Ugh, I was drooling over the Sub 'n Up until I saw your comments and realized that I currently have a T. Rex Quint Machine, an EHX Pitch Fork, and a Mooer Tender Octaver already. That is kind of crazy, especially since I'm really only using the Mooer.I think you misunderstood. What's "crazy" is thinking it's silly to have 3 or more octave devices. That's simply not thinking clearly.