all good - credit where credit is due. However Tal got to where she is great for her, I wish I could be working successfully in the music field and paying all the bills - and playing as tastefully as her as well.

 

[Phil Smith]

I fail to see what this has got to do with anything. Money doesn't buy talent and it certainly doesn't buy feel. This is just getting ridiculous. I'll have to remember next time to read a musician/composer's bio before I decide whether or not that person is worthy of my admiration because, obviously, just using my ears isn't good enough.

And RotoRick, I'm still waiting for your thoughts on Miles Davis.

Having access to capital enables you to do a lot of things that you can't do if you don't have access to it.

With access to capital a person doesn't have to worry about spending time working to pay for things like rent, food, equipment, lessons, studio time, studio musicians, sidemen, arrangers, etc. When you can spend more time on music and you spend that time on music you get better. With access to capital you can study with all types of people that you couldn't if you didn't and that's going to make you better. With access to capital you can hire web developers, PR people, photographers, etc.

This is how money has power and how it has the ability to grease the wheels.

 

[Jared Lash]

This is it exactly.

That's how I took it. Sort of the, "you like James Brown and Parliament but don't like the Meters?"

Seems like a logical extension and legitimate question to me.