Tatoos on Women?

[king_biscuit]

Every chosen aspect of one's appearance and lifestyle is a fashion statement. It's how we tell the world who we are.

I'm assuming you're an American and are commenting on America, correct? If so, I would wager that tattooing, and other forms of body modification have been a lot more prevalent here than you realize over the last 250 years. In fact, you'd be hard pressed to find any culture in world history in which body modification was absent. Certain kinds of modification are so common that they aren't even realized as such.

That's true of course (make up, ear rings, tanning, and roadworns to name a few), and it all seems a little primitive to me. However, 20 years ago I didn't see any grandmothers walking around Wal Mart with tramp stamps. I would wager that the majority of people in the US who got a tat over the last 15 years did so because they were trying to identify with a particular group or image. That's fine, but unlike workout leggins and net shirts, tats are rather permanent.

 

[king_biscuit]

I just wanna be different like everyone else!!!

+1 there is your prime motivation for tattoos, IMO.

 

[Sgt. Rock]

That's true of course (make up, ear rings, tanning, and roadworns to name a few), and it all seems a little primitive to me. However, 20 years ago I didn't see any grandmothers walking around Wal Mart with tramp stamps. I would wager that the majority of people in the US who got a tat over the last 15 years did so because they were trying to identify with a particular group or image. That's fine, but unlike workout leggins and net shirts, tats are rather permanent.

Lasers dude.

 

[king_biscuit]

Lasers dude.

Ok, but there can be complications with that, it may not work 100 percent, and its expensive. It certainly was easier just to take the Members Only jacket off...

 

[LiquidMidnight]

These tats for the most part are a fashion statement, and they only became popular over the last 15 years or so. If what you argued was true, we would have had mass tattoo wearing for the last 250 years. Its no different than Nike sneakers in the 80s and flannel grunge in the 90s, with the exception that a full set of body tats are not going to be easy to remove once the fashion trends change. Hey do what you want, I'm just stating my opinion.

Where did I make an argument? I just stated that people get tattoos for different reasons and stated my different reasons for tattoos. I'm not going to try and make a be-all-end-all statement of why people get tattoos. It's not like any of us here have went and completed extensive ethnographies on tattoo culture.

Frankly, I don't get why so many people here feel so strongly about making an argument that it is trendy. Is it some form of non-tattoo elitism? What ever floats your boat, I guess.

 

[king_biscuit]

Where did I make an argument? I just stated that people get tattoos for different reasons and stated my different reasons for tattoos. I'm not going to try and make a be-all-end-all statement of why people get tattoos. It's not like any of us here have went and completed extensive ethnographies on tattoo culture.

Frankly, I don't get why so many people here feel so strongly about making an argument that it is trendy. Is it some form of non-tattoo elitism? What ever floats your boat, I guess.

I didn't mean argument in the colloquial sense. btw, you are just as adamant in demanding that tats are something besides fashion as anybody who thinks otherwise.

 

[ugly_bassplayer]

Is it some form of non-tattoo elitism? What ever floats your boat, I guess.

I'm starting to think that yes it is.

 

[LiquidMidnight]

I didn't mean argument in the colloquial sense. btw, you are just as adamant in demanding that tats are something besides fashion as anybody who thinks otherwise.

Where did I say that? If you go back to my post from the previous page, I explicitly stated that a few of the tattoos I have I got purely for aesthetic purposes:

[quote="Liquidmidnight]I run the gamut on pieces. I have everything from flash work that I just really liked for the sake of aesthetics to deeply personal custom pieces...[/quote]

Never did I deny that tattoos can be for fashion purposes. I'm stating that in addition to fashion, they can hold deeper meaning - but you can't automatically assume one way or another. You're so hellbent on proving a point that tattoos are on par with mullets and bullet belts that you're putting words in people's mouths.

 

[Sgt. Rock]

Ok, but there can be complications with that, it may not work 100 percent, and its expensive. It certainly was easier just to take the Members Only jacket off...

Every issue you raised is being resolved as technology progresses. Except for Members Only jackets.

