TC Electronic RH450, RS210, RS212 Review Thread

[Eublet]

Cool video of "Dock" Murdock jamming through a huge TC bass rig.

I don't understand the purpose of all those cabs, other than providing a backdrop for the video. I don't see any mic's anywhere, so it's obviously just the DI on the primary head that's being tracked.

But it does showcase the tone of the head very well.

 

[KJung]

I don't understand the purpose of all those cabs, other than providing a backdrop for the video. I don't see any mic's anywhere, so it's obviously just the DI on the primary head that's being tracked.

But it does showcase the tone of the head very well.

+1 I assume just a marketing promo shot.

 

[Eublet]

+1 I assume just a marketing promo shot.

I didn't see their pants flapping. What's up with that?

 

[John Wentzien]

I didn't see their pants flapping. What's up with that?

That rig would make more than your pants flap!

 

[DonovanBankhead]

Wow! That was cool! Anyone know what the "drummer" was playing?

 

[John Wentzien]

Wow! That was cool! Anyone know what the "drummer" was playing?

Kinda like Future-man- Mini-Me...

 

[Eublet]

That rig would make more than your pants flap!

No doubt. I played around with an rh450 on top of an rs212/rs210/rs210 stack for about an hour, and it was just overkill. I'm thinking of ordering a 2nd rs210 to have that as an option, but mostly so I can gig with dual 210's as opposed to the 212/210 combo.

 

[jokerjkny]

Wow! That was cool! Anyone know what the "drummer" was playing?

korg nanopad into what looks like BFD.

 

[MIJ-VI]

A question:

Would it not be better to use two RS212's and cut the bass a bit to achieve more mid punch than to have to boost the lows on two RS210's to get more bottom?

 

[Eublet]

A question:

Would it not be better to use two RS212's and cut the bass a bit to achieve more mid punch than to have to boost the lows on two RS210's to get more bottom?

No, typically this doesn't work as well as one might think. The 12's have a bit more "woofiness" in them that you can't just dial out. Of course, every driver is different. It's really not that that the rs212 isn't punchy as much as it is that they don't have as much of that throaty growl that the 10's do. And it's also not that the 210 isn't deep sounding.

 

[John Wentzien]

I look at it this way.

My stage amp is a monitor..and I need it to sound good on-stage.
I see it as a MINI-PA system..
This rig really acts like that.
On a PA you have subs and Tops....usually stacked vertically.

With the combination of both cabs I can hear the RS210 right in my ear and also get some "bell-bottom-osity" from the rs212.

This combo really fills the room, as well as the stage, in a way I've never heard before in over 35 years of playing.

It sounds good up-close and far-away.

I always had to stand to the side of my Ampeg to hear it on stage and still have a decent sound out in the hall.

This set-up is "FOR REAL" folks!


The DI sounds better than any I have used.

 

[Eublet]

With the combination of both cabs I can hear the RS210 right in my ear and also get some "bell-bottom-osity" from the rs212.

I agree, but it seems to depend on the venue. I played a big stage tonight and the 212/210 stack was perfect. There was lots of space behind the cabinet, and it just killed. In smaller areas where I'm closer to the wall, the extra depth (physically) of the 212 as well as the extra low end is a bit much, and a dual 210 stack would seem to work better and have a smaller footprint.

This combo really fills the room, as well as the stage, in a way I've never heard before in over 35 years of playing.

It sounds good up-close and far-away.

I always had to stand to the side of my Ampeg to hear it on stage and still have a decent sound out in the hall.

This set-up is "FOR REAL" folks!

If you come from Ampeg, I can certainly appreciate that. I never really met an Ampeg stack that I liked for anything other than loud, muddy rock music. It does what it does well, but other than that I hate it. I've been telling people that the TC rig does the Ampeg thing VERY well, but at the same time I hope I'm not conveying that it has a muddy, inconsistent project like those old fridges. I've used several different vertical stacks, so the TC is not the first to me. They ALL had great, even projection and provided the ability to hear the notes. So for me, there is nothing new here from TC. I do like the cabs very much, except for the finish. But honestly the cabs are just cabs to me. All the magic is in that little head. It's just wonderful!

The DI sounds better than any I have used.

I agree with this also, and I've used some good ones. It's warm and clean if you put it in pre-EQ, which many heads are as well. What really impresses me is the sound you get through the DI in POST-EQ. It doesn't hiss or suddenly get boomy. Even if you crank the tubesim, it stays nice and quiet unlike some other hybrid heads I've had that got really noisey if you tried to run post-EQ to get some tube grit in the DI.

The rh450 really shines in every single way. I've yet to find any huge flaws with the head. I have, on occasion, pressed the EQ preset when I meant to press shift, and lost whatever tone I had dialed in. Usually it's my own fault for getting in a hurry and not paying attention to what I'm doing, so I'm getting better at that. But when it happens, I wind up wishing there was a "back" button of some sort.

The funny thing is, I thought I would wind up putting in three different presets and never changing them. But it seems like I'm finding new sounds all the time, many of them during pre-gig setup, and I wind up storing them for the gig. Lots of fun if you're into that. If not, the Classic 450 looks to be great!

 

[jdwinva]

Has anyone tried the RH450 into a full range efficient cab like the Bergantino HS410 ?

I bet that would be a killer rig.

 

[KJung]

Has anyone tried the RH450 into a full range efficient cab like the Bergantino HS410 ?

I bet that would be a killer rig.

I'll be giving a similar combination (RH450/AE410) a good tryout later this week. My RH450 should arrive Tuesday or Wednesday.

 

[Eublet]

Has anyone tried the RH450 into a full range efficient cab like the Bergantino HS410 ?

I bet that would be a killer rig.

I used mine through a Genz Benz Neox 212 which fits your description, and it sounded excellent.

 

[clarksouter]

I have a RC4 footswitch that is new in the box for the RH450 and will sell it for $100 I am a test pilot (for the RH450) and use A bass pod with it and so do not need the Foot switch.


Cheers


Clark-

 

[DonovanBankhead]

Just played a gig last night with my FBass, RH450 and this time, just the RS212. Sounded nice and full - but I missed the snap and articulation from the RS210 - probably mainly because it's easier to hear the vertical stack...

Oh, and eublet mentioned he feels the cabs are just cabs, but my experience says otherwise. These cabs seem to have much more projection than other cabs I've used - especially the Genz Benz Shuttle cabs...

 

[Eublet]

Oh, and eublet mentioned he feels the cabs are just cabs, but my experience says otherwise. These cabs seem to have much more projection than other cabs I've used - especially the Genz Benz Shuttle cabs...

I don't mean to sound like they aren't nice. They are VERY nice. I'm just not sure that I would go out and buy these cabs to use with anything else. But they look cool and stack symmetrically with the rh450 on top. They do project well, and have a nice even dispersion.

 

[jdwinva]

It sounds like the only "con" to the RH450 is it may be a little power shy? Are the folks that had this issue 1) using a 4 ohm cabinet setup 2) using the EQ correctly 3) not squashing the signal to death with the compressor?

 

[Eublet]

It sounds like the on "con" to the RH450 is it may be a little power shy? Are the folks that had this issue 1) using a 4 ohm cabinet setup 2) using the EQ correctly 3) not squashing the signal to death with the compressor?

I've not heard anyone say that. It seems to be a very honest 450 watts to me.