 

[eyeballkid]

These tats for the most part are a fashion statement, and they only became popular over the last 15 years or so. If what you argued was true, we would have had mass tattoo wearing for the last 250 years. Its no different than Nike sneakers in the 80s and flannel grunge in the 90s, with the exception that a full set of body tats are not going to be easy to remove once the fashion trends change. Hey do what you want, I'm just stating my opinion.

not true. tattoos have become popular in the last 15-20 years not because of a trend, but because of the level of the artwork being pushed into unparalleled levels previous in history. Up to about 1985, sure, you could get a solid taz or a biker flash dragon, but it wasn't until people like Kari Barba, or Guy Aitchison, Jonathan Shaw, Filip Leu, and Jack Rudy started pushing the envelope both design wise as well as craft wise in the late 80s and early 90s that the artistry began to reach a level that a wide variety of people would suddenly consider to be worth bodily real estate. Once techniques were developed that allowed for greater realism and subtlety the level of expectations rose and FINALLY droves of gifted artists were drawn to the craft. Put gifted and inspired people into any field of endeavor and its not long before the general populace takes note. its pretty much historical fact, the rise in tattooing's popularity directly follows the rise of its artistic achievements in the western world.
check it: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

http://www.leufamilyiron.com/site/tattoo.php

http://www.xedtattoo.com/gallery_1/gallery1.html

http://www.tomrenshaw.com/gallery/portraits-people/

 

[Kwesi]

Still failing to see how a tattoo is all that different from an article of clothing. Frankly, I'd probably have a lower opinion of someone wearing crocs outside than someone with a tattoo of any kind unless it was just horribly done.

 

[king_biscuit]

not true. tattoos have become popular in the last 15-20 years not because of a trend, but because of the level of the artwork being pushed into unparalleled levels previous in history. Up to about 1985, sure, you could get a solid taz or a biker flash dragon, but it wasn't until people like Kari Barba, or Guy Aitchison, Jonathan Shaw, Filip Leu, and Jack Rudy started pushing the envelope both design wise as well as craft wise in the late 80s and early 90s that the artistry began to reach a level that a wide variety of people would suddenly consider to be worth bodily real estate. Once techniques were developed that allowed for greater realism and subtlety the level of expectations rose and FINALLY droves of gifted artists were drawn to the craft. Put gifted and inspired people into any field of endeavor and its not long before the general populace takes note. its pretty much historical fact, the rise in tattooing's popularity directly follows the rise of its artistic achievements in the western world.
check it: [Invalid or Expired Link Removed]

http://www.leufamilyiron.com/site/tattoo.php

http://www.xedtattoo.com/gallery_1/gallery1.html

ok.

 

[king_biscuit]

Every issue you raised is being resolved as technology progresses. Except for Members Only jackets.

LOL!! Not the cost:

http://www.drtattoff.com/laser-tattoo-removal-cost

You are going to have to take out a loan to get rid of that sleeve!

 

[Sgt. Rock]

LOL!! Not the cost:

http://www.drtattoff.com/laser-tattoo-removal-cost

You are going to have to take out a loan to get rid of that sleeve!

(1) I'm not getting rid of mine.

(2) Laser removal will become more and more affordable in time. Just watch.

 

[king_biscuit]

(1) I'm not getting rid of mine.

(2) Laser removal will become more and more affordable in time. Just watch.

Making medical treatment more affordable is not good business, so I am skeptical. Still I wouldn't get into a full sleeve with the idea that if I change my mind later its just a laser away from being gone.

 

[Sgt. Rock]

Making medical treatment more affordable is not good business, so I am skeptical. Still I wouldn't get into a full sleeve with the idea that if I change my mind later its just a laser away from being gone.

People who do that are unquestionably stupid.

 

[Kwesi]

Making medical treatment more affordable is not good business.

Says who exactly? LASIK surgeries and many cosmetic surgical procedures have become significantly more affordable over time and many more people opt to have them because of that. Of course, that price drop doesn't out of nowhere, the farther things are from the cutting edge (which is constantly moving forward) the cheaper it will be to make.

 

[king_biscuit]

Says who exactly? LASIK surgeries and many cosmetic surgical procedures have become significantly more affordable over time and many more people opt to have them because of that. Of course, that price drop doesn't out of nowhere, the farther things are from the cutting edge (which is constantly moving forward) the cheaper it will be to make.

Is this what we are arguing now? I can show you what it costs today to have a tattoo removed, and I posted a link above. Who knows what the future holds, but I still say it was easier to remove the Members Only jacket.

 

[eyeballkid]

at our shop laser removal is $90 for smallish stuff..$150 for as much as you can take up to an hour for bigger stuff.. usually takes 4-12 treatments depending on several factors.

MOST removals are homemade stuff, ex's names, and poorly done tattoos.

 

[king_biscuit]

at our shop laser removal is $90 for smallish stuff..$150 for as much as you can take up to an hour for bigger stuff.. usually takes 4-12 treatments depending on several factors.

MOST removals are homemade stuff, ex's names, and poorly done tattoos.

$150 per hour is a lot of money to a lot of people; and 4-12 treatments!